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Arriva North East: Rare & Odd Workings - September 2015

 
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11 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm #141
(11 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm)buss14 7518 is actually on a sapphire route today

X22 left Ashington 1520
omnicity4659
11 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm #141

(11 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm)buss14 7518 is actually on a sapphire route today

X22 left Ashington 1520

mb134



4,152
11 Sep 2015, 3:38 pm #142
(11 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm)GX03 SVC X22 left Ashington 1520

Been on there since this morning, through Bedlington as an X21 to Newcastle around 8 iirc.
mb134
11 Sep 2015, 3:38 pm #142

(11 Sep 2015, 2:58 pm)GX03 SVC X22 left Ashington 1520

Been on there since this morning, through Bedlington as an X21 to Newcastle around 8 iirc.

11 Sep 2015, 3:53 pm #143
7492 on X14
NK53 TKT
11 Sep 2015, 3:53 pm #143

7492 on X14

L469 YVK



3,554
11 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm #144
Arriva seriously need to invest more money into their MAX and Sapphire routes if they want them to work. OK, perhaps the 57 plates have been performing better since Ecnospeed was removed but, the whole allocations across the North East look very scrappy from the 57 plate Sapphires to constant off route vehicles to even some routes (X7, X8, X12) even using single deckers for some runs that require double deckers and allocating Ex London refurbished buses to the X20 is not going to do a service with potential any favors. Arriva need to do the following:

- Order new buses for the key MAX and Sapphire routes to allow cascades to take place.
- Amend all timetables to ensure that services are running as close to time as possible.
- NO refurbished Ex London deckers for main workings (bar peak time extras), all buses used should be to a good standard!
- NO more first buses of the morning sneaking out of Blyth depot late and starting to get into problems around Newsham area etc.
- Adequate spare vehicles to ensure consistency and prevent brand dilution.
- Tighter controls on odd workings to ensure that these are rectified as soon as possible and kept to a minimum.
- NO drivers plodding along against favorable road and traffic conditions. All drivers to drive to the road and traffic conditions in a legal and safer manner whilst keeping the service as close to time as possible.
L469 YVK
11 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm #144

Arriva seriously need to invest more money into their MAX and Sapphire routes if they want them to work. OK, perhaps the 57 plates have been performing better since Ecnospeed was removed but, the whole allocations across the North East look very scrappy from the 57 plate Sapphires to constant off route vehicles to even some routes (X7, X8, X12) even using single deckers for some runs that require double deckers and allocating Ex London refurbished buses to the X20 is not going to do a service with potential any favors. Arriva need to do the following:

- Order new buses for the key MAX and Sapphire routes to allow cascades to take place.
- Amend all timetables to ensure that services are running as close to time as possible.
- NO refurbished Ex London deckers for main workings (bar peak time extras), all buses used should be to a good standard!
- NO more first buses of the morning sneaking out of Blyth depot late and starting to get into problems around Newsham area etc.
- Adequate spare vehicles to ensure consistency and prevent brand dilution.
- Tighter controls on odd workings to ensure that these are rectified as soon as possible and kept to a minimum.
- NO drivers plodding along against favorable road and traffic conditions. All drivers to drive to the road and traffic conditions in a legal and safer manner whilst keeping the service as close to time as possible.

11 Sep 2015, 4:56 pm #145
So, Davey, if I go to the office tomorrow and ask how many Sapphire deckers were off for PSV checks or general repairs what would the answer be...?

7518, 7514 and 7468 were on the Sapphires today. Does that not suggest a shortage of vehicles from this morning?

As per usual it's about cost. Yes, Blyth depot is receiving new-ish and refurbished Max vehicles for all routes, with rumours about new midibuses next year.

Ashington has received cast-offs from London to rid of step-entrance vehicles. The B7s that are coming should be in good nick and hopefully Ashington take care of them, just like their counterparts in Newcastle.

Yes Arriva should do some of the above, but why would they want to spend £££ of their shareholders money rectifying faults that cause no problem to the shareholders???
omnicity4659
11 Sep 2015, 4:56 pm #145

So, Davey, if I go to the office tomorrow and ask how many Sapphire deckers were off for PSV checks or general repairs what would the answer be...?

7518, 7514 and 7468 were on the Sapphires today. Does that not suggest a shortage of vehicles from this morning?

As per usual it's about cost. Yes, Blyth depot is receiving new-ish and refurbished Max vehicles for all routes, with rumours about new midibuses next year.

Ashington has received cast-offs from London to rid of step-entrance vehicles. The B7s that are coming should be in good nick and hopefully Ashington take care of them, just like their counterparts in Newcastle.

Yes Arriva should do some of the above, but why would they want to spend £££ of their shareholders money rectifying faults that cause no problem to the shareholders???

11 Sep 2015, 5:43 pm #146
I was in Alnwick bus station at 10am today. There was:
-An X14 Omnicity on the X15 to Berwick.
-An X18 E400 on the X15 to Newcastle.
-A sapphire X21/22 E400 on the X18 to Newcastle.
-An X18 E400 on the X18 to Berwick(!)
passenger_10
11 Sep 2015, 5:43 pm #146

I was in Alnwick bus station at 10am today. There was:
-An X14 Omnicity on the X15 to Berwick.
-An X18 E400 on the X15 to Newcastle.
-A sapphire X21/22 E400 on the X18 to Newcastle.
-An X18 E400 on the X18 to Berwick(!)

11 Sep 2015, 5:46 pm #147
(11 Sep 2015, 5:43 pm)passenger_10 I was in Alnwick bus station at 10am today. There was:
-An X14 Omnicity on the X15 to Berwick.
-An X18 E400 on the X15 to Newcastle.
-A sapphire X21/22 E400 on the X18 to Newcastle.
-An X18 E400 on the X18 to Berwick(!)


Maybes 7514 was being kept local hence a Sapphire decker on the X18. Everything else is to keep the core MAX routes MAX-ish..? 

There were quite a few vehicles in the depot that I could see from Asda in the morning...
omnicity4659
11 Sep 2015, 5:46 pm #147

(11 Sep 2015, 5:43 pm)passenger_10 I was in Alnwick bus station at 10am today. There was:
-An X14 Omnicity on the X15 to Berwick.
-An X18 E400 on the X15 to Newcastle.
-A sapphire X21/22 E400 on the X18 to Newcastle.
-An X18 E400 on the X18 to Berwick(!)


Maybes 7514 was being kept local hence a Sapphire decker on the X18. Everything else is to keep the core MAX routes MAX-ish..? 

There were quite a few vehicles in the depot that I could see from Asda in the morning...

Kuyoyo



6,854
11 Sep 2015, 8:00 pm #148
1915 made it 3 Cadets in 3 days on the 15
1472 on X12
1435 worked the 0950 X93 while the 1002 arrival was 4707. 4707 was then meant to replace 7402 on the 64/64a/22 but it refused to start, resulting in 4720 being brought to replace it. 4707 was still in Middlesbrough Bus Station at 1630 awaiting a tow
Kuyoyo
11 Sep 2015, 8:00 pm #148

1915 made it 3 Cadets in 3 days on the 15
1472 on X12
1435 worked the 0950 X93 while the 1002 arrival was 4707. 4707 was then meant to replace 7402 on the 64/64a/22 but it refused to start, resulting in 4720 being brought to replace it. 4707 was still in Middlesbrough Bus Station at 1630 awaiting a tow

BusLoverMum



5,285
11 Sep 2015, 10:31 pm #149
(11 Sep 2015, 8:59 am)John_R 7534 was on the working this morning.

Nice one.

His spot of the day was, apparently (I wasn't there) one of the NK61 CY_ (bad me forgot the last letter) Pulsars on the 22 which would have arrived in Durham about 3:30-ish.
BusLoverMum
11 Sep 2015, 10:31 pm #149

(11 Sep 2015, 8:59 am)John_R 7534 was on the working this morning.

Nice one.

His spot of the day was, apparently (I wasn't there) one of the NK61 CY_ (bad me forgot the last letter) Pulsars on the 22 which would have arrived in Durham about 3:30-ish.

Kuyoyo



6,854
12 Sep 2015, 8:19 am #150
1479 is on X12, 0935 from Middlesbrough
1469 on 17a
Kuyoyo
12 Sep 2015, 8:19 am #150

1479 is on X12, 0935 from Middlesbrough
1469 on 17a

DanPicken

Banned

2,177
12 Sep 2015, 9:59 am #151
2846 left about 5 mins ago on the X16.
DanPicken
12 Sep 2015, 9:59 am #151

2846 left about 5 mins ago on the X16.

Cock Robin



2,778
12 Sep 2015, 10:01 am #152
(11 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Arriva seriously need to invest more money into their MAX and Sapphire routes if they want them to work. OK, perhaps the 57 plates have been performing better since Ecnospeed was removed but, the whole allocations across the North East look very scrappy from the 57 plate Sapphires to constant off route vehicles to even some routes (X7, X8, X12) even using single deckers for some runs that require double deckers and allocating Ex London refurbished buses to the X20 is not going to do a service with potential any favors. Arriva need to do the following:

- Order new buses for the key MAX and Sapphire routes to allow cascades to take place.
- Amend all timetables to ensure that services are running as close to time as possible.
- NO refurbished Ex London deckers for main workings (bar peak time extras), all buses used should be to a good standard!
- NO more first buses of the morning sneaking out of Blyth depot late and starting to get into problems around Newsham area etc.
- Adequate spare vehicles to ensure consistency and prevent brand dilution.
- Tighter controls on odd workings to ensure that these are rectified as soon as possible and kept to a minimum.
- NO drivers plodding along against favorable road and traffic conditions. All drivers to drive to the road and traffic conditions in a legal and safer manner whilst keeping the service as close to time as possible.

They've had a problem with inadequate spare buses for years, but there seems to be favouritism towards certain depots. The minute the 81 PVR went down they took 4501 off Redcar, but Stockton still have several vehicles on the road which should have gone into Reserve/Disposal. No wonder they always seem to have a line of spare buses in the depot whereas Redcar rarely have any.
Cock Robin
12 Sep 2015, 10:01 am #152

(11 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm)DaveyBowyer Arriva seriously need to invest more money into their MAX and Sapphire routes if they want them to work. OK, perhaps the 57 plates have been performing better since Ecnospeed was removed but, the whole allocations across the North East look very scrappy from the 57 plate Sapphires to constant off route vehicles to even some routes (X7, X8, X12) even using single deckers for some runs that require double deckers and allocating Ex London refurbished buses to the X20 is not going to do a service with potential any favors. Arriva need to do the following:

- Order new buses for the key MAX and Sapphire routes to allow cascades to take place.
- Amend all timetables to ensure that services are running as close to time as possible.
- NO refurbished Ex London deckers for main workings (bar peak time extras), all buses used should be to a good standard!
- NO more first buses of the morning sneaking out of Blyth depot late and starting to get into problems around Newsham area etc.
- Adequate spare vehicles to ensure consistency and prevent brand dilution.
- Tighter controls on odd workings to ensure that these are rectified as soon as possible and kept to a minimum.
- NO drivers plodding along against favorable road and traffic conditions. All drivers to drive to the road and traffic conditions in a legal and safer manner whilst keeping the service as close to time as possible.

They've had a problem with inadequate spare buses for years, but there seems to be favouritism towards certain depots. The minute the 81 PVR went down they took 4501 off Redcar, but Stockton still have several vehicles on the road which should have gone into Reserve/Disposal. No wonder they always seem to have a line of spare buses in the depot whereas Redcar rarely have any.

DanPicken

Banned

2,177
12 Sep 2015, 11:07 am #153
2834 on 43.
DanPicken
12 Sep 2015, 11:07 am #153

2834 on 43.

Tom



6,138
12 Sep 2015, 1:01 pm #154
X reg dart on X9.
Tom
12 Sep 2015, 1:01 pm #154

X reg dart on X9.

12 Sep 2015, 1:14 pm #155
7518 on X14
NK53 TKT
12 Sep 2015, 1:14 pm #155

7518 on X14

Jimmi



10,971
12 Sep 2015, 2:14 pm #156
CX05 registered MAX Omnicity on 1/5/5A/19.
Jimmi
12 Sep 2015, 2:14 pm #156

CX05 registered MAX Omnicity on 1/5/5A/19.

12 Sep 2015, 2:36 pm #157
1305 was on X9

JMoss
jaimzm
12 Sep 2015, 2:36 pm #157

1305 was on X9


JMoss

Cock Robin



2,778
12 Sep 2015, 3:03 pm #158
Not that unusual individually but all of 1101, 1303, 4507 and 4513 were on the 63 by 10am today!
Cock Robin
12 Sep 2015, 3:03 pm #158

Not that unusual individually but all of 1101, 1303, 4507 and 4513 were on the 63 by 10am today!

BusLoverMum



5,285
12 Sep 2015, 3:07 pm #159
Spare sapphire 1517 on the 46
BusLoverMum
12 Sep 2015, 3:07 pm #159

Spare sapphire 1517 on the 46

Kuyoyo



6,854
12 Sep 2015, 3:49 pm #160
1510 on X66
1915 on 7
Kuyoyo
12 Sep 2015, 3:49 pm #160

1510 on X66
1915 on 7

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