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DanPicken
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24 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 7:04 am)Michael Me to, better than the MPD's.

Changes for the M1 should be posted in the next few weeks - changes are planned (by VOSA) on the 20.10.13 (as someone kindly re-posted it from VOSA =D, (saves me going back)

I think GNE will want to let people know about the change early since its a new brand and a new number. - Alot of confused OAP's!


We have so many new buses coming and fleet changes... its gonna be a good year and start of a new year.


Looking forward to seen the new Waggonway Brand on the Scania's soon


Noted a mistake on the new 13/14 timetable - Langley Park Stringer Terrace
1801,1830,1902,2002,2102,2202,2304,2400

Can you spot it?

2400 should be 0000
DanPicken
24 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm #601

(24 Sep 2013, 7:04 am)Michael Me to, better than the MPD's.

Changes for the M1 should be posted in the next few weeks - changes are planned (by VOSA) on the 20.10.13 (as someone kindly re-posted it from VOSA =D, (saves me going back)

I think GNE will want to let people know about the change early since its a new brand and a new number. - Alot of confused OAP's!


We have so many new buses coming and fleet changes... its gonna be a good year and start of a new year.


Looking forward to seen the new Waggonway Brand on the Scania's soon


Noted a mistake on the new 13/14 timetable - Langley Park Stringer Terrace
1801,1830,1902,2002,2102,2202,2304,2400

Can you spot it?

2400 should be 0000

gtom
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24 Sep 2013, 7:16 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm)danpick 2400 should be 0000

It's not wrong in the sense though. 24:00 is a perfectly acceptable way of replacing 0:00
gtom
24 Sep 2013, 7:16 pm #602

(24 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm)danpick 2400 should be 0000

It's not wrong in the sense though. 24:00 is a perfectly acceptable way of replacing 0:00

24 Sep 2013, 7:22 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 7:16 pm)gtomlinson It's not wrong in the sense though. 24:00 is a perfectly acceptable way of replacing 0:00

And as defined in ISO 8601.

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Adrian
24 Sep 2013, 7:22 pm #603

(24 Sep 2013, 7:16 pm)gtomlinson It's not wrong in the sense though. 24:00 is a perfectly acceptable way of replacing 0:00

And as defined in ISO 8601.


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gtom
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24 Sep 2013, 7:35 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 7:22 pm)aureolin And as defined in ISO 8601.

Quite, not to go OT but television networks schedule to 26:00 hours.

Of course if GNE are to use 24:00 it should be used across the board, having seen the GNE Facebook wall you really don't want to confuse some of those idiots
gtom
24 Sep 2013, 7:35 pm #604

(24 Sep 2013, 7:22 pm)aureolin And as defined in ISO 8601.

Quite, not to go OT but television networks schedule to 26:00 hours.

Of course if GNE are to use 24:00 it should be used across the board, having seen the GNE Facebook wall you really don't want to confuse some of those idiots

14269
24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm
Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm #605

Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

gtom
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24 Sep 2013, 8:28 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm)Andreos1 Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?

I'm in the 'would look ugly on a Citaro' camp
gtom
24 Sep 2013, 8:28 pm #606

(24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm)Andreos1 Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?

I'm in the 'would look ugly on a Citaro' camp

14269
24 Sep 2013, 8:31 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:28 pm)gtomlinson I'm in the 'would look ugly on a Citaro' camp

But are you in the 'would look sexy on one of those buses you see in a Spanish holiday resort' camp?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Sep 2013, 8:31 pm #607

(24 Sep 2013, 8:28 pm)gtomlinson I'm in the 'would look ugly on a Citaro' camp

But are you in the 'would look sexy on one of those buses you see in a Spanish holiday resort' camp?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

gtom
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24 Sep 2013, 8:36 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:31 pm)Andreos1 But are you in the 'would look sexy on one of those buses you see in a Spanish holiday resort' camp?

No, the Metrolink would even look terrible on one of Llorente Bus Scania's Big GrinBig Grin

It suited the Solars well...more than it suited the original MetroTaxis stock in the 80s/90s
gtom
24 Sep 2013, 8:36 pm #608

(24 Sep 2013, 8:31 pm)Andreos1 But are you in the 'would look sexy on one of those buses you see in a Spanish holiday resort' camp?

No, the Metrolink would even look terrible on one of Llorente Bus Scania's Big GrinBig Grin

It suited the Solars well...more than it suited the original MetroTaxis stock in the 80s/90s

24 Sep 2013, 8:38 pm
How about the MetroLINK branding on a DAF? Big Grin

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Adrian
24 Sep 2013, 8:38 pm #609

How about the MetroLINK branding on a DAF? Big Grin


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gtom
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24 Sep 2013, 8:43 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:38 pm)aureolin How about the MetroLINK branding on a DAF? Big Grin

Adam, Liam, you heard the man...photoshop away please.

Big GrinBig Grin

That bus driver simulation game lets you drive a DAF....no word of a lie, mine broke down
gtom
24 Sep 2013, 8:43 pm #610

(24 Sep 2013, 8:38 pm)aureolin How about the MetroLINK branding on a DAF? Big Grin

Adam, Liam, you heard the man...photoshop away please.

Big GrinBig Grin

That bus driver simulation game lets you drive a DAF....no word of a lie, mine broke down

24 Sep 2013, 8:45 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:43 pm)gtomlinson Adam, Liam, you heard the man...photoshop away please.

Big GrinBig Grin

That bus driver simulation game lets you drive a DAF....no word of a lie, mine broke down

Surprised you seen it through the obligatory cloud of black smoke.

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Adrian
24 Sep 2013, 8:45 pm #611

(24 Sep 2013, 8:43 pm)gtomlinson Adam, Liam, you heard the man...photoshop away please.

Big GrinBig Grin

That bus driver simulation game lets you drive a DAF....no word of a lie, mine broke down

Surprised you seen it through the obligatory cloud of black smoke.


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6064
24 Sep 2013, 8:59 pm
I am quite intrigued as to why GNE have to decided to re-number the M1 to 4 as does seem to be a bit of an odd move regarding a rebrand, plus it would seem pointless re-numbering the M1 but not the M2/M3 as this would potentially confuse Passengers.

So would it not make more sense to also re-number the M2/M3 to 4A/4B, and have both under the "4 Connections" Brand alongside the M1 instead of a re-branded "Washington Street Shuttle" on the Versa's off the Saltwell Park.
Malarkey
24 Sep 2013, 8:59 pm #612

I am quite intrigued as to why GNE have to decided to re-number the M1 to 4 as does seem to be a bit of an odd move regarding a rebrand, plus it would seem pointless re-numbering the M1 but not the M2/M3 as this would potentially confuse Passengers.

So would it not make more sense to also re-number the M2/M3 to 4A/4B, and have both under the "4 Connections" Brand alongside the M1 instead of a re-branded "Washington Street Shuttle" on the Versa's off the Saltwell Park.

6064
24 Sep 2013, 9:01 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:45 pm)aureolin Surprised you seen it through the obligatory cloud of black smoke.

Bare with me and I shall create this for you.
Malarkey
24 Sep 2013, 9:01 pm #613

(24 Sep 2013, 8:45 pm)aureolin Surprised you seen it through the obligatory cloud of black smoke.

Bare with me and I shall create this for you.

237
24 Sep 2013, 9:07 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm)Andreos1 Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?

Super new buses for a 10min frequency service through Fencehouses with wifi & next stop announcements - you must be cock-a-hoop !
busman101
24 Sep 2013, 9:07 pm #614

(24 Sep 2013, 8:23 pm)Andreos1 Can any of the insiders confirm why the MetroLink branding (and numbering) is going?

Is it a political decision or a marketing one?

Super new buses for a 10min frequency service through Fencehouses with wifi & next stop announcements - you must be cock-a-hoop !

14269
24 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 9:07 pm)busman101 Super new buses for a 10min frequency service through Fencehouses with wifi & next stop announcements - you must be cock-a-hoop !

If I lived in Fencehouses I would be over the moon with wifi. Hopefully it will have plugs too Wink
The Fencehouses Popular Front will be over the moon. The powers that be at GNE towers just have to give them a service that runs beyond 9pm now!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm #615

(24 Sep 2013, 9:07 pm)busman101 Super new buses for a 10min frequency service through Fencehouses with wifi & next stop announcements - you must be cock-a-hoop !

If I lived in Fencehouses I would be over the moon with wifi. Hopefully it will have plugs too Wink
The Fencehouses Popular Front will be over the moon. The powers that be at GNE towers just have to give them a service that runs beyond 9pm now!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

6064
24 Sep 2013, 9:24 pm
At the request of GTomlinson

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Malarkey
24 Sep 2013, 9:24 pm #616

At the request of GTomlinson

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237
24 Sep 2013, 9:38 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm)Andreos1 If I lived in Fencehouses I would be over the moon with wifi. Hopefully it will have plugs too Wink
The Fencehouses Popular Front will be over the moon. The powers that be at GNE towers just have to give them a service that runs beyond 9pm now!

If Fencehouses was that popular it would have a bus after 9pm, but if there's no demand for a commercial service, it could always go out to tender from the local authority, but they mustn't think it justifies the expenditure
busman101
24 Sep 2013, 9:38 pm #617

(24 Sep 2013, 9:16 pm)Andreos1 If I lived in Fencehouses I would be over the moon with wifi. Hopefully it will have plugs too Wink
The Fencehouses Popular Front will be over the moon. The powers that be at GNE towers just have to give them a service that runs beyond 9pm now!

If Fencehouses was that popular it would have a bus after 9pm, but if there's no demand for a commercial service, it could always go out to tender from the local authority, but they mustn't think it justifies the expenditure

14269
24 Sep 2013, 9:45 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 9:38 pm)busman101 If Fencehouses was that popular it would have a bus after 9pm, but if there's no demand for a commercial service, it could always go out to tender from the local authority, but they mustn't think it justifies the expenditure

There is the Nexus funded 79a (that covers the Tyne & Wear part of Fencehouses).
That came about when DCC stopped funding the 71 late on and GNE decided they couldn't justify running an hourly bus for a few extra hours a night...

In all seriousness though, how does an operator decide if there is or is not enough demand?

Take Boxing Day for example.
Fencehouses has never had a service for as long as I can remember - if at all.
Who has decided that there isn't demand on that specific day to run a commercial service - but enough demand during a normal day to run 13 buses an hour through the place?

Conversely, the likes of Eppleton, Newbottle and Herrington Burn have at least 2 different services between the two points (x1 and 35) on Boxing Day?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Sep 2013, 9:45 pm #618

(24 Sep 2013, 9:38 pm)busman101 If Fencehouses was that popular it would have a bus after 9pm, but if there's no demand for a commercial service, it could always go out to tender from the local authority, but they mustn't think it justifies the expenditure

There is the Nexus funded 79a (that covers the Tyne & Wear part of Fencehouses).
That came about when DCC stopped funding the 71 late on and GNE decided they couldn't justify running an hourly bus for a few extra hours a night...

In all seriousness though, how does an operator decide if there is or is not enough demand?

Take Boxing Day for example.
Fencehouses has never had a service for as long as I can remember - if at all.
Who has decided that there isn't demand on that specific day to run a commercial service - but enough demand during a normal day to run 13 buses an hour through the place?

Conversely, the likes of Eppleton, Newbottle and Herrington Burn have at least 2 different services between the two points (x1 and 35) on Boxing Day?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

850
24 Sep 2013, 9:57 pm
I agree with andreos1.

To be honest, if Shiney Row, Fence Houses and Houghton-le-Spring can justify a service every 10 minutes during the day to The Galleries, Concord and Heworth, as well as a service every 30 minutes on Sunday daytimes (on the M1), why can't an evening service beyond Fatfield be viable? Even if they decided to bother with an hourly service, it would be a start!
BJ10VUS
24 Sep 2013, 9:57 pm #619

I agree with andreos1.

To be honest, if Shiney Row, Fence Houses and Houghton-le-Spring can justify a service every 10 minutes during the day to The Galleries, Concord and Heworth, as well as a service every 30 minutes on Sunday daytimes (on the M1), why can't an evening service beyond Fatfield be viable? Even if they decided to bother with an hourly service, it would be a start!

14269
24 Sep 2013, 10:07 pm
(24 Sep 2013, 9:57 pm)BJ10VUS I agree with andreos1.

To be honest, if Shiney Row, Fence Houses and Houghton-le-Spring can justify a service every 10 minutes during the day to The Galleries, Concord and Heworth, as well as a service every 30 minutes on Sunday daytimes (on the M1), why can't an evening service beyond Fatfield be viable? Even if they decided to bother with an hourly service, it would be a start!

Don't forget the 20a, 35a or 71 mind Wink.
They are included in the 13 per hour - in either direction.

26 buses ph (pretty similar to Low Fell levels of service) and not enough demand for an evening or boxing day service apparently...

I haven't included the 921 or 922 that whizz through Fencehouses on the way to Npower (or the hourly TB21, or the one in each direction 968 workers service or the 452 and 453 scholars buses nor the 3 runs of the 79a between 9.30pm and 11.30pm).

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Sep 2013, 10:07 pm #620

(24 Sep 2013, 9:57 pm)BJ10VUS I agree with andreos1.

To be honest, if Shiney Row, Fence Houses and Houghton-le-Spring can justify a service every 10 minutes during the day to The Galleries, Concord and Heworth, as well as a service every 30 minutes on Sunday daytimes (on the M1), why can't an evening service beyond Fatfield be viable? Even if they decided to bother with an hourly service, it would be a start!

Don't forget the 20a, 35a or 71 mind Wink.
They are included in the 13 per hour - in either direction.

26 buses ph (pretty similar to Low Fell levels of service) and not enough demand for an evening or boxing day service apparently...

I haven't included the 921 or 922 that whizz through Fencehouses on the way to Npower (or the hourly TB21, or the one in each direction 968 workers service or the 452 and 453 scholars buses nor the 3 runs of the 79a between 9.30pm and 11.30pm).


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