(15 Feb 2021, 3:30 pm)Storx wrote They'll still be out, won't have had time to process them yet . Got to have one in each angle and 5 different spots. Plus the same for all the Metro Replacements aswell.https://www.flickr.com/photos/ten6083/
(15 Feb 2021, 8:00 pm)mb134 wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/ten6083/
This geezer was snapping the pink Citaros in Washington, and the X9/X10 coaches/Metro replacements in Felling today. Canny daily exercise that mind. Looking at his post history I'm assuming he's training for the next GNR.
(15 Feb 2021, 8:09 pm)Storx wrote I think he's going for a walk around Britain where he's been haha. Prudhoe, Rowlands Gill, Sunderland, Washington, Felling, Newcastle. Just hope to god he's driving to these places otherwise he's taking the piss though really. It's not as if Felling to Washington is one bus either.2 buses but quicker than 56 to Newcastle
(15 Feb 2021, 8:09 pm)Storx wrote I think he's going for a walk around Britain where he's been haha. Prudhoe, Rowlands Gill, Sunderland, Washington, Felling, Newcastle. Just hope to god he's driving to these places otherwise he's taking the piss though really. It's not as if Felling to Washington is one bus either.
(16 Feb 2021, 2:41 pm)Jimmi wrote He's driving. Claiming to be "essential food shopping" yesterday on all photos. Why someone in Prudhoe has to do "food shopping" in Concord/Washington 3-4 times a week is beyond me... [emoji848]
I'm sick of the generalised comments that enthusiasts (particularly younger ones) are all breaking the rules, it's either assumed we are because many of the younger enthusiasts are seen as "window lickers" or because of instances like this. I did think about a quick drive to Stockton yesterday to photo one or two of the coaches but couldn't justify it and I am in a bad enough state mentally right now from this lockdown without people jumping down my throat if I were to do so.
(16 Feb 2021, 4:22 pm)streetdeckfan wrote If you're driving around taking photos, not going near anyone else, then you're posing no more of a risk than if you sat at home.
(17 Feb 2021, 8:19 am)omnicity4659 wrote If he's going out for the sole purpose of photography, then yes it would be an issue legally.
However, the catchily named Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) Regulations 2020 don't define "local" nor "exercise". As long as he is "exercising" and/or "food shopping" in England then there isn't a problem by law.*
I'm not exactly impressed that people are still going out to take photos, perhaps it's morally wrong, but there's certainly nothing wrong legally - as long as he's doing what's allowed in the regulations too.
*GOV.UK shows heavily worded (optional) guidance mixed with law. If you're wanting to check the actual law, visit legislation.gov.uk.
(17 Feb 2021, 8:19 am)omnicity4659 wrote If he's going out for the sole purpose of photography, then yes it would be an issue legally.
However, the catchily named Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) Regulations 2020 don't define "local" nor "exercise". As long as he is "exercising" and/or "food shopping" in England then there isn't a problem by law.*
I'm not exactly impressed that people are still going out to take photos, perhaps it's morally wrong, but there's certainly nothing wrong legally - as long as he's doing what's allowed in the regulations too.
*GOV.UK shows heavily worded (optional) guidance mixed with law. If you're wanting to check the actual law, visit legislation.gov.uk.
(17 Feb 2021, 1:04 pm)Rapidsnap wrote How does someone define what local means, everyone has different ideas on the meaning. I define local as somewhere within a 30 minute drive of my house, which is an area bordered roughly by Ashington / Morpeth, Hexham (on a good day), Dalton Park / CLS.
(17 Feb 2021, 11:45 am)streetdeckfan wrote When you look at the restrictions, you really need to check if they say you 'should' do something, or 'must' do something. There's a massive legal difference between the two.
"You should minimise time spent outside your home, but you can leave your home to exercise. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area"
Basically, legally you can ignore all of that.
You can spend as much time as you want outside of your home (as long as it's for one of the permitted reasons), you can leave the house as many times as you want, and you can leave your 'local area'.
But how do you define your local area? I'm in Bishop, does that mean I can't go to Durham or Darlington, or even Spennymoor? Or does staying within County Durham count as 'local'.
Or, since the councils seem to love the idea of the North East acting as one when it comes to applying restrictions, does that mean I can go to Newcastle?
Then we also have the loophole of leaving home for 'work'.
If I decide I want to go self employed as a transport photographer, and set myself up as a sole trader.
I'm technically doing 'work', so does that mean it's alright to go out and take photos of buses?
(17 Feb 2021, 1:32 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Like I say, it all comes down to using your common sense, and being consistent.
(17 Feb 2021, 1:32 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Hypothetically, if I drove all the way to Newcastle to go to Tesco instead of going to the one in Bishop, but I only ever do my shopping there once a week, am I not less of a problem than someone who goes to the shops locally every night to get all the reduced items?
(17 Feb 2021, 7:45 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote The guidance defines what they mean by local (someone quoted it a few messages up this page) and it is actually significanly more restrictive than all the examples you have given. Basically, it would mean your neighbourhood within Bishop, or, at a push, the whole of Bishop itself.
Sadly no amount of legislation is ever going to cover every eventuality and as long as people look for and exploit loopholes, we will continue to pingpong in and out of lockdowns and tiered restrictions. The basic principle of 'is it essential' really isn't hard to grasp. Regardless of how clever an argument someone can make around why they aren't technically in breech of the letter of the regulations, going out for non-essential purposes (which standing around photographing buses most certainly is) is very clearly the opposite of the public health message and shows a lack of any regard for social responsibility.
(17 Feb 2021, 10:18 pm)Adrian wrote Some people have little choice but to do this BTW.