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Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
From Nov 3, X45 towards Newcastle will be re-routed straight down Blackhill bank (rather than along Benfieldside Road) and stop at Shotley Bridge Kings Head rather than Snows Green Road.

X45 towards Consett is unaffected and will continue to serve Benfieldside Road.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(31 Oct 2019, 6:57 pm)jgr wrote From Nov 3, X45 towards Newcastle will be re-routed straight down Blackhill bank (rather than along Benfieldside Road) and stop at Shotley Bridge Kings Head rather than Snows Green Road.

X45 towards Consett is unaffected and will continue to serve Benfieldside Road.


Do you have a link for that?, X5 and X15 will operate on a circular route up and down Blackhill bank but no internal comms about the X45.

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(31 Oct 2019, 9:27 pm)Stanleyone wrote Do you have a link for that?, X5 and X15 will operate on a circular route up and down Blackhill bank but no internal comms about the X45.

The info is not on the GNE website (which is odd). However, local timetables, Traveline journey planner and GNE social media have confirmed this is the case.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(31 Oct 2019, 6:57 pm)jgr wrote From Nov 3, X45 towards Newcastle will be re-routed straight down Blackhill bank (rather than along Benfieldside Road) and stop at Shotley Bridge Kings Head rather than Snows Green Road.

X45 towards Consett is unaffected and will continue to serve Benfieldside Road.


In that cast, run the X46 up Snows Green, Elm Park, Medomsley, Longclose Bank and rejoin main route at Hamsterley Mill.  Slots back in to the timetable as is.  Then put the V9 back where it was.  Elm Park covered and potential new pax from Medomsley.

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(01 Nov 2019, 10:41 am)jgr wrote The info is not on the GNE website (which is odd). However, local timetables, Traveline journey planner and GNE social media have confirmed this is the case.
Where on GNE social media has this been confirmed?

I don't think the route of this service is being revised.

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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(01 Nov 2019, 8:35 pm)Dan wrote Where on GNE social media has this been confirmed?

I don't think the route of this service is being revised.

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Nothing posted on our fb page, nothing on county Durham transport page and nothing in the duty boards posted today either. It would seem rather strange to change things only 1 way as well.


(01 Nov 2019, 8:14 pm)Michael wrote Martijn Gilbert
@MartijnGNE
Great to meet
@LauraPidcockMP
in Consett this afternoon to talk about local buses including further improvements to young persons ticket eligibility and planned changes to the M6 to improve reliability and school journey capacity (full details soon). Major bus investment here too


Wonder if the M6 will be split?, also an additional X15 will operate from Lanchester replacing Gem Travel service to Consett Academy (but no return, current X15 timed at 15:15)

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(01 Nov 2019, 8:35 pm)Dan wrote Where on GNE social media has this been confirmed? I don't think the route of this service is being revised. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk


This was confirmed via a live chat.


The GNE app has also been updated with the new route when planning a journey.

Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(01 Nov 2019, 10:15 pm)Michael wrote Have all the Green Arrow Scania's been withdrawn now?


5227 was out yesterday.


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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(02 Nov 2019, 8:24 am)Milkytdi123 wrote 5227 was out yesterday.


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This is the last one.

5488/NK68FAU seems to be delayed for whatever reason. Was missing the whole of last week too.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(01 Nov 2019, 8:56 pm)Stanleyone wrote


Nothing posted on our fb page, nothing on county Durham transport page and nothing in the duty boards posted today either. It would seem rather strange to change things only 1 way as well.



Wonder if the M6 will be split?, also an additional X15 will operate from Lanchester replacing Gem Travel service to Consett Academy (but no return, current X15 timed at 15:15)



Its clear the M6 extension to Lanchester hasn't worked and is a mess to say the least.


M6 to Quaking Houses plus split at Stanley, restoring at least an hourly 30 makes sense.


Separately, the 6 is struggling, with timing issues plus reduction to hourly putting pressure on the 16 leading to unreliability in the Annfield Plain  area for both services.


The pre-29th July configuration worked better with reliable connection to X30 and X31 express services to Newcastle.


One per hour extension of expresses to Consett would be better with X31 and not X30, as X31 provides better commuter links to Gateshead.


X32 should start and finish at Consett, restoring Consett, Annfield Plain and Catchgate links to Tean Valley instead of the X30 during morning and evening commuter periods.

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(12 Nov 2019, 2:12 am)DH9 wrote


Its clear the M6 extension to Lanchester hasn't worked and is a mess to say the least.


M6 to Quaking Houses plus split at Stanley, restoring at least an hourly 30 makes sense.


Separately, the 6 is struggling, with timing issues plus reduction to hourly putting pressure on the 16 leading to unreliability in the Annfield Plain  area for both services.


The pre-29th July configuration worked better with reliable connection to X30 and X31 express services to Newcastle.


One per hour extension of expresses to Consett would be better with X31 and not X30, as X31 provides better commuter links to Gateshead.


X32 should start and finish at Consett, restoring Consett, Annfield Llain and Catchgate links to Tean Valley.



When they curtailed the X30/X31 at Stanley a few years back and introduced the 30, it didn't work initially. I would argue later down the line it did, and separating the route into 2 made sense at the time.


However when they decided to ditch that and extend a route back down to Lanchester that goes to the Metrocentre! While the link is a good one, the timings and overall service has been very poor. I'm sure it was done with good intent, but it seems a huge step backwards and I imagine a lot of the issues stem from around the Metrocentre with delays.


I'm not sure what the alternative is other than reintroduce the 30, or potentially introduce a route from Stanley to Durham Via Lanchester, Quaking houses etc  could have it run via Bearpark and the other surrounding villages rather than following the X5/X15 route, using a Solo perhaps?



RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

(12 Nov 2019, 8:32 am)Arcticrossy92 wrote


When they curtailed the X30/X31 at Stanley a few years back and introduced the 30, it didn't work initially. I would argue later down the line it did, and separating the route into 2 made sense at the time.


However when they decided to ditch that and extend a route back down to Lanchester that goes to the Metrocentre! While the link is a good one, the timings and overall service has been very poor. I'm sure it was done with good intent, but it seems a huge step backwards and I imagine a lot of the issues stem from around the Metrocentre with delays.


I'm not sure what the alternative is other than reintroduce the 30, or potentially introduce a route from Stanley to Durham Via Lanchester, Quaking houses etc  could have it run via Bearpark and the other surrounding villages rather than following the X5/X15 route, using a Solo perhaps?





The M6 link to Lanchester isn't that good if Metrocentre-bound, the journey is split at Stanley for most of the day.


Splitting and restoring at least an hourly 30 is most sensible.

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
https://www.facebook.com/466643470157543...333233?d=n&sfns=mo


Durham County Council are working on partially closing Stanley Bus Station after 6pm to try and reduce anti-social behaviour.

From 9 December, only stands G to K will be open, with the following changes:

Service M6 will depart from stand G
Service X30 towards Consett will depart from stand H
Services 6/6A towards Newcastle and 16/16A towards Consett will depart from stand J
Services 78/78A towards Consett will depart from stand K
Stand allocation before 6pm is unchanged.
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(05 Dec 2019, 8:22 pm)TEN 6083 wrote https://www.facebook.com/466643470157543...333233?d=n&sfns=mo


Durham County Council are working on partially closing Stanley Bus Station after 6pm to try and reduce anti-social behaviour.

From 9 December, only stands G to K will be open, with the following changes:

Service M6 will depart from stand G
Service X30 towards Consett will depart from stand H
Services 6/6A towards Newcastle and 16/16A towards Consett will depart from stand J
Services 78/78A towards Consett will depart from stand K
Stand allocation before 6pm is unchanged.
I'm not exactly sure what they're planning on doing to close it off.... the bait room and toilets are towards the earlier letters.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(05 Dec 2019, 8:23 pm)Jamie M wrote I'm not exactly sure what they're planning on doing to close it off.... the bait room and toilets are towards the earlier letters.
Knowing Durham council, it'll probably be some of those yellow plastic barriers!

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(05 Dec 2019, 8:23 pm)Jamie M wrote I'm not exactly sure what they're planning on doing to close it off.... the bait room and toilets are towards the earlier letters.
Shutters I understand with a key pad to allow access to the toilets
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
Not sure if this is the right place for this message, however it seems that when services return to "full levels" on the 10th April, the X7 won't be making a return and it'll just be the X6 on it's own. Rather sneaky of GNE not to inform passengers that a service has been cut by 50%.

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...6703523841
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:01 am)Adtrainsam wrote Not sure if this is the right place for this message, however it seems that when services return to "full levels" on the 10th April, the X7 won't be making a return and it'll just be the X6 on it's own. Rather sneaky of GNE not to inform passengers that a service has been cut by 50%.

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...6703523841
From Saturday 10 April, almost all Go North East services will be reintroduced to full levels of service in readiness for the reopening of non-essential retail and various leisure aspects from 12 April.

Key word  there being 'almost'!

I wonder if they have any intention of bringing back the 15 minute service between Newcastle and Durham on the X21. 
The cove vinyls on the B5s still have the 15 minute frequency so I'm guessing they may do at some point
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:05 am)streetdeckfan wrote Key word  there being 'almost'!

I wonder if they have any intention of bringing back the 15 minute service between Newcastle and Durham on the X21. 
The cove vinyls on the B5s still have the 15 minute frequency so I'm guessing they may do at some point
Noticed that! Thought GNE would have put an article out to say which services won't be though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the X21 wasn't every 15 minutes during the Summer & Autumn, whereas the X7 was still there. Like the X21, maybe they'll think about reintroducing after Covid...
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:11 am)Adtrainsam wrote Noticed that! Thought GNE would have put an article out to say which services won't be though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the X21 wasn't every 15 minutes during the Summer & Autumn, whereas the X7 was still there. Like the X21, maybe they'll think about reintroducing after Covid...

You're right, it wasn't. But the B5s were refurbed during that time and vinyls with the 15 minute frequency were installed.
If they weren't going to bring it back, I'd have thought they'd remove it and then replace the vinyl if plans changed, or even just add it over the top.

49/49A seems to be sticking to a 15 minute frequency
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:16 am)streetdeckfan wrote You're right, it wasn't. But the B5s were refurbed during that time and vinyls with the 15 minute frequency were installed.
If they weren't going to bring it back, I'd have thought they'd remove it and then replace the vinyl if plans changed, or even just add it over the top.

49/49A seems to be sticking to a 15 minute frequency
Wasnt it every 15mins with 2 terminating at durham. Iirc that was the reason for ordering 2 extra Streetdecks for the X21
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:26 am)JP6004 wrote Wasnt it every 15mins with 2 terminating at durham. Iirc that was the reason for ordering 2 extra Streetdecks for the X21

Indeed.
It's a shame we didn't get any of the new StreetDecks, if they bring back the Newcastle-Durham shorts it'll once again be nigh on impossible to tell which ones continue on to Bishop with the regular height displays.
Oh, and they'd actually be comfortable!
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(31 Mar 2021, 10:38 am)streetdeckfan wrote Indeed.
It's a shame we didn't get any of the new StreetDecks, if they bring back the Newcastle-Durham shorts it'll once again be nigh on impossible to tell which ones continue on to Bishop with the regular height displays.
Oh, and they'd actually be comfortable!
Yea the one son the X1 are very comfortable and cosy. Dont think I've been on one since January
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(31 Mar 2021, 10:16 am)S813 FVK wrote The 13 looks to be a gonner too.
So given that it interworked with the 25, the 25 will now be standalone with a PVR of 6x?

Will that explain the likely reason behind the movements of the following?
- 6001/49/50 - Now spare
- 6084/85/86 - 3x free (PVR of TVT is 16x with 3x ex TTX)
- 6099 - Free (Cobalt normal PVR is now 16x)

With the above, that could then release 6043-48

(31 Mar 2021, 6:50 pm)L469 YVK wrote So given that it interworked with the 25, the 25 will now be standalone with a PVR of 6x?

Will that explain the likely reason behind the movements of the following?
- 6001/49/50 - Now spare
- 6084/85/86 - 3x free with 56 PVR reduction (PVR of TVT is 16x with 3x ex TTX)
- 6099 - Free (Cobalt normal PVR is now 16x)

With the above, that could then release 6043-48
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(31 Mar 2021, 6:50 pm)L469 YVK wrote So given that it interworked with the 25, the 25 will now be standalone with a PVR of 6x?

Will that explain the likely reason behind the movements of the following?
- 6001/49/50 - Now spare
- 6084/85/86 - 3x free (PVR of TVT is 16x with 3x ex TTX)
- 6099 - Free (Cobalt normal PVR is now 16x)

With the above, that could then release 6043-48


Worth baring in mind that only 11 (enough for the 27 on it's own) B9s are 'Crusader' branded for a total PVR of 14 across both routes. This means 3 unbranded B9s that would be assumed 'spare' are actually required to make up the numbers.
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(31 Mar 2021, 7:20 pm)S813 FVK wrote Worth baring in mind that only 11 (enough for the 27 on it's own) B9s are 'Crusader' branded for a total PVR of 14 across both routes. This means 3 unbranded B9s that would be assumed 'spare' are actually required to make up the numbers.

I wonder if the 26 will be reconfigured... again. They surely would have known before painting that this would have been the case.