(19 Dec 2022, 5:47 pm)Michael wrote Stagecoach have released details about this:685 Newcastle to Carlisle £2. Bargain.
Bus Fare Cap Scheme Exclusions in Tyne and Wear
From 1 January until 31 March 2023, single fares will be £2 or less.
The £2 Bus Fare Cap scheme has been launched by Department for Transport and the government’s Help for Households initiative.
Almost all local Stagecoach North East bus routes will take part in this initiative, service numbers:
Newcastle: 1, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 18, 22, 22X, 30, 31, 32, 32A, 35, 36, 38, 38A, 39, 40, 54, 62, 63, 68, 71, 72, 87, 100, 317, 685, 991, 995, X47, X63, X77, X78, X79, X82, X87, X88.
South Shields: 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 17, 18, 30, 516, 575, X20, X34.
Sunderland: 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18, 18A, 20, 23, 99, 939, X1, X24, X24A, E1, E2, E6.
There are some exclusions to the scheme in Tyne and Wear, where usual fares will continue to apply. These are the following infrequent services: 457, 510, 525, 542, 552, 556, 558, 801, 802, 803, 804, 807, 812, 815, 816, 819, 820, 821, 826, 827, 900, 901.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:51:44:914
(21 Dec 2022, 6:54 pm)ifm001 wrote 685 Newcastle to Carlisle £2. Bargain.
(22 Dec 2022, 12:12 pm)Adrian wrote Absolutely, but it also highlights why the scheme is unworkable in the long-term.
Someone commuting from Carlisle to Newcastle is absolutely quids in, as is say someone from Durham to Newcastle on the 21/X21. If you live on one of the spokes of the network though, you don't benefit at all.
I could do Sunderland and back for £4, as I have a direct route on the 2A, but Newcastle and back would be £8 (as I have to change buses). By that time I might as well have bought a £6.40 Tyne & Wear day ticket. There's several other examples of this.
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan wrote It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(22 Dec 2022, 11:51 pm)DeltaMan wrote It's a shame north east operators are so far behind with tap on tap off/automated price capping. The £2 max fare is the ideal situation to push it. Another missed opportunity
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine wrote GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.But I doubt that GNE can afford to do it!!
(23 Dec 2022, 12:23 pm)deanmachine wrote GNE could easily implement it with this offer, they already have it on every bus after 7pm with the £2.30 evening cap.They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(23 Dec 2022, 3:26 pm)DeltaMan wrote They'd need to scrap all fares below £2 though. And to be fair to Go Ahead (First and a lesser extent Arriva) they are all far further down the line with this soet of thing than Slothcoach, who think an app based solution is the way forward.
(22 Dec 2022, 11:52 am)Ianthegoon wrote Wait for it to be split into two (or more!) routes, with services "connecting" at the common end point .....
(01 Jan 2023, 9:18 am)ne14ne1 wrote Department for Transport clip on the £2 single fare price cap, filmed in Newcastle Gateshead:
https://twitter.com/transportgovuk/status/1609476649464270851?s=46&t=0G4MuljfPbOzkd1sy1VnzQ
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador wrote I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 12:09 am)Ambassador wrote I guess my point is who is this trying to attract?
Me and Mrs A. Low Fell into town and back. There’s £6, not horrendous….but makes you realise how shockingly overpriced GNE were in the first place.
The hassle of missing journeys remains, overcrowding on poorly allocated routes and general inconvenience remains. This isn’t tempting drivers out of their car, it’s not value driven enough to save weekly ticket holders any cash. It’ll drag in a few leisure loads and one off types but not long enough.
Not sure what the aim of this government is tbh aside tick a few boxes .
(04 Jan 2023, 5:49 pm)tvd wrote Anyone going on one bus from A to B could potentially save a good few quid over the three months, but how many of those would be travelling anyway? And once you have to change buses, a return trip becomes at least £8 and then you're in the situation of being better off with a day ticket.
In my view, the money the government is spending on this would've been better used on improvements to bus shelters and displays, installing area maps and live departure screens. Given some to local authorities to produce timetable booklets and leaflets, and marketing. That way, some benefits could last much longer than three months.
We're all bus enthusiasts and probably enjoy planning trips, going online to search timetables and so on, but most people don't want to go out of their way to search for all the information. Making it more accessible and actually having some paper copies of timetables is an area for improvement I think.
(05 Jan 2023, 1:12 am)Bazza wrote I would suggest that the average passenger would prefer the cheaper fares to any of the things you have suggested the money be spent on