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Andreos1   25 Jan 2014, 9:43 pm
(25 Jan 2014, 9:35 pm)busman101 wrote One of these type of trolleys........................

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So you got off the bus a stop early, cos you were concerned that a group of old biddies were too rowdy?

It isn't FPF policy to kidnap bus company employees and hide them in old biddy shopping trollies, incase you were worried about that.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
MrFozz   25 Jan 2014, 10:04 pm
The thing with the FPF is, they get a hard time, but in reality there issue is not with us, the passengers, and as long as you keep your nut down, safe passage will be granted everytime, BUT poke them with a stick and the big dog will be let loose!!!

Avenue Vivian on the other hand, they are splinter group, there evil, there was not so well known case a few years ago where somebody was found in a back garden having been found under a mountain of Metro Newspapers, there presence is like that of certain dissident groups in Ulster, in that, they are there, they always will be, but have very little wipespread support, I was once told there M.O. is supposedly callously running over peoples feet with shopping trollies and mobility scooters, Although I have not got off a bus there to find out
Adrian   25 Jan 2014, 10:50 pm
(25 Jan 2014, 9:23 pm)Davey Bowyer wrote The 309 is doing really well just as it's about to get an upgrade. But, what could GNE do to boost passenger numbers between Blyth and Rake Lane travelling to between Station Road and Newcastle? Despite the new Omnicities in 2007, what kept the route ticking over until the changes in 2010 was the Cobalt. Now by looking at the timetable, the 308 is timetabled to take 32 (38 peak time) minutes to Rake Lane Hospital and the 309 is timetabled to take 36 minutes (42 peak time). But, the 308 contrary to what the timetable states, it actually takes about the 40 - 45 minute mark during the peak times and 33 minutes off peak. That's about the time the 309 takes and despite it doing so, passengers still have the perception that the 308 is faster than the 309 despite the 309 being at maximum, 3 or so minutes slower. GNE need to get some decent marketing out in the areas between Rake Lane and Blyth to make full use if the double deckers. They're very efficient with regards to ticketing and boarding and have a timetable in place that could cope with a full double deck and keep to time. Look at the Tynemet students. I remember getting the 308 one morning when I lived near Billy Mill a few year back and about nearly the whole bus got off at Willington Square and would've had to walk about 10 minutes to get to the back entrance. The 309 would've dropped them off right outside on B.Hill Drive within walking distance. The 309 is doing well but to make it even better, GNE need to improve the marketing east of Rake Lane to Blyth inparticular to really make a success out of it. They need to get the following reasons out to people why to use the 309:

- New Buses
- High back seating
- Free Wi-Fi
- Phone and Laptop charging points
- Next stop announcements
- Similar journey times to Arriva's 308
- Travel on 309, 310 and 58 (to Newcastle) for £3.65 per day or £12.50 per week
- Only 1 zone daily, monthly, weekly or yearly ticket required to Metro Centre if travelling from North Tyneside or Newcastle. Can be used on fast service TEN or any other service to Metro Centre from Eldon Square and or X66 from Gateshead. 2 zones required from Northumberland but no other tickets required.
- Cheaper daily and weekly travel on Service 309 if only using service 309 (people who'd normally only use service 308), particularly if going cross border into Seaton Sluice and Blyth. Saver also valid om 310 and 58 to Newcastle.
- Stops directly outside Tynemet.
- Students can apply for Get Around card and travel for as little as £3.65 per day or £15.40 when bought on the bus. Even cheaper if bought online.
- Cheaper single fares for Students who apply for Get Around card
- Wheelchair and buggy friendly with space for both.

You couldn't possibly market based on all of those points. It's overly confusing, and would disinterest people straight away. A lot of your bullet points are actually duplicate of one another, and GNE already put extensive marketing into some of those ticket choices - e.g. student tickets.

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Diamond One   26 Jan 2014, 1:24 am
just a reminder the changes happen today 6100 should be out this week then the cobalt clippers
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Adrian   26 Jan 2014, 1:25 am
(26 Jan 2014, 1:24 am)Bazza Houston wrote just a reminder the changes happen today 6100 should be out this week then the cobalt clippers

6100 was out on Friday. Seen on the 865 in Durham.

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Michael   26 Jan 2014, 10:09 am
Is the 29A still using Simplicity Versa's?

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N1cholas   26 Jan 2014, 10:57 am
(26 Jan 2014, 10:09 am)Michael wrote Is the 29A still using Simplicity Versa's?

yes I seen a simplicity versa on the 29a an hour ago
Michael   26 Jan 2014, 11:01 am
(26 Jan 2014, 10:57 am)Nicholas Perry wrote yes I seen a simplicity versa on the 29a an hour ago

=), Thanks.

Wonder how many people are sitting waiting for the 26A today.

Along with rest of the changes from tomorrow.

Count down is on for the next lot of changes! haha

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
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Tom   26 Jan 2014, 11:52 am
(26 Jan 2014, 11:01 am)Michael wrote =), Thanks.

Wonder how many people are sitting waiting for the 26A today.

Along with rest of the changes from tomorrow.

Count down is on for the next lot of changes! haha

Unlike the previous set of changes, I have high expectations for these changes.
Michael   26 Jan 2014, 11:56 am
(26 Jan 2014, 11:52 am)Tom wrote Unlike the previous set of changes, I have high expectations for these changes.

Same, looking forward to seen how the changes plan out, only service which might fall to changes again is the X3, since its route has completely being cut down.

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Davey Bowyer   26 Jan 2014, 11:58 am
Does anyone have any idea whether or not the first run from Blyth (0607) is going to be a double decker or not? I might sacrafice my lift of Dad Tomorrow morning and try the new buses out.
Tom   26 Jan 2014, 12:00 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 11:58 am)Davey Bowyer wrote Does anyone have any idea whether or not the first run from Blyth (0607) is going to be a double decker or not? I might sacrafice my lift of Dad Tomorrow morning and try the new buses out.

I'd wait until later in the week, there probably won't be very many out tomorrow.
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Dan   26 Jan 2014, 12:00 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 11:58 am)Davey Bowyer wrote Does anyone have any idea whether or not the first run from Blyth (0607) is going to be a double decker or not? I might sacrafice my lift of Dad Tomorrow morning and try the new buses out.

I suggest you just get a lift off your dad. :p
Michael   26 Jan 2014, 12:09 pm
Does anyone know if GNE are announcing their moving in to their new depot because it seems a big move for the company.

Like papers and on Facebook etc?

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Dan   26 Jan 2014, 12:11 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 12:09 pm)Michael wrote Does anyone know if GNE are announcing their moving in to their new depot because it seems a big move for the company.

Like papers and on Facebook etc?

They did briefly cover Riverside in a recent post on their blog regarding the Cobalt Clipper - see here.
Michael   26 Jan 2014, 12:17 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 12:11 pm)Dan wrote They did briefly cover Riverside in a recent post on their blog regarding the Cobalt Clipper - see here.

Thought they would of being abit more info etc with it being a big move for the company.

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MrFozz   26 Jan 2014, 12:22 pm
Is the Riverside Depot going to run alongside existing depots, or is it a merger(Sunderland Road/Saltmeadows and Winlaton)...

Forgive me, I dont have the best memory
busman101   26 Jan 2014, 12:23 pm
(25 Jan 2014, 9:43 pm)andreos1 wrote So you got off the bus a stop early, cos you were concerned that a group of old biddies were too rowdy?

It isn't FPF policy to kidnap bus company employees and hide them in old biddy shopping trollies, incase you were worried about that.

Who said they where biddies & there was 5 of them, 3 with trolleys - had visions of Paul Daniels getting on at the top stop in Chester with a chain saw, hence I got off !!!
Michael   26 Jan 2014, 12:25 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 12:22 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Is the Riverside Depot going to run alongside existing depots, or is it a merger(Sunderland Road/Saltmeadows and Winlaton)...

Forgive me, I dont have the best memory

Merger with Sunderland Road and Winlaton and will hold up to 170 buses.

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Andreos1   26 Jan 2014, 12:55 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 12:23 pm)busman101 wrote Who said they where biddies & there was 5 of them, 3 with trolleys - had visions of Paul Daniels getting on at the top stop in Chester with a chain saw, hence I got off !!!

Who else apart from old biddies would be seen dead with an old biddie shopping trolley like?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
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Dan   26 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm
A few things which are somewhat noteworthy from yesterday;

Following its RTC a little while ago, which had been noted on the forum, 5165 is now back in service at Percy Main. It has gained a new front end, which sees the removal of the chrome bar which the ex-Oxford B10BLEs have and also the removal of "Northern" logos.
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The Coffee Cart was out yesterday promoting the "Fab Fifty Six" in Gateshead - photos below:
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I went to Winlaton yesterday to get some photographs of the depot - won't be long before these are scenes which can no longer be caught!
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5276 appears to have lost its rear "Blaydon Racers" branding - I'm not sure why, but assume it's been in an RTC like 5165 at some point and it has not been replaced. It looks pretty odd without the branding!
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8231 is now at Chester-le-Street temporarily, following its brief stint at Stanley. It was on everyone's favourite service yesterday...the 71!
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26A is no more now, and last night provided the opportunity to get an old Fab56 with a new Fab56.
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cbma06   26 Jan 2014, 1:29 pm
Did a drive past of the GNE buses parked up in the Peterlee compound:

12 yellow mpd's
3 red cadets 8259,8272 and 8268
1 scania 4924
plus the bus that is out on service 59 duties today.


just realised that if Peterlee drivers are doing the X7 with 4906-9 with one stationed at Deptford, then wheres the 3 branded buses for the X7 that's supposed to be stationed at Peterlee?


citaro5284   26 Jan 2014, 2:14 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 1:29 pm)cbma06 wrote just realised that if Peterlee drivers are doing the X7 with 4906-9 with one stationed at Deptford, then wheres the 3 branded buses for the X7 that's supposed to be stationed at Peterlee?

At Deptford getting repaired
Dan   26 Jan 2014, 2:32 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:14 pm)citaro5284 wrote At Deptford getting repaired

I wonder if the Pronto has ever had 100% of its allocation VOR on any given day?
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citaro5284   26 Jan 2014, 2:37 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:32 pm)Dan wrote I wonder if the Pronto has ever had 100% of its allocation VOR on any given day?

pdiddy will tell you Tongue
Greg in Weardale   26 Jan 2014, 2:42 pm
The Saturday short workings of the idiotic new X3 timetable ie 1036, 1336 & 1636 from Fulwell Herbert Terrace to Newcastle are not shown on the Nexus timetable information at the bus stop which must be its starting point, the layby opposite Herbert Terrace, the first stop on the A184 past the A1018 roundabout where the bus will presumably turn. In the opposite direction the 1000, 1300 & 1600 from Newcastle to Herbert Terrace are not shown on the stop in East Boldon outside Boldon Auctions (and presumably other stops). Contrary to my last post, there is one working which will (I assume, but nothing can be assumed from this stupid timetable) turn at the Wheatsheaf and not run as a ghost bus to Sunderland, but go straight back, the 0919 on a Saturday.
citaro5284   26 Jan 2014, 2:47 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:42 pm)Greg in Weardale wrote The Saturday short workings of the idiotic new X3 timetable

let it go man, just let it go Tongue
Malarkey   26 Jan 2014, 2:53 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:32 pm)Dan wrote I wonder if the Pronto has ever had 100% of its allocation VOR on any given day?

When I was in Chester le Street a week gone Friday (17th), I seen one Pronto on the X21 in the space of an Hour and a Half, meaning there was 5 missing on that particular day, possibly more. There replacements were either ELC Loynes or Northern B7's.
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Dan   26 Jan 2014, 2:55 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:53 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote When I was in Chester le Street a week gone Friday (17th), I seen one Pronto on the X21 in the space of an Hour and a Half, meaning there was 5 missing on that particular day, possibly more. There replacements were either ELC Loynes or Northern B7's.

Of course on that day, Crook could have been making sure the X21s were departing Bishop on time (similar to Consett with the X70s etc). We know that 100% of the allocation is actually VOR for the WTX Wink
Malarkey   26 Jan 2014, 3:08 pm
(26 Jan 2014, 2:55 pm)Dan wrote Of course on that day, Crook could have been making sure the X21s were departing Bishop on time (similar to Consett with the X70s etc). We know that 100% of the allocation is actually VOR for the WTX Wink

The WTX is no surprise at all, with there ongoing history of Breakdowns since the Launch of the Service Last Year, As for Consett that would been down to the Roadworks on Lobley Hill, which has seen a Venture Solo SR appearing on those Service a few times in Recent Weeks, same with other Stanley based Services. As for Crook I would say that they are struggling Reliability wise if as Pdiddy says there is Breakdowns on a Daily Basis on the X21.
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