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tyresmoke 09 Mar 2018, 10:59 pm

#31

(07 Mar 2018, 8:22 pm)Andreos1 wrote http://travelwestyorks.proboards.com/thr...withdrawal

The musings are at the bottom of the page.

Them along with the 2 Solos returning from Selby. Many other moves potentially in the pipeline apparently.

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NewcastleOne 09 Mar 2018, 11:52 pm

#32

Today I saw 1525&1527 Gemini 2s
(I believe it was them 2) and it got me thinking. As the 308 was a max route or still sort of is i wonder if that could mean they are getting new buses? This could then leave the Gemini 2s to Replace older Gemini 1s.

Dan 10 Mar 2018, 7:23 am

#33

(09 Mar 2018, 10:05 pm)Rapidsnap wrote Just followed a 23 branded Streetlite on a diverted 306 up Chuchill St tonight. Registration ended in either EEF or EEP.

Following the entry into service of the new Streetlites at Darlington, 1462/63/65 and 1507 have transferred to Belmont. 1574 and 1575 have both consequently transferred to Jesmond.

upt50k 10 Mar 2018, 10:21 am

#34

(01 Mar 2018, 7:20 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Due to ongoing driver shortages at Darlington, Stockton will be taking operating of 2 X66/X67 turns from Monday.

There have been shortages many times over the years with drivers borrowed from other depots. It seems most companies are suffering problems with staff retention.It is a difficult job with very tight scheduling, reduced terms and conditions for new staff,a much more customer focused role [being the referee between pushchair and wheelchair users as highlighted by posts we see] a very complex range of tickets.On top of this there are customers which are highly prized by the management who not only cheat wherever they can but complain about the driver if caught out and can be very aggressive and intimidating. I have worked in the industry since 1973 and seen many changes but would not take this up as a career under the current situation.In Darlingtons case it was considered as the "problem child" when Mr. Knox became M.D. and the manager was changed many non customer focussed drivers left or were sacked the fleet was upgraded.The depot became depot of the month many times with top results so should be a great place to work and somewhere that drivers would want to work. So why do they not stay? My opinion is that the day to day operational roles e.g. detailer and traffic officers are still the same and from experience I have to say they were the worst I have ever worked with

GNE6312 10 Mar 2018, 8:26 pm

#35

(10 Mar 2018, 7:23 am)Dan wrote Following the entry into service of the new Streetlites at Darlington, 1462/63/65 and 1507 have transferred to Belmont. 1574 and 1575 have both consequently transferred to Jesmond.

Seen a 23 branded streetlite at blyth depot last night has one transferred to blyth too

Wiseyarriva 11 Mar 2018, 8:25 pm

#36

(10 Mar 2018, 10:21 am)upt50k wrote There have been shortages many times over the years with drivers borrowed from other depots. It seems most companies are suffering problems with staff retention.It is a difficult job with very tight scheduling, reduced terms and conditions for new staff,a much more customer focused role [being the referee between pushchair and wheelchair users as highlighted by posts we see] a very complex range of tickets.On top of this there are customers which are highly prized by the management who not only cheat wherever they can but complain about the driver if caught out and can be very aggressive and intimidating. I have worked in the industry since 1973 and seen many changes but would not take this up as a career under the current situation.In Darlingtons case it was considered as the "problem child" when Mr. Knox became M.D. and the manager was changed many non customer focussed drivers left or were sacked the fleet was upgraded.The depot became depot of the month many times with top results so should be a great place to work and somewhere that drivers would want to work. So why do they not stay? My opinion is that the day to day operational roles e.g. detailer and traffic officers are still the same and from experience I have to say they were the worst I have ever worked with

This makes me feel so good - being blamed for the issues at Darlington. Beaten from all angles when I am literally killing myself working endless hours trying to cover work.

Wiseyarriva 11 Mar 2018, 9:29 pm

#37

(10 Mar 2018, 7:23 am)Dan wrote Following the entry into service of the new Streetlites at Darlington, 1462/63/65 and 1507 have transferred to Belmont. 1574 and 1575 have both consequently transferred to Jesmond.

Only leaves 1461, 1498 and 1506 to go to Durham. 1461 is currently in the naughty bus corner at Darlington again.

S830OFT 12 Mar 2018, 8:26 am

#38

(11 Mar 2018, 9:29 pm)Wiseyarriva wrote O

Only leaves 1461, 1498 and 1506 to go to Durham. 1461 is currently in the naughty bus corner at Darlington again.

Are 1508 - 1511 remaining for the 8?

Wiseyarriva 12 Mar 2018, 6:01 pm

#39

(12 Mar 2018, 8:26 am)S830OFT wrote Are 1508 - 1511 remaining for the 8?

At present 1424 and 1508 to 1511 are remaining mostly for the 8. I suspect one will leave when 4813 returns to service

Wiseyarriva 12 Mar 2018, 6:05 pm

#40

IMAN Ecocity 4813 which suffered major rear End accident damage last year returned from body repairs on Thorntons low loader today to Darlington and was promptly dispatched to MAN at Stockton

ross13 13 Mar 2018, 2:40 am

#41

(12 Mar 2018, 6:01 pm)Wiseyarriva wrote
At present 1424 and 1508 to 1511 are remaining mostly for the 8. I suspect one will leave when 4813 returns to service

I'm guessing that 4813 hasn't been repainted into the new eco livery

Wiseyarriva 13 Mar 2018, 7:57 pm

#42

(13 Mar 2018, 2:40 am)ross13 wrote I'm guessing that 4813 hasn't been repainted into the new eco livery

No it’s come back in old livery and still with out of date 21 branding

Stuartphin1639 14 Mar 2018, 11:23 am

#43

(13 Mar 2018, 7:57 pm)Wiseyarriva wrote
No it’s come back in old livery and still with out of date 21 branding

Is it back now?

Andreos1 14 Mar 2018, 1:17 pm

#44

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/16..._/?ref=rss

Definitely a contender for the 'Angry people in local newspapers' fb page.
What is lacking, is a photo of 'er in doors' standing at a stop, looking angry.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

mb134 14 Mar 2018, 4:03 pm

#45

(14 Mar 2018, 1:17 pm)Andreos1 wrote http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/16..._/?ref=rss

Definitely a contender for the 'Angry people in local newspapers' fb page.
What is lacking, is a photo of 'er in doors' standing at a stop, looking angry.

I like that it doesn't include any details about when the next bus came. Highly likely he was the run before running very late, and knew there was a bus just behind.

"told her not to bother" complaining for a free ticket? Definitely seems off.

tyresmoke 14 Mar 2018, 6:00 pm

#46

Enviro 200 1063 has transferred from Dewsbury to Durham, now numbered 1330 in NE fleet.

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NewcastleOne 14 Mar 2018, 6:43 pm

#47

(14 Mar 2018, 6:00 pm)tyresmoke wrote Enviro 200 1063 has transferred from Dewsbury to Durham, now numbered 1330 in NE fleet.

Do you know how many we are receiving

RBZ 5459 14 Mar 2018, 9:17 pm

#48

Summary of March movements so far.... this period doesn't note the two E200 transfers (1329 ex-1062, 1330 ex-1063)

1406 (NK09BPU) Darlington ->Stockton temp service transfer
1416 (NK09EJE) Darlington-> Stockton temp service transfer
1461 (NK61XCS) Durham -> Darlington
1425/26/28 (NK61EKA/B/d) Darlington -> Stockton
1465 (NK61 CXW) Darlington -> Durham
1507 (NK13 FJP) Darlington -> Durham
1574/75 (NK64EEJ/K) Durham -> Jesmond
1759 (NK53VKA) Redcar/Whitby (Reserve) -> Redcar/Whitby
1766 (NK05GWE) Redcar/Whitby Blyth (replaces 2831)
2803 (YK58ERV) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2804 (YK58ERX) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2817 (YK08ETR) Durham -> Darlington
2831 (YJ08XBM) - 2 branded - Blyth -> Selby
2826 (YJ08XBF) Redcar -> Selby
2862 (YJ11OHX) - Freqenta 4 - Darlington -> Redcar
4517/23 (W293/99PPT) Jesmond Reserve fleet (Jesmond)
7474 (W403VGJ) Awaiting Disposal -> Reserve
7801 (NK13AZA) Blyth -> AYK
7803 (NK13AZC) Blyth -> AYK
7805 (NK13AZF) Blyth ->AYK
7806 (NK13AZG) Blyth -> AYK
7808 (NK13AZL) Blyth ->AYK
7609 (NK59DMO) Durham -> Thorntons
7610 (NK59DMU) Durham -> Thorntons
7628 (YJ61OAY) AYK ->Blyth
7629 (YJ61OAZ) AYK ->Blyth
7630 (YJ61OBA) AYK ->Blyth
7633 (YJ61OBF) AYK ->Blyth
7636 (YJ61OBK) AYK ->Blyth

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

NewcastleOne 14 Mar 2018, 9:37 pm

#49

(14 Mar 2018, 9:17 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Summary of March movements so far.... this period doesn't note the two E200 transfers (1329 ex-1062, 1330 ex-1063)

1406 (NK09BPU) Darlington ->Stockton temp service transfer
1416 (NK09EJE) Darlington-> Stockton temp service transfer
1461 (NK61XCS) Durham -> Darlington
1425/26/28 (NK61EKA/B/d) Darlington -> Stockton
1465 (NK61 CXW) Darlington -> Durham
1507 (NK13 FJP) Darlington -> Durham
1574/75 (NK64EEJ/K) Durham -> Jesmond
1759 (NK53VKA) Redcar/Whitby (Reserve) -> Redcar/Whitby
1766 (NK05GWE) Redcar/Whitby Blyth (replaces 2831)
2803 (YK58ERV) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2804 (YK58ERX) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2817 (YK08ETR) Durham -> Darlington
2831 (YJ08XBM) - 2 branded - Blyth -> Selby
2826 (YJ08XBF) Redcar -> Selby
2862 (YJ11OHX) - Freqenta 4 - Darlington -> Redcar
4517/23 (W293/99PPT) Jesmond Reserve fleet (Jesmond)
7474 (W403VGJ) Awaiting Disposal -> Reserve
7801 (NK13AZA) Blyth -> AYK
7803 (NK13AZC) Blyth -> AYK
7805 (NK13AZF) Blyth ->AYK
7806 (NK13AZG) Blyth -> AYK
7808 (NK13AZL) Blyth ->AYK
7609 (NK59DMO) Durham -> Thorntons
7610 (NK59DMU) Durham -> Thorntons
7628 (YJ61OAY) AYK ->Blyth
7629 (YJ61OAZ) AYK ->Blyth
7630 (YJ61OBA) AYK ->Blyth
7633 (YJ61OBF) AYK ->Blyth
7636 (YJ61OBK) AYK ->Blyth

What are 7609&7610 doing at Thornton’s, could it be repaints and why have 2 Optare Solos gone to Arriva Yorkshire selby is this a loan?

S813 FVK 14 Mar 2018, 9:41 pm

#50

(14 Mar 2018, 9:37 pm)NewcastleOne wrote What are 7609&7610 doing at Thornton’s

I suspect that these two will be the ones allocated to the Whitby Park & Ride from Easter so will probably be there for repaint.

RBZ 5459 14 Mar 2018, 11:11 pm

#51

(14 Mar 2018, 9:37 pm)NewcastleOne wrote What are 7609&7610 doing at Thornton’s, could it be repaints and why have 2 Optare Solos gone to Arriva Yorkshire selby is this a loan?

I suspect in exchange for 2602/3 somewhere along the lines, so they can return back to Jesmond.

(14 Mar 2018, 9:41 pm)S813 FVK wrote I suspect that these two will be the ones allocated to the Whitby Park & Ride from Easter so will probably be there for repaint.

Correct.

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omnicity4659 14 Mar 2018, 11:51 pm

#52

7474 has been working out of Ashington for a good few months, and still does. Don't know how it's only just been removed from the Disposal list.

Stuartphin1639 15 Mar 2018, 12:47 am

#53

(14 Mar 2018, 9:17 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Summary of March movements so far.... this period doesn't note the two E200 transfers (1329 ex-1062, 1330 ex-1063)

1406 (NK09BPU) Darlington ->Stockton temp service transfer
1416 (NK09EJE) Darlington-> Stockton temp service transfer
1461 (NK61XCS) Durham -> Darlington
1425/26/28 (NK61EKA/B/d) Darlington -> Stockton
1465 (NK61 CXW) Darlington -> Durham
1507 (NK13 FJP) Darlington -> Durham
1574/75 (NK64EEJ/K) Durham -> Jesmond
1759 (NK53VKA) Redcar/Whitby (Reserve) -> Redcar/Whitby
1766 (NK05GWE) Redcar/Whitby Blyth (replaces 2831)
2803 (YK58ERV) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2804 (YK58ERX) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2817 (YK08ETR) Durham -> Darlington
2831 (YJ08XBM) - 2 branded - Blyth -> Selby
2826 (YJ08XBF) Redcar -> Selby
2862 (YJ11OHX) - Freqenta 4 - Darlington -> Redcar
4517/23 (W293/99PPT) Jesmond Reserve fleet (Jesmond)
7474 (W403VGJ) Awaiting Disposal -> Reserve
7801 (NK13AZA) Blyth -> AYK
7803 (NK13AZC) Blyth -> AYK
7805 (NK13AZF) Blyth ->AYK
7806 (NK13AZG) Blyth -> AYK
7808 (NK13AZL) Blyth ->AYK
7609 (NK59DMO) Durham -> Thorntons
7610 (NK59DMU) Durham -> Thorntons
7628 (YJ61OAY) AYK ->Blyth
7629 (YJ61OAZ) AYK ->Blyth
7630 (YJ61OBA) AYK ->Blyth
7633 (YJ61OBF) AYK ->Blyth
7636 (YJ61OBK) AYK ->Blyth

Why’s 2862 going from Darlington to Redcar

Why’s Darlington getting 2817 in replacement

ross13 15 Mar 2018, 1:55 am

#54

(15 Mar 2018, 12:47 am)Stuartphin1639 wrote Why’s 2862 going from Darlington to Redcar

Why’s Darlington getting 2817 in replacement

2862 was still in service today at Darlington

Multi21 15 Mar 2018, 2:16 am

#55

(11 Mar 2018, 8:25 pm)Wiseyarriva wrote H

This makes me feel so good - being blamed for the issues at Darlington. Beaten from all angles when I am literally killing myself working endless hours trying to cover work.

Sounds like sour grapes from a washed up has been, I wouldn't take it to heart.

(14 Mar 2018, 9:17 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Summary of March movements so far.... this period doesn't note the two E200 transfers (1329 ex-1062, 1330 ex-1063)

1406 (NK09BPU) Darlington ->Stockton temp service transfer
1416 (NK09EJE) Darlington-> Stockton temp service transfer
1461 (NK61XCS) Durham -> Darlington
1425/26/28 (NK61EKA/B/d) Darlington -> Stockton
1465 (NK61 CXW) Darlington -> Durham
1507 (NK13 FJP) Darlington -> Durham
1574/75 (NK64EEJ/K) Durham -> Jesmond
1759 (NK53VKA) Redcar/Whitby (Reserve) -> Redcar/Whitby
1766 (NK05GWE) Redcar/Whitby Blyth (replaces 2831)
2803 (YK58ERV) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2804 (YK58ERX) Stockton Reserve fleet (Stockton)
2817 (YK08ETR) Durham -> Darlington
2831 (YJ08XBM) - 2 branded - Blyth -> Selby
2826 (YJ08XBF) Redcar -> Selby
2862 (YJ11OHX) - Freqenta 4 - Darlington -> Redcar
4517/23 (W293/99PPT) Jesmond Reserve fleet (Jesmond)
7474 (W403VGJ) Awaiting Disposal -> Reserve
7801 (NK13AZA) Blyth -> AYK
7803 (NK13AZC) Blyth -> AYK
7805 (NK13AZF) Blyth ->AYK
7806 (NK13AZG) Blyth -> AYK
7808 (NK13AZL) Blyth ->AYK
7609 (NK59DMO) Durham -> Thorntons
7610 (NK59DMU) Durham -> Thorntons
7628 (YJ61OAY) AYK ->Blyth
7629 (YJ61OAZ) AYK ->Blyth
7630 (YJ61OBA) AYK ->Blyth
7633 (YJ61OBF) AYK ->Blyth
7636 (YJ61OBK) AYK ->Blyth

This Is going to seem odd after my last post. After spending a few weeks on death row, I'm thrilled to announce 1922 is coming back into fleet. Its been fitted with a new gearbox also I noticed 1917 sat on the MOT prep bays.. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the Cadets just yet.

Kuyoyo 15 Mar 2018, 3:58 am

#56

(15 Mar 2018, 12:47 am)Stuartphin1639 wrote Why’s 2862 going from Darlington to Redcar

Why’s Darlington getting 2817 in replacement

Whitby need newer Solos for the Park & Ride contract - Jesmond are meant to be losing 2870/1 for the P1 board plus one of Darlington’s 11-regs is to move as a spare, was originally mentioned as 2869.

(15 Mar 2018, 2:16 am)Multi21 wrote This Is going to seem odd after my last post. After spending a few weeks on death row, I'm thrilled to announce 1922 is coming back into fleet. Its been fitted with a new gearbox also I noticed 1917 sat on the MOT prep bays.. I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of the Cadets just yet.

The lives of the Cadets has just been given a year extension

RBZ 5459 15 Mar 2018, 9:16 am

#57

(15 Mar 2018, 3:58 am)Kuyoyo wrote The lives of the Cadets has just been given a year extension

Would seem so, some of the better disposal ones look set to be coming back on the road with loss of Solos to AY.

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Kuyoyo 15 Mar 2018, 9:42 am

#58

(15 Mar 2018, 9:16 am)RBZ 5459 wrote Would seem so, some of the better disposal ones look set to be coming back on the road with loss of Solos to AY.

I believe the Solos from Stockton will be heading to Yorkshire Tiger rather than the main Yorkshire fleet - given the contract wins in the Bradford area.

RBZ 5459 15 Mar 2018, 10:30 am

#59

(15 Mar 2018, 9:42 am)Kuyoyo wrote I believe the Solos from Stockton will be heading to Yorkshire Tiger rather than the main Yorkshire fleet - given the contract wins in the Bradford area.

Indeedo, just my general wording there.

RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

BusLoverMum 16 Mar 2018, 7:17 am

#60

Are these Yorkshire E200s in the new livery? If so, one has just passed on the 64 route. Didn't see if it was an actual 64.