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3561
24 Jul 2022, 8:39 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:28 pm)Tiger5105 Well 6351 has been missing in action for approx 3 weeks and numerically, would fit for X10. Who knows.
I doubt it. Consett have a Euro 6 PVR of 19x (45/X30/X31/X45/X71/X72). So with 13x of the 14x out of 6338-51 in service, that leaves 1x spare. And on top of that, 6336-37 will also be needed to ensure a suitable spare ratio to cover a PVR of 19x.
L469 YVK
24 Jul 2022, 8:39 pm #1541

(24 Jul 2022, 8:28 pm)Tiger5105 Well 6351 has been missing in action for approx 3 weeks and numerically, would fit for X10. Who knows.
I doubt it. Consett have a Euro 6 PVR of 19x (45/X30/X31/X45/X71/X72). So with 13x of the 14x out of 6338-51 in service, that leaves 1x spare. And on top of that, 6336-37 will also be needed to ensure a suitable spare ratio to cover a PVR of 19x.

24 Jul 2022, 8:43 pm
Has anyone been lucky enough to ride a changed service today?

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ASX_Terranova
24 Jul 2022, 8:43 pm #1542

Has anyone been lucky enough to ride a changed service today?


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3561
24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm
Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?
L469 YVK
24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm #1543

Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?

24 Jul 2022, 8:48 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:43 pm)ASX_Terranova Has anyone been lucky enough to ride a changed service today?

I don't think 'lucky' is the word, for those who have tried to use the 4 today!

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Adrian
24 Jul 2022, 8:48 pm #1544

(24 Jul 2022, 8:43 pm)ASX_Terranova Has anyone been lucky enough to ride a changed service today?

I don't think 'lucky' is the word, for those who have tried to use the 4 today!


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1525
24 Jul 2022, 8:49 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm)L469 YVK Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?

I’ve said this already, if they’ve any sense any repaints will be into either Corporate or  generic Xlines so they can easily move vehicles around.
ne14ne1
24 Jul 2022, 8:49 pm #1545

(24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm)L469 YVK Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?

I’ve said this already, if they’ve any sense any repaints will be into either Corporate or  generic Xlines so they can easily move vehicles around.

3570
24 Jul 2022, 8:50 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm)L469 YVK Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?
Pinks need de-branding

Streetdecks need de-branding

Graphites need branding up

Purples need de-branding

Blone need de-branding

Voilets need a decal update
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 8:50 pm #1546

(24 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm)L469 YVK Interesting point here but, if any repaints happen, will they just be corporate or generic XLines to save costs going forward?
Pinks need de-branding

Streetdecks need de-branding

Graphites need branding up

Purples need de-branding

Blone need de-branding

Voilets need a decal update

903
24 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 2:22 pm)Unber43 Deptford working pattern is just....crazy

Look at the 61A/5A/35A/9/24/26 they all interwork
How can a 61a change to a 5a when it doesn’t come to Sunderland
Acky81
24 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm #1547

(24 Jul 2022, 2:22 pm)Unber43 Deptford working pattern is just....crazy

Look at the 61A/5A/35A/9/24/26 they all interwork
How can a 61a change to a 5a when it doesn’t come to Sunderland

3570
24 Jul 2022, 8:57 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm)Acky81 How can a 61a change to a 5a when it doesn’t come to Sunderland
It wasn't the order they interwork it, but all those services do interwork on atleast 1 bus during the Sunday scheduling to say it is a right mess is an understatment.


It also seems like there are no citaros in operation on a Sunday
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 8:57 pm #1548

(24 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm)Acky81 How can a 61a change to a 5a when it doesn’t come to Sunderland
It wasn't the order they interwork it, but all those services do interwork on atleast 1 bus during the Sunday scheduling to say it is a right mess is an understatment.


It also seems like there are no citaros in operation on a Sunday

903
24 Jul 2022, 9:06 pm
Absolute joke branding means nothing
Acky81
24 Jul 2022, 9:06 pm #1549

Absolute joke branding means nothing

3570
24 Jul 2022, 9:09 pm
Deptford interworking at Sunderland is just a utter mess, except the 56 & 60 (daytime).
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 9:09 pm #1550

Deptford interworking at Sunderland is just a utter mess, except the 56 & 60 (daytime).

903
24 Jul 2022, 9:16 pm
Shambles
Acky81
24 Jul 2022, 9:16 pm #1551

Shambles

14269
24 Jul 2022, 9:18 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 8:24 pm)MurdnunoC On loan from the commercial team perhaps?

Testing out new routes to assess commercial viability?
Nah, that sort of route is too adventurous and different for them.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Jul 2022, 9:18 pm #1552

(24 Jul 2022, 8:24 pm)MurdnunoC On loan from the commercial team perhaps?

Testing out new routes to assess commercial viability?
Nah, that sort of route is too adventurous and different for them.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

4677
24 Jul 2022, 9:22 pm
Not sure what's exactly wrong with having interworking patterns that actually work.

Personally I'd rather have a bus on time than a correct allocated bus. The day branded buses die and they start regulating buses by just swapping everything over like Arriva do at Haymarket, Blyth and Durham with a bus on standby to drop in rather than turning things around short needs to come. It's a hell of a lot better system imo and would easily work somewhere like Park Lane.

Not sure if it happens at Darlington or Middlesbrough, anyone know?
Storx
24 Jul 2022, 9:22 pm #1553

Not sure what's exactly wrong with having interworking patterns that actually work.

Personally I'd rather have a bus on time than a correct allocated bus. The day branded buses die and they start regulating buses by just swapping everything over like Arriva do at Haymarket, Blyth and Durham with a bus on standby to drop in rather than turning things around short needs to come. It's a hell of a lot better system imo and would easily work somewhere like Park Lane.

Not sure if it happens at Darlington or Middlesbrough, anyone know?

24 Jul 2022, 10:11 pm
I'm curious as to why the 20 needed to be split in two, as the replacement 24 appears to interwork with every route they could tag onto it. Surely this only increases the chances of delays and cancellations over more routes?
omnicity4659
24 Jul 2022, 10:11 pm #1554

I'm curious as to why the 20 needed to be split in two, as the replacement 24 appears to interwork with every route they could tag onto it. Surely this only increases the chances of delays and cancellations over more routes?

3570
24 Jul 2022, 10:19 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:11 pm)omnicity4659 I'm curious as to why the 20 needed to be split in two, as the replacement 24 appears to interwork with every route they could tag onto it. Surely this only increases the chances of delays and cancellations over more routes?
Its just a Sunday, but yeah they split the 20 & 24 to stop this, and there was on 35/24/9 which basically ran 15 mins late all day
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 10:19 pm #1555

(24 Jul 2022, 10:11 pm)omnicity4659 I'm curious as to why the 20 needed to be split in two, as the replacement 24 appears to interwork with every route they could tag onto it. Surely this only increases the chances of delays and cancellations over more routes?
Its just a Sunday, but yeah they split the 20 & 24 to stop this, and there was on 35/24/9 which basically ran 15 mins late all day

24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:19 pm)Unber43 Its just a Sunday, but yeah they split the 20 & 24 to stop this, and there was on 35/24/9 which basically ran 15 mins late all day

Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.
omnicity4659
24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm #1556

(24 Jul 2022, 10:19 pm)Unber43 Its just a Sunday, but yeah they split the 20 & 24 to stop this, and there was on 35/24/9 which basically ran 15 mins late all day

Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.

3570
24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm)omnicity4659 Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.
It interworkes with the 

35/5/5A/9/24/26/60/20 throughout the day
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm #1557

(24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm)omnicity4659 Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.
It interworkes with the 

35/5/5A/9/24/26/60/20 throughout the day

4677
24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm)omnicity4659 Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.

tbh not sure it was done for reliability reasons. Think it was more so they could upgrade the 50 to Deckers and pull the 26 out. There wasn't anyway of doing it under the old 5/9/26 combination without changeovers outside of Sunderland and having Streetdeck's on the 26 was a waste.
Storx
24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm #1558

(24 Jul 2022, 10:51 pm)omnicity4659 Remember that it still interworks with other routes on South Tyneside on other days, it'll be interesting to see how reliable the services will be.

tbh not sure it was done for reliability reasons. Think it was more so they could upgrade the 50 to Deckers and pull the 26 out. There wasn't anyway of doing it under the old 5/9/26 combination without changeovers outside of Sunderland and having Streetdeck's on the 26 was a waste.

3570
24 Jul 2022, 10:57 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm)Storx tbh not sure it was done for reliability reasons. Think it was more so they could upgrade the 50 to Deckers and pull the 26 out. There wasn't anyway of doing it under the old 5/9/26 combination without changeovers outside of Sunderland.
Pretty sure the 9 has like a 15-20 minute layover in Sunderland. So reliability shouldn't be a massive issue. 

24 has around 5-10 min layover in Sunderland.
Unber43
24 Jul 2022, 10:57 pm #1559

(24 Jul 2022, 10:53 pm)Storx tbh not sure it was done for reliability reasons. Think it was more so they could upgrade the 50 to Deckers and pull the 26 out. There wasn't anyway of doing it under the old 5/9/26 combination without changeovers outside of Sunderland.
Pretty sure the 9 has like a 15-20 minute layover in Sunderland. So reliability shouldn't be a massive issue. 

24 has around 5-10 min layover in Sunderland.

913
24 Jul 2022, 10:59 pm
(24 Jul 2022, 10:57 pm)Unber43 Pretty sure the 9 has like a 15-20 minute layover in Sunderland. So reliability shouldn't be a massive issue. 

24 has around 5-10 min layover in Sunderland.
It's been reduced to 12 minutes.
F114TML
24 Jul 2022, 10:59 pm #1560

(24 Jul 2022, 10:57 pm)Unber43 Pretty sure the 9 has like a 15-20 minute layover in Sunderland. So reliability shouldn't be a massive issue. 

24 has around 5-10 min layover in Sunderland.
It's been reduced to 12 minutes.

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