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omnicity4659   16 May 2019, 3:52 pm
(16 May 2019, 1:11 pm)Dan wrote Agree!


They'll be disabled in the short-term, but longer-term will have the announcements re-enabled for the Coaster 1, 1A and 1B. I think the announcements on the refurbished Volvo B9 have been disabled on the 309/310 already, so shouldn't show the Cobalt Clipper brand name anymore.

The Little Coasters won't have Next Stop Announcements anymore (as the Solos which have the announcements are being moved across to different routes).

Seems to be a lot of disabling of what are essentially journey assistance aids, surely everything should be set up already to provide a seamless transition? If I was deaf or blind, I couldn't care less what the brand of the bus was!
N1cholas   16 May 2019, 4:04 pm
If the versa's do go on the 238 i wonder if they have taken one around north lea in seaham to test it out, it is tight enough with a solo at times, i wonder if all these vehicle movements happen this weekend and if they are it could see the end of deptfords scaina's at the same time
JP6004   16 May 2019, 4:09 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:04 pm)N1cholas wrote If the versa's do go on the 238 i wonder if they have taken one around north lea in seaham to test it out, it is tight enough with a solo at times, i wonder if all these vehicle movements happen this weekend and if they are it could see the end of deptfords scaina's at the same time

It's been confirmed a few L94s will be withdrawn this weekend, then a big chunk when new buses arrive in few months. Suppose pointless putting L94 picture on if they wont be here long
ne14ne1   16 May 2019, 4:25 pm
(16 May 2019, 3:52 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Seems to be a lot of disabling of what are essentially journey assistance aids, surely everything should be set up already to provide a seamless transition? If I was deaf or blind, I couldn't care less what the brand of the bus was!

I was thinking the very same.
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Dan   16 May 2019, 4:31 pm
(16 May 2019, 3:52 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Seems to be a lot of disabling of what are essentially journey assistance aids, surely everything should be set up already to provide a seamless transition? If I was deaf or blind, I couldn't care less what the brand of the bus was!

(16 May 2019, 4:25 pm)ne14ne1 wrote I was thinking the very same.

If I was deaf or blind, I'd hope that an audio/visual aid wouldn't be incorrect, which of course is the alternative if everything cannot be set up in time. Arriva North East tend to go for that option I have found, which I personally don't think is the best option for passengers who are visually impaired.

It is of course just a temporary solution... With over 50 buses transferring between depots this weekend, via points making a return to the destination displays, as well as timetables making a comeback (and lots of other things going on too), I'm sure you'll appreciate something has to give. Dodgy
BusLoverMum   16 May 2019, 4:31 pm
(16 May 2019, 8:32 am)Dan wrote Really... We're talking here as if North Shields is a million miles away from Tynemouth. The outlying suburbs I'd agree aren't coastal but the town centre is just a stone's throw away from the likes of Tynemouth which is strongly associated with the coast. Huh

Suppose Stagecoach will have to do away with the 'Seasider' open-top brand, as North Shields Ferry Landing isn't at the seaside, just a river...

Quite. It's an easy walk from tynemouth to North Shields and can be done without ever losing sight of waterm
Adrian   16 May 2019, 4:38 pm
I was never a fan of the Coast & Country brand, for the reason it doesn't go to a coast. But in this instance I do think it makes sense, as the 'Little Coasters' brand is complimenting the 'Coaster' brand, as almost a branding family. Not everything has to be black or white.

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omnicity4659   16 May 2019, 4:38 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:31 pm)Dan wrote If I was deaf or blind, I'd hope that an audio/visual aid wouldn't be incorrect, which of course is the alternative if everything cannot be set up in time. Arriva North East tend to go for that option I have found, which I personally don't think is the best option for passengers who are visually impaired.

It is of course just a temporary solution... With over 50 buses transferring between depots this weekend, as well as timetables making a return and lots of other things going on, I'm sure you'll appreciate something has to give. Dodgy

But this isn't the first time this has happened though, the Tyne Valley Ten also had the equipment disabled for a very long time.

As for the buses transferring between depots, timetables and various other things, there's multiple people involved, including external agencies, I don't see how this can affect a sole person?

I'm involved in updating a lot of AV equipment across the country and I haven't had to have the equipment turned off during a transition...
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Michael   16 May 2019, 4:44 pm
(16 May 2019, 3:29 pm)JP6004 wrote Just been looking at new timetables on GNE website that may give a few hints to brands/allocations.....

55/55A have corporate citaro
13/14/25/35/X22 have corporate omnicity
71 corporate versa
33 corporate solo

A lot of corporate omnicities......

35 shows corporate Omnicity

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JP6004   16 May 2019, 4:47 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:44 pm)Michael wrote 35 shows corporate Omnicity

Well done for reading lmao
Dan   16 May 2019, 4:52 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:38 pm)omnicity4659 wrote But this isn't the first time this has happened though, the Tyne Valley Ten also had the equipment disabled for a very long time.

As for the buses transferring between depots, timetables and various other things, there's multiple people involved, including external agencies, I don't see how this can affect a sole person?

I'm involved in updating a lot of AV equipment across the country and I haven't had to have the equipment turned off during a transition...

You must have more time than most people who work in the bus industry - perhaps you should help Arriva and Go North East out with their A/V systems?!  Big Grin
Michael   16 May 2019, 4:56 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:47 pm)JP6004 wrote Well done for reading lmao

Totally missed it, long day at work... 

Undecided

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JP6004   16 May 2019, 5:04 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:56 pm)Michael wrote Totally missed it, long day at work... 

Undecided

Awww nice relaxing day in sun here  Big Grin
Michael   16 May 2019, 5:06 pm
(16 May 2019, 5:04 pm)JP6004 wrote Awww nice relaxing day in sun here  Big Grin

Been outside most of the day, so not bad Tongue


Glad we are finally get Omnicities at Deptford though.

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JM03   16 May 2019, 6:13 pm
(16 May 2019, 3:29 pm)JP6004 wrote Just been looking at new timetables on GNE website that may give a few hints to brands/allocations.....

55/55A have corporate citaro
13/14/25/35/X22 have corporate omnicity
71 corporate versa
33 corporate solo

A lot of corporate omnicities......
Little coasters are for 11, so whats replacing the solos on indigo when leaving
L469 YVK   16 May 2019, 6:15 pm
(16 May 2019, 8:18 am)Arcticrossy92 wrote [quote="Tom" pid='229262' dateline='1557952565']

Yeah, new PVR will be 16 though

 
Maybe the 3 Enviro 400's are to join the coaster?

E400s going on a route with a PVR of 3x. That'll either be the 15/15A, X30 or 327.
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Michael   16 May 2019, 6:18 pm
(16 May 2019, 10:22 am)Kuyoyo wrote And as a result, we have our first look at ‘Little Coasters’

I really like that.

(16 May 2019, 6:15 pm)L469 YVK wrote E400s going on a route with a PVR of 3x. That'll either be the 15/15A, X30 or 327.

I think the X30... is there definitely only 3 been ordered?

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S813 FVK   16 May 2019, 6:19 pm
(16 May 2019, 6:13 pm)JM03 wrote Little coasters are for 11, so whats replacing the solos on indigo when leaving

Little Coasters also includes the current indiGo routes.
Michael   16 May 2019, 6:26 pm
I would imagine the 35 is getting the Omnicities from the 11 this weekend, well all 12? 

But i thought the Scania's couldn't go until June?

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ne14ne1   16 May 2019, 6:47 pm
(16 May 2019, 4:31 pm)Dan wrote If I was deaf or blind, I'd hope that an audio/visual aid wouldn't be incorrect, which of course is the alternative if everything cannot be set up in time. Arriva North East tend to go for that option I have found, which I personally don't think is the best option for passengers who are visually impaired.

It is of course just a temporary solution... With over 50 buses transferring between depots this weekend, via points making a return to the destination displays, as well as timetables making a comeback (and lots of other things going on too), I'm sure you'll appreciate something has to give. Dodgy

Appreciate theres a lot going on, but does the Cobalt & Coast need its NSAs disabled just because they say Cobalt Clipper, even though several of the fleet are still branded as Cobalt Clippers?



While the Angel21 is having its NSA's updated to say St Mary's Place(?) instead of Blackett St, could Newgate Street-Wilkinsons not be changed to Newgate Street-Maldron Hotel?  Wink I've always also wondered why the following stop has been named High Level Bridge North, instead of something like Saint Nicholas Street - Castle Keep  Huh
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Dan   16 May 2019, 6:49 pm
(16 May 2019, 6:47 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Appreciate theres a lot going on, but does the Cobalt & Coast need its NSAs disabled just because they say Cobalt Clipper, even though several of the fleet are still branded as Cobalt Clippers?

While the Angel21 is having its NSA's updated to say St Mary's Place(?) instead of Blackett St, could Newgate Street-Wilkinsons not be changed to Newgate Street-Maldron Hotel?  Wink I've always also wondered why the following stop has been named High Level Bridge North, instead of something like Saint Nicholas Street - Castle Keep  Huh

The new announcements on the refurbished Volvo B9 have not been tested yet and several audio recordings are missing - they weren't intended to be live in the first place.
Stanleyone   16 May 2019, 6:57 pm
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(16 May 2019, 6:18 pm)Michael wrote I really like that.


I think the X30... is there definitely only 3 been ordered?

Yep only 3 ordered, never know if they prove their worth on the route they are going on and the E200s on whatever route they are for, we might see more of these types in future orders.
V514DFT   16 May 2019, 8:06 pm
I would of called it Coaster Connect,but either way im greatful to see the back of indigo over here,glad to see GNE are still giving routes a bit of character

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BeachBoy99   16 May 2019, 8:21 pm
Woah just seen the new timetable design and it's absolutely amazing! I think I take back my remark from yesterday Big Grin
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Mark1   16 May 2019, 8:47 pm
What different route will the new 20A from Durham take compared to the 20?
Michael   16 May 2019, 8:54 pm
(16 May 2019, 8:47 pm)Mark1 wrote What different route will the new 20A from Durham take compared to the 20?

20A is getting withdrawn

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Mark1   16 May 2019, 9:52 pm
(16 May 2019, 8:54 pm)Michael wrote 20A is getting withdrawn

On the new timetable there's 2 departures from Durham on an evening.
Michael   16 May 2019, 9:58 pm
(16 May 2019, 9:52 pm)Mark1 wrote On the new timetable there's 2 departures from Durham on an evening.

A mistake maybe?

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streetdeckfan   16 May 2019, 10:30 pm
(16 May 2019, 8:21 pm)BeachBoy99 wrote Woah just seen the new timetable design and it's absolutely amazing! I think I take back my remark from yesterday Big Grin

I like how it is basically the old timetable but just looks a whole lot more modern
The best part is everything is vector based now so no matter how far you zoom in everything is clear, including the livery. Time to have some fun in Photoshop!
JP6004   16 May 2019, 10:34 pm
(16 May 2019, 10:30 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I like how it is basically the old timetable but just looks a whole lot more modern
The best part is everything is vector based now so no matter how far you zoom in everything is clear, including the livery. Time to have some fun in Photoshop!

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