(25 May 2023, 7:10 pm)Unber43 wrote X6 I assume increase
(25 May 2023, 7:19 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see that to be quite honest really, increasing the x6 to half hourly will cost GNE use of another bus , plus at least 2 more drivers wages etc… , if the x6 needed more capacity then it would be more of putting a single decker on than a solo.Why not GNE already do remote change overs for the 208/206 afaik, only the 201/209/210 interwork with the X6 currently, if they timed it right they could all interwork.
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(25 May 2023, 7:47 pm)Unber43 wrote Why not GNE already do remote change overs for the 208/206 afaik, only the 201/209/210 interwork with the X6 currently, if they timed it right they could all interwork.
(25 May 2023, 7:55 pm)Storx wrote Those 5 routes are all contract routes so they'll make money regardless. The X6 isn't. They're losing money left right and centre, they won't be expanding on corridors where another operator is dropping buses as no-one uses it imo.Surely, if the demand was there for 2 direct GNE buses an hour between Peterlee and Sunderland then you would've thought that the X7 wouldn't have been withdrawn?
The pensioner pass farce down there won't help either. It might being the opposite and it becoming peak only runs to get the bus to Peterlee and vice versa (I don't know though) but that would leave no service between Seaham and Peterlee at all.
(25 May 2023, 8:48 pm)Jimmi wrote Surely, if the demand was there for 2 direct GNE buses an hour between Peterlee and Sunderland then you would've thought that the X7 wouldn't have been withdrawn?
Part of the proposals for the 22/23 did suggest at looking to revise the times of the 208 to better align up with the new 22/23 times, the changes also suggested that there would be 4 direct buses left overall between Peterlee and Sunderland although I think that's counting the 61.
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(25 May 2023, 8:48 pm)Jimmi wrote Surely, if the demand was there for 2 direct GNE buses an hour between Peterlee and Sunderland then you would've thought that the X7 wouldn't have been withdrawn?
Part of the proposals for the 22/23 did suggest at looking to revise the times of the 208 to better align up with the new 22/23 times, the changes also suggested that there would be 4 direct buses left overall between Peterlee and Sunderland although I think that's counting the 61.
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(26 May 2023, 6:15 am)WUnber43 wrote THe only reason I think the X6 could be improved frequency wise is the fact that it is always busy both ways. But aswell 208 is standalone.The X6 is never ‘always’ busy both ways. Busiest journey is the 8am from Park Lane as we get all the office workers from Spectrum, rest of the time we don’t get close to filling a solo. Not unusual to leave Peterlee empty either.
X6 could be timed to leave 10 mins before the 22/23 leaves
(26 May 2023, 10:38 am)RobinHood wrote X6 is a frequency increase, presumably in response to Arriva reduction on the 22/23.
It clear from the amount of chopping and changing that has happened between Peterlee and Sunderland (even before COVID-19), that it doesnt justify the level of resource being thrown at it.
Conversely, I see 23/24 buses between Peterlee and Hartlepool are normally very well used, still surprised GNE gave that up, as it is clearly worth more than Peterlee to Sunderland.
(26 May 2023, 10:38 am)RobinHood wrote X6 is a frequency increase, presumably in response to Arriva reduction on the 22/23.
It clear from the amount of chopping and changing that has happened between Peterlee and Sunderland (even before COVID-19), that it doesnt justify the level of resource being thrown at it.
Conversely, I see 23/24 buses between Peterlee and Hartlepool are normally very well used, still surprised GNE gave that up, as it is clearly worth more than Peterlee to Sunderland.
(26 May 2023, 5:21 pm)Dan wrote With the notification period now required, Go North East would not have been aware of any changes to the Arriva services at the time of providing pre-notification to local authorities of their changes from the same date.That's even better for GNE
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(26 May 2023, 6:15 am)Unber43 wrote THe only reason I think the X6 could be improved frequency wise is the fact that it is always busy both ways. But as well 208 is standalone.A frequency increase on the X6 won't cost an extra bus - there already is a peak only school bus in Peterlee/Seaham.
X6 could be timed to leave 10 mins before the 22/23 leaves
(26 May 2023, 6:16 pm)busmanT wrote A frequency increase on the X6 won't cost an extra bus - there already is a peak only school bus in Peterlee/Seaham.Pretty sure I mentioned that or smth similar earlier?
There are numerous trips by vans between Sunderland and Peterlee to do driver reliefs on the 206 & 208, which would be eliminated with an X6 frequency increase so as well as no extra bus required little extra mileage.
(26 May 2023, 5:21 pm)Dan wrote With the notification period now required, Go North East would not have been aware of any changes to the Arriva services at the time of providing pre-notification to local authorities of their changes from the same date.When travelling between
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(26 May 2023, 8:44 pm)Economic505 wrote When travelling between
Hartlepool and Sunderland , it pays to get a train. The bus journey is an absolute pain in the ass.
(27 May 2023, 7:48 am)Storx wrote Arguably people should be doing that journey by train really, it makes no sense anyone using the bus. It's just the rail on the Durham Coast is terrible aswell.The bus is £2, the train is £7.10 each way
(26 May 2023, 6:52 am)purplesolo wrote The X6 is never ‘always’ busy both ways. Busiest journey is the 8am from Park Lane as we get all the office workers from Spectrum, rest of the time we don’t get close to filling a solo. Not unusual to leave Peterlee empty either.I've been on plenty of X6 journeys that are quite cosy.