The following E400's are shown as withdrawn with Go-Ahead London.

E1 - SN06 BNA
E2 - SN06 BNB
E3 - SN06 BND
E4 - SN06 BNE
E5 - SN06 BNF
E6 - SN06 BNJ
E7 - SN06 BNK
E8 - SN06 BNL
E9 - SN06 BNO
E10 - SN06 BNU
E11 - SN06 BNV
E12 - SN06 BNX
E13 - SN06 BNY
E14 - SN06 BNZ
E15 - SN06 BOF
E16 - LX06 EZL
E17 - LX06 EZM
E18 - LX06 EZN
E19 - LX06 EZO
E20 - LX06 EZP
E21 - LX06 EZR
E22 - LX06 EZS
E23 - LX06 EZT
E24 - LX06 EYY
E25 - LX06 EYZ
E26 - LX06 EZA
E27 - LX06 EZB
E28 - LX06 EZC
E29 - LX06 EZD
E30 - LX06 EZE
E31 - LX06 EZF
E32 - LX06 EZG
E33 - LX06 EZH
E34 - LX06 ECT
E35 - LX06 ECV
E36 - LX06 FKL
E37 - LX06 FKM
E43 - LX56 ETJ
E54 - LX56 EUB

EnsignBus Sales are also selling a number of 09 Plate (Euro 6) E400 which were previously with Abellio London - https://www.ensignbus.com/2009-enviro-400-euro-6.html

If there is then surely these will be to replace the 15 remaining Scania Omnidekka's 3995/6126-29/6131-32/6134-35/6140-6148 which will need withdrawing ahead of the Emission Zone being introduced given the Omnidekka's are allocated between Riverside/Percy Main.

I do wonder if the Ex-London B7TL Gemini's 6901-6919 will also be withdrawn, these are split between Riverside and Consett at the moment.

Might be to also replace the 06 G1's. 

Tbh you could send some of the Euro 6's to Deptford as spares. But if GNE do get them I wonder if they'll re-do the interior. 

When does the Low Emission zone come in?

Might be to also replace the 06 G1's. 

Tbh you could send some of the Euro 6's to Deptford as spares. But if GNE do get them I wonder if they'll re-do the interior. 

When does the Low Emission zone come in?

With them being Ex London I believe they will already be E6. I'd assume the B7s going and them taking there place or spares at depots that run into Newcastle

Covid vaccination solo has finished its Covid duties:

https://twitter.com/newcastlegps/status/...14337?s=21&t=78s8YVSyATPCwRe0HT2gGQ

The following E400's are shown as withdrawn with Go-Ahead London.

E1 - SN06 BNA
E2 - SN06 BNB
E3 - SN06 BND
E4 - SN06 BNE
E5 - SN06 BNF
E6 - SN06 BNJ
E7 - SN06 BNK
E8 - SN06 BNL
E9 - SN06 BNO
E10 - SN06 BNU
E11 - SN06 BNV
E12 - SN06 BNX
E13 - SN06 BNY
E14 - SN06 BNZ
E15 - SN06 BOF
E16 - LX06 EZL
E17 - LX06 EZM
E18 - LX06 EZN
E19 - LX06 EZO
E20 - LX06 EZP
E21 - LX06 EZR
E22 - LX06 EZS
E23 - LX06 EZT
E24 - LX06 EYY
E25 - LX06 EYZ
E26 - LX06 EZA
E27 - LX06 EZB
E28 - LX06 EZC
E29 - LX06 EZD
E30 - LX06 EZE
E31 - LX06 EZF
E32 - LX06 EZG
E33 - LX06 EZH
E34 - LX06 ECT
E35 - LX06 ECV
E36 - LX06 FKL
E37 - LX06 FKM
E43 - LX56 ETJ
E54 - LX56 EUB

EnsignBus Sales are also selling a number of 09 Plate (Euro 6) E400 which were previously with Abellio London - https://www.ensignbus.com/2009-enviro-400-euro-6.html

In my opinion it seems highly unlikely it's any of these.  Most of the SN06 batch still seem to be in use with GAL's commercial fleet. LX06 EYZ and EZA/B/C are with See London By Night. the rest of the LX06 batch is with Plymouth Citybus alongside LX56 EUB, but I have no idea where ETJ is.

As for the Abellio batch, I doubt it'd be any of these either, as most if not all of those have been sold already (19 of them are with The Green Bus of Birmingham)

One time convertiable Scania N94UD / ELC Omnidekka 3996 which has previously being used as a Christmas Tree at Riverside has now departed, no doubt to the scrapyard.

Covid vaccination solo has finished its Covid duties:

https://twitter.com/newcastlegps/status/...14337?s=21&t=78s8YVSyATPCwRe0HT2gGQ

I wonder if it will return to it's previous duties

I wonder if it will return to it's previous duties

Probably not as the 41/41A uses streetlites now,not sure about the 19,but last i heard was that the little coasters are no more

The last little coaster I saw was sitting in Peterlee bus station, at the weekend, on staff shuttles.

Go North East 643 / NL63 XZP by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Go North East 645 / NL63 XZS by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Have 643/645 transferred to Hexham permanently or are they on loan from Consett ?


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So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.

So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.

Really? The 684 is usually quite empty, and doesn't spend long in Eldon Square. Just 1 bus per hour, mostly a Solo allocated, suggests the service isn't very popular. Any ideas where these passengers were going? Usually anyone getting on at Eldon Square is going to either Throckley or Hexham and usually nobody gets on after Eldon Square for quite some distance and likewise nobody alights. For the most part I only use the 684 between Eldon Square and Denton Burn, and I have seen people get on in Fenham before.

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Go North East 643 / NL63 XZP by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Go North East 645 / NL63 XZS by kieron mathews, on Flickr

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645 has permanently transferred from Consett to Hexham. Not sure about 643.

Really? The 684 is usually quite empty, and doesn't spend long in Eldon Square. Just 1 bus per hour, mostly a Solo allocated, suggests the service isn't very popular. Any ideas where these passengers were going? Usually anyone getting on at Eldon Square is going to either Throckley or Hexham and usually nobody gets on after Eldon Square for quite some distance and likewise nobody alights. For the most part I only use the 684 between Eldon Square and Denton Burn, and I have seen people get on in Fenham before.

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645 has permanently transferred from Consett to Hexham. Not sure about 643.

I only used it as far as the General Hospital as I was just dropping some stuff off for work, but judging by the conversations I was eavesdropping on, it's been getting quite busy recently. A few of the passengers were complaining about how busy it's been.
I wouldn't even say it's because of the school holidays as I think I was one of the youngest people on the bus!

So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.

Some of the Versa's at Hexham seem to be VOR. I'm assuming, if these are staying at Hexham, it will be to see off the last 2 61 plates which are hanging on when the rest of the batch including newer ones have been withdrawn rather than the Versa's.

So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.

Since the service changes the Hexham interworking pattern sees 3 Versa's allocated to the 680, 688 and even hour 684's from Hexham while 3 Solo's are allocated to the AD122, 687 and odd hour 684's from Hexham during the day. Peak times slightly more jumbled as the bus used on the 686 during the day comes into play (and operates the afternoon X85). Solo's are standalone now on the 74, 681, 686 and 689. 

It seems one of those Versa boards has been allocated a Solo every day for the past week and a bit, presumably because 5377 and 78 are both off road.

I only used it as far as the General Hospital as I was just dropping some stuff off for work, but judging by the conversations I was eavesdropping on, it's been getting quite busy recently. A few of the passengers were complaining about how busy it's been.
I wouldn't even say it's because of the school holidays as I think I was one of the youngest people on the bus!

Ah, usually the 47 is the best service for the General Hospital. That or the X82.

I don't see why the 684 would be particularly busy, as it duplicates bus and train services and doesn't offer many connecting GNE services.

Ah, usually the 47 is the best service for the General Hospital. That or the X82.

I don't see why the 684 would be particularly busy, as it duplicates bus and train services and doesn't offer many connecting GNE services.

I had a GNE ticket so would have used it regardless. But, having said that, it genuinely was the fastest connection from the X21 as I think I only had a 3 minute wait.

You say it doesn't offer many connecting GNE services, but that's assuming the people are travelling towards Hexham as their initial journey.
If they're on their return journey, then they have had connecting GNE services to just about anywhere they could want from Eldon Square.

I had a GNE ticket so would have used it regardless. But, having said that, it genuinely was the fastest connection from the X21 as I think I only had a 3 minute wait.

You say it doesn't offer many connecting GNE services, but that's assuming the people are travelling towards Hexham as their initial journey.
If they're on their return journey, then they have had connecting GNE services to just about anywhere they could want from Eldon Square.

Of course you would have a GNE ticket as the X21 is your local service. A 3 minute wait is amazing.

Northumberland County Council could connect the 684/74 as they fund both services and they run either side of Fenham, Hexham and I'm sure other places along the route. 

The more connections the better. Although there are too many Stagecoach routes in Fenham/Denton Burn/West Denton. Hopefully the 684 will continue to exist in the long term, but I doubt it will.

For the most part - even pre-COVID most X84/684 journeys could comfortably be allocated a solo without any issues - sure, sometimes they would have been fuller - but is that a bad thing?

Pre-COVID you had 3 what I would call TWIRLY expresses - the 9.40 & 10.40 from Hexham, X85 and the 2-ish X84/X85 from Newcastle (TWIRLYs wanting to get home before the schools kicked out).  Patronage disappeared at these times and never really came back after this.  There was a bit of a return, and some sort of loyalty when the deckers were on, but nowhere near the numbers they used to get.  Could sometimes leave Hexham and be full and standing by Corbridge - especially if the 685 was missing.

Passengers from Newcastle varied - moreso when an X82 was missing - and too be honest a fair few got the X84 as it was cheaper to Throckley than both the X82 or the 685.

Again the school time x84s had more of a load, but this again varied year on year and as term goes on the numbers get less.  684 still connected Ovington/Ovingham/Wylam both ways, but the more senior passengers just don't travel the same way they did pre-COVID.  Peak afternoon X85s used to be busy, but again post covid - people worked from home and never returned in the same numbers.

This time of year there's usually more teenagers travelling down to wylam/Ovingham to go down the river for the day from NCL way - they can often travel in groups of a dozen or more, but asides that there's little difference otherwise.

Citaro 5281 collected from Saltmeadows:

https://flic.kr/p/2nDPR8h

What is meant to be allocated to the 41/41A, is it the 83.. batch of streetlites? As there are currently 4 OmniDekka's on it.

5/9/26/24 is a PVR 18. 
5411-5428= 18 (3-4x Spare 5439-40 + others)
20 PVR 9
5429-5437 (1x Spare 5438)
60 
5370-5376 (5369 Spare) PVR 7 (1x Spare 5369)
61
5327, 5334-36 PVR 4 (1x Spare 5290)
X20 
5328-5333 PVR 6 (1x Spare 5440)
35
5292-5297, 5304 PVR 7/8 Branded. (1x Make PVR 5323, 2-4x Spare 5285-5288)
65
5391-5394 (1x Spare 5441)
Deptford School Buses PVR 3 (5025 Decker/4274 Coach/X62/807/877 Single Decker)
56
6088-6098 PVR 11 (2x Spare 6086-6087)
39 
673-679 + 2 Need Painting (672-680) (1-2x Spare 656-666) 
2/2A
8329-8330-8332-8338 (1-2x Spare 8331 & X)
Peterlee Locals + X6 
PVR 6 653-659 (1x Spare 659)

Spares
5285-5288,5290
5323-5326 (-24-26 have been off for over a month)
5438-5441 
664-666
647-648 
6086-6087
3943 (Been off for weeks) - Not enough spares at Deptford. Or Consett soon.
8331

What is meant to be allocated to the 41/41A, is it the 83.. batch of streetlites? As there are currently 4 OmniDekka's on it.

Yes - for now, at least.


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Yes - for now, at least.


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Thanks, Versa's or Solo's will probably end up on the route.

5/9/26/24 is a PVR 18. 
5411-5428= 18 (3-4x Spare 5439-40 + others)
20 PVR 9
5429-5437 (1x Spare 5438)
60 
5370-5376 (5369 Spare) PVR 7 (1x Spare 5369)
61
5327, 5334-36 PVR 4 (1x Spare 5290)
X20 
5328-5333 PVR 6 (1x Spare 5440)
35
5292-5297, 5304 PVR 7/8 Branded. (1x Make PVR 5323, 2-4x Spare 5285-5288)
65
5391-5394 (1x Spare 5441)
Deptford School Buses PVR 3 (5025 Decker/4274 Coach/X62/807/877 Single Decker)
56
6088-6098 PVR 11 (2x Spare 6086-6087)
39 
673-679 + 2 Need Painting (672-680) (1-2x Spare 656-666) 
2/2A
8329-8330-8332-8338 (1-2x Spare 8331 & X)
Peterlee Locals + X6 
PVR 6 653-659 (1x Spare 659)

Spares
5285-5288,5290
5323-5326 (-24-26 have been off for over a month)
5438-5441 
664-666
647-648 
6086-6087
3943 (Been off for weeks) - Not enough spares at Deptford. Or Consett soon.
8331

Is this predictions here as for some reason I have a feeling all the Versa's might end up at Deptford.

The Quaylink ones doing the 61 and X20, the 10 plate ones doing the 35 with all the Merc's withdrawn other than the 4 batch.

There's potentially 17 buses, coming into Riverside (Streetdeck's + Electrics), all the Versa's is 20 buses out.

Whatever does the 49/49A long term will be Euro 6 imo though otherwise you'll have a fleet of buses for the 49/49A which can't be used on anything else now the 67/69 are gone.

Is this predictions here as for some reason I have a feeling all the Versa's might end up at Deptford.

The Quaylink ones doing the 61 and X20, the 10 plate ones doing the 35 with all the Merc's withdrawn other than the 4 batch.

There's potentially 17 buses, coming into Riverside (Streetdeck's + Electrics), all the Versa's is 20 buses out.

Whatever does the 49/49A long term will be Euro 6 imo though otherwise you'll have a fleet of buses for the 49/49A which can't be used on anything else now the 67/69 are gone.

49/49A/X66. 
But that means 5501-5504,09,10. Which are branded for the X66 would be moving. ASwell i think the 49/49A should be branded, but I doubt GNE have 12 Euro 6 Spare for the 49/49A & X66. 
Tho 5501-5504 would suit the 61 imo really well. 

Quaylink Versa's will probably be kept at Riverside, for the 49/49A/X66 aswell as spares but also 41/41A need something permanently its meant to have 8343-46 however it seems they don't have any atm, with 8339-41 should be on the 34. But they're currently at Deptford as they don't have enough spares at all, and that is with only 1-2 buses off a PVR 18 route.

Not sure if it's been hypothesised yet but I have a sneaking suspicion the 6 and 12 will be moving to Consett from September.

I had the idea initially as most of the services registered in that initial batch of September changes were ones that are moving depots. Also because Lanchester would not be that far away from Consett for driver change overs.

Then there's been a couple of things on BusTimes that seem to suggest it. Firstly all the Streetlites allocated to Consett have their depot shown as '6 and 12' rather than CT or Consett, which seems odd, although I know it's not the most trustworthy of websites, someone could be hinting at something.

Secondly on Wednesday, 8294 did a little jaunt from Chester depot, it ran to Lanchester then followed the route of the 6 to Newcastle and then the route of the 12 to Winlaton before heading back via the 12 and 6 route to Lanchester and back to Chester. As I'm assuming relatively few of the Chester drivers would wanna move to Riverside, perhaps the 6 and 12 are moving to Consett which the ex-Chester drivers will now run, with Riverside drivers being trained up on the 21.

Not sure if it's been hypothesised yet but I have a sneaking suspicion the 6 and 12 will be moving to Consett from September.

I had the idea initially as most of the services registered in that initial batch of September changes were ones that are moving depots. Also because Lanchester would not be that far away from Consett for driver change overs.

Then there's been a couple of things on BusTimes that seem to suggest it. Firstly all the Streetlites allocated to Consett have their depot shown as '6 and 12' rather than CT or Consett, which seems odd, although I know it's not the most trustworthy of websites, someone could be hinting at something.

Secondly on Wednesday, 8294 did a little jaunt from Chester depot, it ran to Lanchester then followed the route of the 6 to Newcastle and then the route of the 12 to Winlaton before heading back via the 12 and 6 route to Lanchester and back to Chester. As I'm assuming relatively few of the Chester drivers would wanna move to Riverside, perhaps the 6 and 12 are moving to Consett which the ex-Chester drivers will now run, with Riverside drivers being trained up on the 21.

I think we will see a few services moving depots, especially at Washington there isn't enough Room, GNE just park all their services on the street and have done for years, however with the 34/CLS Routes if they go to Washington something will have to give, it could be the X1 or 4. 

Either could make sense, you split the 2/2A, so Sunderland to Washington and X1 drivers do a switch over with the 2/2A & 39B which is 5 buses an hour which is what the X1 should be going back to, or the 4 which is 4 buses per hour which would make change overs much easier.

Not sure if it's been hypothesised yet but I have a sneaking suspicion the 6 and 12 will be moving to Consett from September.

I had the idea initially as most of the services registered in that initial batch of September changes were ones that are moving depots. Also because Lanchester would not be that far away from Consett for driver change overs.

Then there's been a couple of things on BusTimes that seem to suggest it. Firstly all the Streetlites allocated to Consett have their depot shown as '6 and 12' rather than CT or Consett, which seems odd, although I know it's not the most trustworthy of websites, someone could be hinting at something.

Secondly on Wednesday, 8294 did a little jaunt from Chester depot, it ran to Lanchester then followed the route of the 6 to Newcastle and then the route of the 12 to Winlaton before heading back via the 12 and 6 route to Lanchester and back to Chester. As I'm assuming relatively few of the Chester drivers would wanna move to Riverside, perhaps the 6 and 12 are moving to Consett which the ex-Chester drivers will now run, with Riverside drivers being trained up on the 21.

8342 had been used on Wednesday by Consett for Driver Training coming into Newcastle via 6/12 route which would tie into what you've said, 8342 was also seen in service today on the 78.

49/49A/X66. 
But that means 5501-5504,09,10. Which are branded for the X66 would be moving. ASwell i think the 49/49A should be branded, but I doubt GNE have 12 Euro 6 Spare for the 49/49A & X66. 
Tho 5501-5504 would suit the 61 imo really well. 

Quaylink Versa's will probably be kept at Riverside, for the 49/49A/X66 aswell as spares but also 41/41A need something permanently its meant to have 8343-46 however it seems they don't have any atm, with 8339-41 should be on the 34. But they're currently at Deptford as they don't have enough spares at all, and that is with only 1-2 buses off a PVR 18 route.

See I can't see the Versa's on the 49/49A. The Versa's got a decent refurb and arguably would be better on a frontline service like the X20. The Merc's are also expensive to run and finished hence why there's shortages at Deptford, if you moved all the Versa's you'd have 2 spare for them with the 4/5 Streetlite's it's quite a lot of spare singles that.

Who knows tbh, I do think they'll focus on getting the 08/58/10 Merc's and the remaining 09 Versa's with the displacements though so something will end up at Deptford, it's just what.

Btw I think everything left at CLS now will end at Consett other than the 21/X21 which will end up at Riverside rather than them going to Washington including the 34/34A.