(22 Jul 2023, 8:10 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote It might not be a bus war, could it not be the 2 operators working together to maintain the half hour frequency currently operated by Arriva? As the Go North East services are only operating hourly the 37/38 extensions might well be hourly too.
(22 Jul 2023, 8:54 am)Storx wrote It's illegal for bus companies to collaborate on bus routes and Nexus has nothing to do with them as they're commercial so highly doubt it.
It's more probably Stagecoach wanting to dominate the Killingworth, Forest Hall and the Freeman to Newcastle flows, I don't blame them either.
(22 Jul 2023, 10:41 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote How would it be illegal if say the 352 left Cramlington on the hour and the 37 left at half past the hour? Two different routes that might go slightly different ways to get to Newcastle. Doesn't the 684/685 do something like when leaving Newcastle to maintain the 30 min frequency to Hexham
(22 Jul 2023, 10:46 am)Storx wrote As Stagecoach shouldn't know the timetable for the 352, it's not in public domain yet (even known it's been leaked).
The 684 is a Northumberland CC contract that's why that one works.
(22 Jul 2023, 10:57 am)L469 YVK wrote Can operators not see registered timetables? I think I remember them saying.
As for the 37 & 352/353, it looks like the 352 and 353 are going via Fern Drive.
So maybe the 37 will go via Weetslade Road and still maintain a 15 minute frequency with the 352/353 on the Cramlington - Killingworth / Forest Hall section of route
(22 Jul 2023, 11:19 am)V514DFT wrote I do wonder if the 37/38/352 could be a future agreement like what they have along the Coast Road
(23 Jul 2023, 8:16 am)BusEnthusiast.com wrote Does anyone know when this information is going on the Stagecoach Newcastle service changes because I couldn’t find the info anywhere
(21 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm)Michael wrote Changes for the 3rd September 2023: I take it this is due to school contract changes?
PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (11, 10) South Shields Interchange North Shields Interchange
PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 87, 72) Grainger Street Chapel Park, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall
PB0002404/77
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International
PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18A, 18) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law
PB0002404/385
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Benton Estate or Quorum Walker
PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Killingworth
PB0002404/388
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 317 (317) Wallsend Whitley Bay
PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill
PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington
PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close
(23 Jul 2023, 8:25 pm)Michael wrote CSV:Can't see the 355 staying unless GNE are banking on West Farm Avenue to generate revenue?
37/37A/38 - Service 37 introduced between Cramlington and Whickham View, every 30 minutes Mon to Sat daytimes, hourly evenings (with Nexus support) and Sundays. Some service 38 extended from Freeman Hospital to Meadway Estate, every 30 minutes, with Nexus support evenings and Sundays. Combined every 10 minutes between Freeman Hospital and Whickham View.
(23 Jul 2023, 11:43 pm)L469 YVK wrote Can't see the 355 staying unless GNE are banking on West Farm Avenue to generate revenue?
(24 Jul 2023, 4:10 am)Dan wrote Or banking on passengers not wanting to be diverted via Freeman Hospital on the 38, a very slow and circuitous route into town compared to the current 55?
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(24 Jul 2023, 4:10 am)Dan wrote Or banking on passengers not wanting to be diverted via Freeman Hospital on the 38, a very slow and circuitous route into town compared to the current 55?
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(24 Jul 2023, 4:13 am)pbjd wrote From the Freeman the 38 goes along the Coast Road into Newcastle not sure what’s slow about that, understandable to call it slow if they were extending the 1 maybe but not the 38.
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(24 Jul 2023, 2:24 pm)Dan wrote Have you ever had the misfortune of sitting in the traffic congestion at the Freeman Hospital at peak times?
It’s horrendously slow.
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(24 Jul 2023, 2:57 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Given the current 38 is every 10 mins, will it be 2x37, 2x38 & 2x38A per hour or will it get a uplift to 7/8 mins combined?
Also what will the expected PVR of this service be?
(24 Jul 2023, 2:59 pm)pbjd wrote 2 37s and 4 38s an hour with 2 38s only going to Freeman as now, 38A is just the early morning trips that come from Cowgate/Chapel House.
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(24 Jul 2023, 3:57 pm)Storx wrote I must say I don't really get the numbering, surely a 38 (Freeman), 38A (Forest Hall), 38B (Cramlington) would've been less confusing. I would've said 36/37/38 but there's already a 36.