(05 Sep 2023, 6:17 am)Dyllan7817 wrote S17 has been awarded back to stagecoach and starts from today

In addition to this, service 6/6A will be starting tomorrow (Wednesday 6th September) but will only be operating between Hurworth - Darlington - Middleton St. George/Teesside Airport until the service is able to fully begin, effectively replacing the 12.

Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timet...060923.pdf

Hodgsons were running a school time only service (started today) between the Airport and Hurworth but doubt this will continue now.

(05 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm)Jimmi wrote In addition to this, service 6/6A will be starting tomorrow (Wednesday 6th September) but will only be operating between Hurworth - Darlington - Middleton St. George/Teesside Airport until the service is able to fully begin, effectively replacing the 12.

Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timet...060923.pdf

Hodgsons were running a school time only service (started today) between the Airport and Hurworth but doubt this will continue now.

Hodgsons’ scholar turn will run tomorrow only now.

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Sunday runs up until Christmas?

(15 Sep 2023, 3:08 pm)Michael wrote 29th October 2023:

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Sunday runs up until Christmas?

If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

(15 Sep 2023, 4:04 pm)ifm001 wrote If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

Kind of falls into line with Christmas seemingly starting early this year with supermarkets trying to flog Christmas sweets etc, since mid-August.

It'll be mid-July next year.

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(15 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm)Michael wrote 29th October -

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63 being diverted to Middle Callerton to serve the new housing estate there, 62s will be going into the new housing there last k heard, but could possibly be the 71 serving it extended from the current chapel park and Hillheads loop. 11 going to chapel house to replace the 63.


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Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT wrote Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

(15 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm)Michael wrote 29th October


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Any frequency changes expected?


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(16 Sep 2023, 7:37 pm)Coastliner700 wrote Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…


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(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT wrote Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Isn't it the Newcastle to Chillingham Road side which is congested? Not sure more punters on the Western side will do much difference across Newcastle.

Mind I'm still surprised there's not short runs from Four Lane Ends to West Denton with the 62/63 dropped to every 20 minutes. Living at the Northern side and popping to Killingworth once in a blue moon and seeing them around Quorum they're always dead or single figures.

(16 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm)j986986 wrote Any frequency changes expected?


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Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…


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Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

(17 Sep 2023, 10:54 am)Coastliner700 wrote Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

(17 Sep 2023, 11:02 am)Busu284 wrote How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 wrote During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Maybe but it's possible just timing as the 71 isn't that long of a route where as the 62/63 it could be near enough time to start the 115 and the bus could be say at Four Lane Ends on its way to Chapel House or something

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 wrote During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

The 71/72/87 has been retimed to allow the 115 to work on and off them - that decker board does the morning trip then drops onto the xx04 71s from the city until 2pm when it drops off to do the afternoon 115 while the 71/72/87 drops down to a combined 20 minute frequency before dropping back in at Chapel Park about half 4 to boast it back up to every 15 for the PM peak, while also then ending up on 72s rather than 71s (incidentally the 72 board ends up on 71s during the PM 20 minute frequency and the other 71 board ends up on 72s before going back onto 71s).
If you had the 115 work onto the 62/63, you’d see trips dropped from the timetable on a morning peak and an afternoon to allow vehicles to go and work the 115. Notice that the 1, 39/40 and 62/63 are presently the only major Stagecoach routes that don’t have vehicles dropping off to work schools - I wonder why that is ?

(17 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The 71/72/87 has been retimed to allow the 115 to work on and off them - that decker board does the morning trip then drops onto the xx04 71s from the city until 2pm when it drops off to do the afternoon 115 while the 71/72/87 drops down to a combined 20 minute frequency before dropping back in at Chapel Park about half 4 to boast it back up to every 15 for the PM peak, while also then ending up on 72s rather than 71s (incidentally the 72 board ends up on 71s during the PM 20 minute frequency and the other 71 board ends up on 72s before going back onto 71s).
If you had the 115 work onto the 62/63, you’d see trips dropped from the timetable on a morning peak and an afternoon to allow vehicles to go and work the 115. Notice that the 1, 39/40 and 62/63 are presently the only major Stagecoach routes that don’t have vehicles dropping off to work schools - I wonder why that is ?

Do you know what the X24 change is?

Ignoring the Throckley extension problem I'm surprised they haven't binned off the 71/72/87 by now and merged them with the 62/63 so you'd end up with something like

62: Throckley to Killingworth
63: Middle Callerton to Killingworth
64: Westerhope area somehow doing as much of the 71/72 as possible to Four Lane Ends

All 3 BPH

There's no need for 4 BPH at the Killingworth end either but the extra bus running through the core would do wonders.

71/72/87 withdrawn.

If you timed the 11 to run with the 62/63 you could have 9 BPH from West Denton to Newcastle aswell and the 36 to run with the 63 you could have 6 BPH from Fenham rather than the 4 BPH and 3 BPH on top of each other.

(17 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm)Storx wrote Ignoring the Throckley extension problem I'm surprised they haven't binned off the 71/72/87 by now and merged them with the 62/63 so you'd end up with something like

62: Throckley to Killingworth
63: Middle Callerton to Killingworth
64: Westerhope area somehow doing as much of the 71/72 as possible to Four Lane Ends

All 3 BPH

There's no need for 4 BPH at the Killingworth end either but the extra bus running through the core would do wonders.

71/72/87 withdrawn.

If you timed the 11 to run with the 62/63 you could have 9 BPH from West Denton to Newcastle aswell and the 36 to run with the 63 you could have 6 BPH from Fenham rather than the 4 BPH and 3 BPH on top of each other.

See now the 63 is going to Middle Callerton the 64 could now been restored in full and combined with the 62 and 63 every half an hour 62/63 Killingworth Bus Station- Southgate 30 mins each (15 combined) 63/64 Great Lime Road-West Denton, then they combine with the 62 Four Lane Ends-West Denton i theory providing the same frequency as now and the 62 between Southgate -Quorum- Longbenton, is that really an issue being every 30 mins when theres the 18/335/352/354/355 aswell it also would mean the 11 to Chapel House wouldnt be needed as the 64 used to run Forest Hall Shops- Chapel House

(17 Sep 2023, 4:26 pm)V514DFT wrote See now the 63 is going to Middle Callerton the 64 could now been restored in full and combined with the 62 and 63 every half an hour 62/63 Killingworth Bus Station- Southgate 30 mins each (15 combined) 63/64 Great Lime Road-West Denton, then they combine with the 62 Four Lane Ends-West Denton i theory providing the same frequency as now and the 62 between Southgate -Quorum- Longbenton, is that really an issue being every 30 mins when theres the 18/335/352/354/355 aswell it also would mean the 11 to Chapel House wouldnt be needed as the 64 used to run Forest Hall Shops- Chapel House

It's funny I was actually thinking of similar to that aswell but not sure, halfing the frequency would be too popular - even known it's probably more than enough to be fair.

(17 Sep 2023, 6:35 pm)Storx wrote It's funny I was actually thinking of similar to that aswell but not sure, halfing the frequency would be too popular - even known it's probably more than enough to be fair.

The frequency could be more upto Four Lane Ends, or the Quorum in the case for the 62

Stagecoach changes on bustimes.org

115-AM journey to operate up to 9 minutes earlier throughout for reliability. Short Notice Application

62/63-Service 63 revised to operate to the new Middle Callerton Development via Chapel Park. Extra resource added to Service 62/63 resulting in timing changes throughout

Operating between Killingworth and Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton given service number 62 / 63 / 62 effective from 29 October 2023. To amend Route and Timetable

71/72/72A/87-Route and timetable revised, Service 71 to operate hourly all day, daily, via Stamfordham Road and Jingling Gate to North Walbottle, returning via Chapel Park and Stamfordham Road, 72 to operate half-hourly Monday to Friday off-peak and Saturday daytimes, hourly Monday to Friday peak and evening and Sundays, via Hillhead Estate. One peak Service 72A introduced to cater for scholars. Service 87 minor timing changes

10/11-Service 11 extended to Chapel House, replacing Service 63 in this area. Minor timetable changes.Route revised to operate along full length of Claremont Road towards North Kenton

Others are just timetable changes

(18 Sep 2023, 7:43 am)Busu284 wrote Stagecoach changes on bustimes.org

115-AM journey to operate up to 9 minutes earlier throughout for reliability. Short Notice Application

62/63-Service 63 revised to operate to the new Middle Callerton Development via Chapel Park. Extra resource added to Service 62/63 resulting in timing changes throughout

Operating between Killingworth and Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton given service number 62 / 63 / 62 effective from 29 October 2023. To amend Route and Timetable

71/72/72A/87-Route and timetable revised, Service 71 to operate hourly all day, daily, via Stamfordham Road and Jingling Gate to North Walbottle, returning via Chapel Park and Stamfordham Road, 72 to operate half-hourly Monday to Friday off-peak and Saturday daytimes, hourly Monday to Friday peak and evening and Sundays, via Hillhead Estate. One peak Service 72A introduced to cater for scholars. Service 87 minor timing changes

10/11-Service 11 extended to Chapel House, replacing Service 63 in this area. Minor timetable changes.Route revised to operate along full length of Claremont Road towards North Kenton

Others are just timetable changes

I could be misinterpreting the wording but it appears X24&X34 could be receiving permanent Sunday services, as the Shoppers one doesn’t start as early as October, and the registration normally mentions the fact it’s only a Christmas run up thing.


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(18 Sep 2023, 8:43 am)pbjd wrote I could be misinterpreting the wording but it appears X24&X34 could be receiving permanent Sunday services, as the Shoppers one doesn’t start as early as October, and the registration normally mentions the fact it’s only a Christmas run up thing.


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Wonder if the 63 extension, and these Sunday services are BSIP improvements rather than commercial. It's the same date as the Northumberland new 57A extension and X16 tenders start aswell and we haven't heard of anything from elsewhere yet, assuming they've all got a share of the pot.

Did Arriva win the X16?

(18 Sep 2023, 8:20 pm)Unber43 wrote Did Arriva win the X16?

They've registered the service.

5th November:

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(22 Sep 2023, 7:44 pm)Michael wrote 5th November:

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The 59 being extended to Middlesbrough is quite a bizzare change, can’t say I see the need for it other than at a push giving Tithe Barn and Elm Tree a bus further than the High Street.


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(22 Sep 2023, 8:48 pm)pbjd wrote The 59 being extended to Middlesbrough is quite a bizzare change, can’t say I see the need for it other than at a push giving Tithe Barn and Elm Tree a bus further than the High Street.


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It’s a bizarre extension to service considering Stockton can’t cover what they run now. Can only assume the frequency is going to get slashed to provide the driver resources.


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