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citaro5284



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11 Sep 2017, 2:20 pm #201
(11 Sep 2017, 2:18 pm)TEN 6083 So anyone know how many are in service right now, typical of this to happen the one day I’m coming to Newcastle


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6308 - At Heworth heading to Newcastle
6309 - At Heworth heading to Boro
6313 - At Stockton heading to Boro
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citaro5284
11 Sep 2017, 2:20 pm #201

(11 Sep 2017, 2:18 pm)TEN 6083 So anyone know how many are in service right now, typical of this to happen the one day I’m coming to Newcastle


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6308 - At Heworth heading to Newcastle
6309 - At Heworth heading to Boro
6313 - At Stockton heading to Boro

citaro5284



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11 Sep 2017, 2:34 pm #202
(11 Sep 2017, 1:25 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Again, maybe GNE should have allowed a bit more time for (i) receiving and (ii) testing the buses before launching the service last week.  Surely two no shows on a 30 min headway can't be promoting the brand image that GNE are aiming for!

You don't buy a television expecting it not to work from day 1. 

6310 was used all Saturday night and all day yesterday without a fault, and as we all know, faults can just happen.  I cannot see what the difference would be having a bus running round for weeks, sooner new buses are put on the road the better imo.  The other 3 seem to be operating fine today.
citaro5284
11 Sep 2017, 2:34 pm #202

(11 Sep 2017, 1:25 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Again, maybe GNE should have allowed a bit more time for (i) receiving and (ii) testing the buses before launching the service last week.  Surely two no shows on a 30 min headway can't be promoting the brand image that GNE are aiming for!

You don't buy a television expecting it not to work from day 1. 

6310 was used all Saturday night and all day yesterday without a fault, and as we all know, faults can just happen.  I cannot see what the difference would be having a bus running round for weeks, sooner new buses are put on the road the better imo.  The other 3 seem to be operating fine today.

James101



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11 Sep 2017, 2:35 pm #203
(11 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm)The Jimmi Okay, I have no clue what happened with that 11:00 X10 from Newcastle then, attached is the area I was waiting for the B5's to appear in, it's possible another route was taken to Norton (possibly A1027 then High Street) but every time I've ever done the X10 it's gone past the area I've highlighted and was unaware of any other potential routes into Norton.
 
I've had an X10 at least once come via Norton Green when Boro bound, though we are talking a few years back.
James101
11 Sep 2017, 2:35 pm #203

(11 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm)The Jimmi Okay, I have no clue what happened with that 11:00 X10 from Newcastle then, attached is the area I was waiting for the B5's to appear in, it's possible another route was taken to Norton (possibly A1027 then High Street) but every time I've ever done the X10 it's gone past the area I've highlighted and was unaware of any other potential routes into Norton.
 
I've had an X10 at least once come via Norton Green when Boro bound, though we are talking a few years back.

Cock Robin



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11 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm #204
(11 Sep 2017, 1:58 pm)citaro5284 So the 1100 from Newcastle - did that operate as Cock Robin seen it leave on the 1245 from Boro?

It was definitely a TTX. I was doing a video but can't play it back as I don't have a camcorder with a working touchscreen at the moment!
Cock Robin
11 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm #204

(11 Sep 2017, 1:58 pm)citaro5284 So the 1100 from Newcastle - did that operate as Cock Robin seen it leave on the 1245 from Boro?

It was definitely a TTX. I was doing a video but can't play it back as I don't have a camcorder with a working touchscreen at the moment!

citaro5284



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11 Sep 2017, 2:38 pm #205
(11 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm)Jimmi Okay, I have no clue what happened with that 11:00 X10 from Newcastle then, attached is the area I was waiting for the B5's to appear in, it's possible another route was taken to Norton (possibly A1027 then High Street) but every time I've ever done the X10 it's gone past the area I've highlighted and was unaware of any other potential routes into Norton.[Image: fe8a96f3616e27ea04868647a47b7e96.jpg]

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(11 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm)Cock Robin It was definitely a TTX. I was doing a video but can't play it back as I don't have a camcorder with a working touchscreen at the moment!

I reckon was Jimmi was fleeing to get out of a way of a cyclist when it went past him  Tongue
citaro5284
11 Sep 2017, 2:38 pm #205

(11 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm)Jimmi Okay, I have no clue what happened with that 11:00 X10 from Newcastle then, attached is the area I was waiting for the B5's to appear in, it's possible another route was taken to Norton (possibly A1027 then High Street) but every time I've ever done the X10 it's gone past the area I've highlighted and was unaware of any other potential routes into Norton.[Image: fe8a96f3616e27ea04868647a47b7e96.jpg]

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(11 Sep 2017, 2:36 pm)Cock Robin It was definitely a TTX. I was doing a video but can't play it back as I don't have a camcorder with a working touchscreen at the moment!

I reckon was Jimmi was fleeing to get out of a way of a cyclist when it went past him  Tongue

BusLoverMum



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11 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm #206
(11 Sep 2017, 1:37 pm)Jimmi My sightings:

11:00 X10 from Newcastle - no show.
11:15 X10 from Boro - no show (3964 is now on this board, 14:45 X9 from Boro)
11:30 X9 from Newcastle - 6309.
11:45 X9 from Boro - 6045.
12:15 X10 from Boro - 6313.
13:45 X9 from Boro - TTX B9
14:15 X10 from Boro - 6308.

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Saw a TTX heading out of Heworth towards Newcastle around 11:10. I think if was on an X9, so I wonder if that was the 11am no show, assuming the services still interwork at ES.
BusLoverMum
11 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm #206

(11 Sep 2017, 1:37 pm)Jimmi My sightings:

11:00 X10 from Newcastle - no show.
11:15 X10 from Boro - no show (3964 is now on this board, 14:45 X9 from Boro)
11:30 X9 from Newcastle - 6309.
11:45 X9 from Boro - 6045.
12:15 X10 from Boro - 6313.
13:45 X9 from Boro - TTX B9
14:15 X10 from Boro - 6308.

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Saw a TTX heading out of Heworth towards Newcastle around 11:10. I think if was on an X9, so I wonder if that was the 11am no show, assuming the services still interwork at ES.

S813 FVK



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11 Sep 2017, 3:42 pm #207
(11 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm)BusLoverMum Saw a TTX heading out of Heworth towards Newcastle around 11:10. I think if was on an X9, so I wonder if that was the 11am no show, assuming the services still interwork at ES.

They only interwork at Middlesbrough
S813 FVK
11 Sep 2017, 3:42 pm #207

(11 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm)BusLoverMum Saw a TTX heading out of Heworth towards Newcastle around 11:10. I think if was on an X9, so I wonder if that was the 11am no show, assuming the services still interwork at ES.

They only interwork at Middlesbrough

11 Sep 2017, 4:47 pm #208
(11 Sep 2017, 2:34 pm)citaro5284 You don't buy a television expecting it not to work from day 1. 

6310 was used all Saturday night and all day yesterday without a fault, and as we all know, faults can just happen.  I cannot see what the difference would be having a bus running round for weeks, sooner new buses are put on the road the better imo.  The other 3 seem to be operating fine today.

I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree if you really think this shambles represents a well executed relaunch of the service.  Relaunched 3rd Sept, new buses supposed to arrive a week later (ludicrous in itself) and even with that extension, only three of a PVR of seven were covered by the new buses, and reports of missed journeys on some of the other boards.
stagecoachbusdepot
11 Sep 2017, 4:47 pm #208

(11 Sep 2017, 2:34 pm)citaro5284 You don't buy a television expecting it not to work from day 1. 

6310 was used all Saturday night and all day yesterday without a fault, and as we all know, faults can just happen.  I cannot see what the difference would be having a bus running round for weeks, sooner new buses are put on the road the better imo.  The other 3 seem to be operating fine today.

I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree if you really think this shambles represents a well executed relaunch of the service.  Relaunched 3rd Sept, new buses supposed to arrive a week later (ludicrous in itself) and even with that extension, only three of a PVR of seven were covered by the new buses, and reports of missed journeys on some of the other boards.

Cock Robin



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11 Sep 2017, 5:08 pm #209
(11 Sep 2017, 4:47 pm)stagecoachbusdepot I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree if you really think this shambles represents a well executed relaunch of the service.  Relaunched 3rd Sept, new buses supposed to arrive a week later (ludicrous in itself) and even with that extension, only three of a PVR of seven were covered by the new buses, and reports of missed journeys on some of the other boards.


I totally agree. And I WOULD expect a new tv to work from day one!
Cock Robin
11 Sep 2017, 5:08 pm #209

(11 Sep 2017, 4:47 pm)stagecoachbusdepot I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree if you really think this shambles represents a well executed relaunch of the service.  Relaunched 3rd Sept, new buses supposed to arrive a week later (ludicrous in itself) and even with that extension, only three of a PVR of seven were covered by the new buses, and reports of missed journeys on some of the other boards.


I totally agree. And I WOULD expect a new tv to work from day one!

11 Sep 2017, 5:16 pm #210
6310 broken down on A19 sliproad , doors wont shut apparently ... great .. !
Citaro5326
11 Sep 2017, 5:16 pm #210

6310 broken down on A19 sliproad , doors wont shut apparently ... great .. !

Jimmi



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11 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm #211
(11 Sep 2017, 5:16 pm)Citaro5326 6310 broken down on A19 sliproad , doors wont shut apparently ... great .. !

Would this be a bad time to point that i got on 6308 this afternoon and one of the metal strips that go between the interior lights was dumped on the back ledge, not a major problem but hardly attractive seeing bits falling off already!

Video of 6308: https://youtu.be/93BK103wSug

Also to give more of an idea where I was waiting for photos as to how I didn't see some buses heading to/from Middlesbrough:
[Image: 36979851806_a101b3c4a0_z.jpg]Go North East: 6313 / NK67EBG by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr
Jimmi
11 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm #211

(11 Sep 2017, 5:16 pm)Citaro5326 6310 broken down on A19 sliproad , doors wont shut apparently ... great .. !

Would this be a bad time to point that i got on 6308 this afternoon and one of the metal strips that go between the interior lights was dumped on the back ledge, not a major problem but hardly attractive seeing bits falling off already!

Video of 6308: https://youtu.be/93BK103wSug

Also to give more of an idea where I was waiting for photos as to how I didn't see some buses heading to/from Middlesbrough:
[Image: 36979851806_a101b3c4a0_z.jpg]Go North East: 6313 / NK67EBG by Matthew Jimmison, on Flickr

11 Sep 2017, 6:06 pm #212
(11 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm)Jimmi Video of 6308: https://youtu.be/93BK103wSug

Sounds like the Tees Barrage stop doesnt get announced until the bus is pulling away??
stagecoachbusdepot
11 Sep 2017, 6:06 pm #212

(11 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm)Jimmi Video of 6308: https://youtu.be/93BK103wSug

Sounds like the Tees Barrage stop doesnt get announced until the bus is pulling away??

Jimmi



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11 Sep 2017, 6:19 pm #213
(11 Sep 2017, 6:06 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Sounds like the Tees Barrage stop doesnt get announced until the bus is pulling away??

Think Tees Barrage was announced as the bus was heading through the lights on Newport Road as it was heading to join the A66.

I thought that the next stop announcements could do with being turned up a bit, I could barely hear them sat at the back.
Jimmi
11 Sep 2017, 6:19 pm #213

(11 Sep 2017, 6:06 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Sounds like the Tees Barrage stop doesnt get announced until the bus is pulling away??

Think Tees Barrage was announced as the bus was heading through the lights on Newport Road as it was heading to join the A66.

I thought that the next stop announcements could do with being turned up a bit, I could barely hear them sat at the back.

Dan

Site Administrator

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11 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm #214
Yes - no real point announcing the next stop while people are still shuffling around and getting comfortable, so the next stop leaving Newcastle isn't announced until the lights on Percy Street, and the next stop leaving Middlesbrough isn't announced until the main junction before you head off onto the A66.

The announcements are set up completely differently for the X9/X10 to the usual style - some stops have no Next Stop Announcements until they pull away from the previous stopping point then announce a more train-like script (after all, it's a long distance service!) The announcements on the Castles Express X21 are likely to follow in this style - at least between Newcastle and Durham.

There are better "approaching" announcements than found on the X21 service - they are now plotted at a specific point rather than distance away from the next stop, and give passengers sufficient time to gather their belongings before alighting.

There are also announcements to advise customers of upcoming disruptions to the service - such as Testos Roundabout not being served on northbound journeys. There are also suggestions for what to alight at that stop for - such as the market on specific days of the week at Stockton (again, the announcements tell you what days these are).

All about making the most of the system's abilities. Go North East and Lothian Buses are working very closely with Hanover to develop new functionality in the system.

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Dan
11 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm #214

Yes - no real point announcing the next stop while people are still shuffling around and getting comfortable, so the next stop leaving Newcastle isn't announced until the lights on Percy Street, and the next stop leaving Middlesbrough isn't announced until the main junction before you head off onto the A66.

The announcements are set up completely differently for the X9/X10 to the usual style - some stops have no Next Stop Announcements until they pull away from the previous stopping point then announce a more train-like script (after all, it's a long distance service!) The announcements on the Castles Express X21 are likely to follow in this style - at least between Newcastle and Durham.

There are better "approaching" announcements than found on the X21 service - they are now plotted at a specific point rather than distance away from the next stop, and give passengers sufficient time to gather their belongings before alighting.

There are also announcements to advise customers of upcoming disruptions to the service - such as Testos Roundabout not being served on northbound journeys. There are also suggestions for what to alight at that stop for - such as the market on specific days of the week at Stockton (again, the announcements tell you what days these are).

All about making the most of the system's abilities. Go North East and Lothian Buses are working very closely with Hanover to develop new functionality in the system.

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11 Sep 2017, 7:04 pm #215
(11 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm)Dan Yes - no real point announcing the next stop while people are still shuffling around and getting comfortable, so the next stop leaving Newcastle isn't announced until the lights on Percy Street, and the next stop leaving Middlesbrough isn't announced until the main junction before you head off onto the A66.

The announcements are set up completely differently for the X9/X10 to the usual style - some stops have no Next Stop Announcements until they pull away from the previous stopping point then announce a more train-like script (after all, it's a long distance service!) The announcements on the Castles Express X21 are likely to follow in this style - at least between Newcastle and Durham.

There are better "approaching" announcements than found on the X21 service - they are now plotted at a specific point rather than distance away from the next stop, and give passengers sufficient time to gather their belongings before alighting.

There are also announcements to advise customers of upcoming disruptions to the service - such as Testos Roundabout not being served on northbound journeys. There are also suggestions for what to alight at that stop for - such as the market on specific days of the week at Stockton (again, the announcements tell you what days these are).

All about making the most of the system's abilities. Go North East and Lothian Buses are working very closely with Hanover to develop new functionality in the system.

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Well from Jimmi’s video, either the display or the audio is wrong.  From about 40 secs the display says Next Stop is Tees Barrage, at about 5min someone gets off, the display announces Tees Barrage, but the audio saying “This is Tees Barrage” doesn’t kick in until the bus is moving away from the stop, which seems a bit late.
stagecoachbusdepot
11 Sep 2017, 7:04 pm #215

(11 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm)Dan Yes - no real point announcing the next stop while people are still shuffling around and getting comfortable, so the next stop leaving Newcastle isn't announced until the lights on Percy Street, and the next stop leaving Middlesbrough isn't announced until the main junction before you head off onto the A66.

The announcements are set up completely differently for the X9/X10 to the usual style - some stops have no Next Stop Announcements until they pull away from the previous stopping point then announce a more train-like script (after all, it's a long distance service!) The announcements on the Castles Express X21 are likely to follow in this style - at least between Newcastle and Durham.

There are better "approaching" announcements than found on the X21 service - they are now plotted at a specific point rather than distance away from the next stop, and give passengers sufficient time to gather their belongings before alighting.

There are also announcements to advise customers of upcoming disruptions to the service - such as Testos Roundabout not being served on northbound journeys. There are also suggestions for what to alight at that stop for - such as the market on specific days of the week at Stockton (again, the announcements tell you what days these are).

All about making the most of the system's abilities. Go North East and Lothian Buses are working very closely with Hanover to develop new functionality in the system.

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Well from Jimmi’s video, either the display or the audio is wrong.  From about 40 secs the display says Next Stop is Tees Barrage, at about 5min someone gets off, the display announces Tees Barrage, but the audio saying “This is Tees Barrage” doesn’t kick in until the bus is moving away from the stop, which seems a bit late.

S813 FVK



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11 Sep 2017, 7:18 pm #216
(11 Sep 2017, 7:04 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Well from Jimmi’s video, either the display or the audio is wrong.  From about 40 secs the display says Next Stop is Tees Barrage, at about 5min someone gets off, the display announces Tees Barrage, but the audio saying “This is Tees Barrage” doesn’t kick in until the bus is moving away from the stop, which seems a bit late.

I don't think it is wrong and is probably a case of 1 person getting off the bus takes less time than it does for that particular announcement to play. It certainly isn't specific to the X9/X10.
Edited 11 Sep 2017, 7:20 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
11 Sep 2017, 7:18 pm #216

(11 Sep 2017, 7:04 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Well from Jimmi’s video, either the display or the audio is wrong.  From about 40 secs the display says Next Stop is Tees Barrage, at about 5min someone gets off, the display announces Tees Barrage, but the audio saying “This is Tees Barrage” doesn’t kick in until the bus is moving away from the stop, which seems a bit late.

I don't think it is wrong and is probably a case of 1 person getting off the bus takes less time than it does for that particular announcement to play. It certainly isn't specific to the X9/X10.

11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm #217
Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.
Greg in Weardale
11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm #217

Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.

11 Sep 2017, 8:12 pm #218
(11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm)Greg in Weardale Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.

Agreed.

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South Tyne Lad
11 Sep 2017, 8:12 pm #218

(11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm)Greg in Weardale Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.

Agreed.


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6,030
11 Sep 2017, 8:18 pm #219
(11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm)Greg in Weardale Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.

Tyne Tees Xpress was a good brand, yes. Never understood the reasoning for the 'NE' being a different colour from the 'TY' though. All I can think of is to highlight that the service operates in the North East but that seems like a pointless piece of information to tell customers.

The X9|X10 brand name, if it can be called that, gets straight to the point to me. I instantly know which services the buses operate on without having to look up at the destination display which, not now in my case but certainly soon, would involve taking my eyes off the road if I was driving.
Edited 11 Sep 2017, 8:21 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
11 Sep 2017, 8:18 pm #219

(11 Sep 2017, 7:48 pm)Greg in Weardale Just realised that "Tyne Tees Express" has been dropped from the brand which is now simply "X9/X10", a disappointing and illogical change. Brands with just numbers are rather meaningless, like "the 49" and it was a great improvement  changing the boring "Ten" to "Tyne Valley Ten". The "Tyne Tees Express" was relevant and well known.

Tyne Tees Xpress was a good brand, yes. Never understood the reasoning for the 'NE' being a different colour from the 'TY' though. All I can think of is to highlight that the service operates in the North East but that seems like a pointless piece of information to tell customers.

The X9|X10 brand name, if it can be called that, gets straight to the point to me. I instantly know which services the buses operate on without having to look up at the destination display which, not now in my case but certainly soon, would involve taking my eyes off the road if I was driving.

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11 Sep 2017, 8:20 pm #220
Branding is a failure if they have to cover with spares/wrong because people pay far too much attention to the colour, rather than the display.

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Jamie M
11 Sep 2017, 8:20 pm #220

Branding is a failure if they have to cover with spares/wrong because people pay far too much attention to the colour, rather than the display.

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