(22 Sep 2023, 12:45 am)Theboyle92 wrote I'm led to believe that on a night there will be an extra service (2A) alongside the current hourly 2 from the Galleries to Silksworth instead of the mini 2A Biddick's that are currently running (sometimes being missed out due to late running of the inbound 2). This will mean the 2s should have roughly 16min layover/recovery time at Washington hopefully improving running time also giving hollycarside a late service.
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(21 Sep 2023, 6:25 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/735
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 8 (8, 8A) Sunderland Stanley
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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 56 (56) Newcastle Sunderland
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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 60 (60) Parkside Sunderland
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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 61 (61, 861) Peterlee Sunderland
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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 65 (65) Seaham Durham
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(22 Sep 2023, 8:51 am)Storx wrote I'm not sure whether there's more coming here but Langley Park appears to be left without a bus service.
The 20 I'm sure is Langley Park Sunderland on the current registration.
Also to note there's no 61A either.
(22 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm)Unber43 wrote Langley Park could be the return of the X20, giving it in November hopefully they will have say the 20 staff extra to run that service, and they still have the older great branded buses for the route...oh wait
(22 Sep 2023, 2:52 pm)Unber43 wrote Or you could just have the 20 extend to langley Park hourly on an evening.
(22 Sep 2023, 3:49 pm)deanmachine wrote That's what I mean, it just seems a bit pointless to me to have it as two different routes depending on the time of the day.
(22 Sep 2023, 12:44 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Is that because the 2A will be running to Silksworth, meaning the section though leechmere and grangetown will be covered by that.
I wonder if the 8 changes are to do with the fact the 09:09 ex Washington and 13:15 ex sunderland don't run the full route.
(22 Sep 2023, 2:41 pm)deanmachine wrote Seems a little bit short sighted to me if true, as on an evening it's going to have to interwork with a 20 as it is, better to just stay the same service all day.
(22 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm)Storx wrote Imagine it's because there's not a bus needed through Ashbrooke anymore (Stagecoach 13 runs all day / night now) so will just be a normal 61 instead.Passenger numbers are quite good going through Langley Park towards Sunderland tho.
Not sure if it's up for tender but wonder if it might interwork with the 725, if they can win it (or the 25 restored in full as it's a dumb split when both are subsidised anyway) - believe it should be coming up soonish but could be wrong there.
(22 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm)Storx wrote Not sure if it's up for tender but wonder if it might interwork with the 725, if they can win it (or the 25 restored in full as it's a dumb split when both are subsidised anyway) - believe it should be coming up soonish but could be wrong there.
(22 Sep 2023, 10:27 pm)Jimmi wrote 725 shouldn't be up for contract renewal any time soon.
Joining the 25 & 725 into one route again likely won't happen due to Nexus funding the 25 whilst DCC fund the 725 and that would require two local authorities to work together which often doesn't happen or is rather terribly executed.
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(23 Sep 2023, 8:40 am)Andreos1 wrote You never know, GNE could decide to take it on commercially and join the two together.Why would GNE do that when they had it as one route previously and I assume decided it wasn’t commercially viable so left it to the councils?
As likely as NF being a master at employee relations, RF slagging the paintwork on the North Tyne network and RS shaving his beard off and wearing trousers.
But we can hope.
(22 Sep 2023, 10:27 pm)Jimmi wrote 725 shouldn't be up for contract renewal any time soon.
Joining the 25 & 725 into one route again likely won't happen due to Nexus funding the 25 whilst DCC fund the 725 and that would require two local authorities to work together which often doesn't happen or is rather terribly executed.
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(23 Sep 2023, 8:32 am)F114TML wrote What's the chances with the 61A going, they won't bother and Murton will lose its night service?
*doffs cynic hat*
(26 Sep 2023, 10:43 am)Greg in Weardale wrote From next year Durham, Northumberland and the Tyne & Wear councils combine into one Mayoral authority which will have responsibility for transport, so we might see more logical planning (eg. 725 and 25 joined), but they may, unfortunately in my opinion, go for franchising, as in Manchester.
(05 Oct 2023, 9:04 am)Unber43 wrote any more news on these changes?