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Michael   12 May 2019, 1:46 pm
(12 May 2019, 1:43 pm)ifm001 wrote Cancelled E6 journeys will be the morning Shields to Marsden only. Can be replaced with 7/8 if still to exist.

Ah right cool, thanks =)

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big mac   13 May 2019, 6:20 pm
(12 May 2019, 1:22 pm)AIG20 wrote I wonder if there is anything else planned for South Shields depot with several services moving to Sunderland Depot?

Also, is the X34 still being moved to Walkergate Depot? It would be nice to have a mixture of E400s on this route.

I'd heard on this forum earlier this year that the X34 was to move to Sunderland as well and it and the X24 would interwork. Any truth in that?
GuyParkRoyal   14 May 2019, 2:47 pm
E1, E2 & E6 now confirmed as being operated by Sunderland from 23rd June 2019.

PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Jun 2019

BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Jun 2019
AIG20   14 May 2019, 3:05 pm
(13 May 2019, 6:20 pm)big mac wrote I'd heard on this forum earlier this year that the X34 was to move to Sunderland as well and it and the X24 would interwork. Any truth in that?

Steven Knight Media reported a while back that service X34 could possibly be moving to Walkergate Depot? If this does happen hopefully there will be more buses from Newcastle later in the evening, and Stagecoach would no-longer need to issue an apology on twitter for a single decker being used as there should be more chance of a spare decker being available here in the event of a mechanical failure or severe delay.

(14 May 2019, 2:47 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote E1, E2 & E6 now confirmed as being operated by Sunderland from 23rd June 2019.

PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Jun 2019

BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Jun 2019

I wonder if the vehicle allocation will also change - some gas buses appearing on the E's with some of the ADL E300s appearing on other Sunderland routes? Hopefully this will mean that Sunderland depot could get more gas-powered buses in the future?
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OrangeArrow49   14 May 2019, 3:19 pm
Any chance of the X34 being extended to South Shields Interchange when it opens? When is the new interchange opening?
LVK 404L   14 May 2019, 3:46 pm
(14 May 2019, 3:19 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Any chance of the X34 being extended to South Shields Interchange when it opens? When is the new interchange opening?

It will never be extended to to the town centre. As that would result in the Marsden loop being removed or buses having to double back on themselves. 

Better off extending the X20 From Fellgate to Heworth and Gateshead/Newcastle. Even if still only hourly I believe it would get the custom.
deanmachine   14 May 2019, 3:47 pm
(14 May 2019, 3:19 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Any chance of the X34 being extended to South Shields Interchange when it opens? When is the new interchange opening?

Doubt it, don't see any need of it going to South Shields. Plenty of buses go from Horsley Hill, Harton and Marsden to Shields, and express buses are never going to stand a chance of competing with the Metro to Newcastle.
Dans_bus_photos   14 May 2019, 5:05 pm
I wonder if the X20/30s could interwork with the Es when they move to Sunderland?
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Michael   14 May 2019, 6:35 pm
(14 May 2019, 3:05 pm)AIG20 wrote

I wonder if the vehicle allocation will also change - some gas buses appearing on the E's with some of the ADL E300s appearing on other Sunderland routes? Hopefully this will mean that Sunderland depot could get more gas-powered buses in the future?

Hopefully in the next 2 or so years! Tongue

Does Sunderland have enough room for all the extra buses though? 


PVR for the E's is 15 
The current 30 interworks with the 10/11
X20 is a 1 PVR


would say around 17/18 more buses at Sunderland, currently they have 82 buses.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
stagecoachbusdepot   14 May 2019, 9:28 pm
(14 May 2019, 6:35 pm)Michael wrote Hopefully in the next 2 or so years! Tongue

Does Sunderland have enough room for all the extra buses though? 


PVR for the E's is 15 
The current 30 interworks with the 10/11
X20 is a 1 PVR


would say around 17/18 more buses at Sunderland, currently they have 82 buses.

More than enough room.  The Wheatsheaf used to house upwards of 120 buses in the Busways days.
GuyParkRoyal   25 May 2019, 9:52 am
PB0002404/27 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Four Lane Ends to Central Station or Metrocentre
Service number: 678 (6, 7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/340 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Newbiggin Hall - Westerhope
Service number: N88 (N88)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/339 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to West Road - West Denton
Service number: N40 (N40)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/338 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Walker - Byker
Service number: N39 (N39)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/337 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Fawdon - Kenton
Service number: N30 (N30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/336 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Heaton and Coach Lane
Service number: N1 (N1)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019
Michael   25 May 2019, 9:56 am
(25 May 2019, 9:52 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0002404/27 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Four Lane Ends to Central Station or Metrocentre
Service number: 678 (6, 7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/340 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Newbiggin Hall - Westerhope
Service number: N88 (N88)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/339 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to West Road - West Denton
Service number: N40 (N40)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/338 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Walker - Byker
Service number: N39 (N39)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/337 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Fawdon - Kenton
Service number: N30 (N30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

PB0002404/336 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle to Heaton and Coach Lane
Service number: N1 (N1)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2019

That was quick.... thought they would of gave at least another year, unless they're changing the routes?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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citaro5284   25 May 2019, 2:20 pm
(25 May 2019, 9:56 am)Michael wrote That was quick.... thought they would of gave at least another year, unless they're changing the routes?

Probably not much call for them when the students all go home for the summer.
V514DFT   25 May 2019, 10:17 pm
Is it permanent or is it just a thing where they stop em running whilst the students are away

Kind Regards
Tez
Jimmi   25 May 2019, 10:23 pm
(25 May 2019, 10:17 pm)V514DFT wrote Is it permanent or is it just a thing where they stop em running whilst the students are away
Coming off permanently, supposedly numbers haven't been great
V514DFT   26 May 2019, 11:23 am
(25 May 2019, 10:23 pm)Jimmi wrote Coming off permanently, supposedly numbers haven't been great

Ahh well never mind,tbh i didnt think it would last i suppose a factor of the night buses failures would be that people have became customed to either catching the last bus home or taking a taxi,some even get that bladdered in town that before they know it the Metro is on

Kind Regards
Tez
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Michael   06 Jun 2019, 6:28 am
Stll nothing on the Stagecoach site about the upcoming changes in South Shields... change on the 23rd

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RBZ 5459   12 Jun 2019, 10:30 am

(06 Jun 2019, 6:28 am)Michael wrote Stll nothing on the Stagecoach site about the upcoming changes in South Shields... change on the 23rd


Changes have now gone up this morning: 

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-12/06/2019-11:15:15:723



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Michael   18 Jun 2019, 5:08 pm
Changes to Services 1, 6, 7, 8, N1, N30, N39, N40, N88


From Sunday 7 July 2019, there will be some changes to services.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:16:56:072

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
NewcastleOne   18 Jun 2019, 9:30 pm

(18 Jun 2019, 5:08 pm)Michael wrote Changes to Services 1, 6, 7, 8, N1, N30, N39, N40, N88


From Sunday 7 July 2019, there will be some changes to services.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:16:56:072

Sad to see the night buses go at least it shows Stagecoach willing to try things.

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RBZ 5459   19 Jun 2019, 8:01 am

(18 Jun 2019, 9:30 pm)NewcastleOne wrote

Sad to see the night buses go at least it shows Stagecoach willing to try things.



Think the main problem was that the likes of the N1, N39 and N40 in particular served places that you can easily get a taxi too at a reasonable cost. Plus if there's four people splitting a taxi fare, the taxi would win over cost on most. Believe the N88 did ok, which was probably down to it serving outside of the main city.



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Kuyoyo   26 Jun 2019, 9:40 am
PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/74 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/29 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to South Shields The Lonnen
Service number: 12ss (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Brockley whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/23 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Whiteleas Estate
Service number: 17 (17)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/21 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Biddick Hall Estate
Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

CSV Data for all are 'Route and timetable change due to the opening of the new Bus Interchange'
deanmachine   26 Jun 2019, 10:03 pm

(26 Jun 2019, 9:40 am)Kuyoyo wrote PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/74 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/29 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to South Shields The Lonnen
Service number: 12ss (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Brockley whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/23 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Whiteleas Estate
Service number: 17 (17)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

PB0002404/21 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Biddick Hall Estate
Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Aug 2019

CSV Data for all are 'Route and timetable change due to the opening of the new Bus Interchange'


Does it say if any of them are using the new bus station?

LVK 404L   28 Jun 2019, 7:39 pm

(26 Jun 2019, 10:03 pm)deanmachine wrote


Does it say if any of them are using the new bus station?



Put it this way if they do not use the bus station there is going to be at least 75% of the new station not in use. So I'm guessing as they use the old station the will move to the new one. Hence the change on VOSA

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Michael   29 Jun 2019, 11:17 am
What are they doing with the spare E400's from the 1?, when the PVR drops for the summer, as it drops by 3.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
S830OFT   29 Jun 2019, 11:50 am

(29 Jun 2019, 11:17 am)Michael wrote What are they doing with the spare E400's from the 1?, when the PVR drops for the summer, as it drops by 3.

One tends to transfer to Shields, well has for the past two years for the Es PVR increase, although with Sunderland operating these services I am not sure if they will receive an additional decker.



Michael   29 Jun 2019, 12:00 pm
(29 Jun 2019, 11:50 am)S830OFT wrote

One tends to transfer to Shields, well has for the past two years for the Es PVR increase, although with Sunderland operating these services I am not sure if they will receive an additional decker.


Thanks, hopefully an extra moves to Sunderland then.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
JM03   29 Jun 2019, 8:36 pm

(29 Jun 2019, 12:00 pm)Michael wrote Thanks, hopefully an extra moves to Sunderland then.

Will guarantee they will take up the whole PVR on the X24 some days. The PVR is 3

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Michael   20 Jul 2019, 10:52 am
Looking to see if i can see any of the new school contracts on VOSA, when i spot this:

Registration number PB0002404/345
Licence Number PB0002404
Variation number 0
Status New
Service number. 939, 939
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Sunderland Park Lane
Finish point Team Valley North End
Via
Date received 19 Jul 2019
Effective date 01 Sep 2019
End date
Supported by subsidies? In Part
Local authorities covered by route Nexus (Tyne & Wear)
TAOs covered by route North East of England

I would imagine Sunderland would run this?

---------------

More changes on the 1st September:


PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (12, 13, 3) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Newcastle City Centre

PB0002404/46
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Four Lane Ends Walker

PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law
PB0002404/4

Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22, 22X) Cobalt Throckley

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
AIG20   20 Jul 2019, 7:41 pm

The service changes for the Air Show next weekend have been posted:

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:00:45:119

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