(08 Jan 2024, 12:47 pm)Unber43 wrote What was the point of wasting money getting them done then!
As for Plans GNE have been less than stella in the plans for their network, the amount of flip flops due to incompentant managment...can you blame people for their lack of faith
(08 Jan 2024, 10:08 pm)Unber43 wrote THey say a Bee In Traning , which sounds stupid and looks stupid if they end up appearing on the 49 with normal drivers
(08 Jan 2024, 10:48 pm)Ambassador wrote You know I love to criticise the Bensham Boys but…this makes sense
The new drivers are erm… varying in skill shall we say.
If the Streetlite is your vehicle of choice and what a new driver is likely to experience, it surely makes sense to train them from Day 1 on that vehicle and build up their experience and in turn confidence up until their first day on the job as a solo driver, it means when they make the switch to a Streetdeck or whatever they do so as a more confident driver, surely that helps and creates a better employee and customer experience?
Certainly makes more sense than having them do training on ex Nat Ex coaches or whatever tat in the fleet is going free
(09 Jan 2024, 2:35 pm)Storx wrote Opposite way would make more sense surely?
Training them on an older vehicles gets them experience with the issues with an older vehicle. If you train them on new vehicles, then when they eventually get into the driver's seat and have to drive a 15 year old ex London cast off, they're aware of the technical limitations.
With that training, then getting in a modern vehicle without the issues should be a breeze. Rather than the opposite of being used to a vehicle with perfect gearing then being dumped into something which isn't etc.
(09 Jan 2024, 3:04 pm)streetdeckfan wrote Don't they have to go through familiarisation training for new vehicles though?
So training them on the Streetlite from the start reduces the need for any additional training if that's what they're going to be sent out on anyway
(09 Jan 2024, 5:13 pm)Storx wrote Guess it depends what they're going out on, I believe B9's without going on a counting spree are the most used type of vehicle aren't they and I think every depot has them now.
There's plenty ancient ones like the 57 plates etc which could be ideal for it. Plus it's a big bus for advertising stuff on aswell when they're tootling around wherever.
(10 Jan 2024, 3:48 am)Dan wrote But training in a short wheelbase double-deck is hardly the best idea to ensure drivers are capable and ready for the roads - they are easier to drive than a full-size single-deck. Great way of increasing your pass rate though.
So, looking at full-size single-decks - what’s the most common bus in GNE’s fleet?
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(10 Jan 2024, 10:19 am)F114TML wrote Tbh, it doesn't really matter what you pass your test in. I passed my test in a MAN ALX300, but most of my confidence issues when I first passed were not related to the fact the bus I was driving was built by Scania or Dennis, it was the fact it's a bus with lots of people on.When there was a Green Arrow at Deptford I got it on the 61A and the driver was just so confused for ages about to make sure eveyrhuing was on as the bus had been completely turned off
Having learners in StreetLites just means they don't need to be familiarised on StreetLites, although having said that I have heard that vehicle familiarisation at GNE just consists of long bus, short bus and tall bus, unlike here where new starters get a good 20-odd minutes drive in each type of vehicle* along with a tour of the cab.
You could also argue that, as a professional driver, you should be able to get into the cab of any bus and familiarise yourself with the controls.
* It also doesn't eliminate a need to familiarise on a StreetDeck anyway. I haven't driven either but I'll bet they drive differently to the Lite, if the Enviro family are anything to go by,
(08 Jan 2024, 12:25 pm)Dan wrote Since when were Go North East answerable to enthusiasts on this forum?!
Who is to say that the seats and USB chargers currently in those Streetlites will remain in them? Who is to say there isn’t a plan?
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(09 Jan 2024, 5:13 pm)Storx wrote Guess it depends what they're going out on, I believe B9's without going on a counting spree are the most used type of vehicle aren't they and I think every depot has them now.
There's plenty ancient ones like the 57 plates etc which could be ideal for it. Plus it's a big bus for advertising stuff on aswell when they're tootling around wherever.
(11 Jan 2024, 6:08 pm)busmanT wrote Driver training buses have to be a minimum of 10 metres long and capable of a minimum of 50 mph by law.
(11 Jan 2024, 8:21 am)54APhotography wrote The fan boys are usually quick to reply, nobody demands an answer, just clear one wasn't forthcoming.
You can take the seats out with USB's in anytime, but if you don't rewire the vehicle they're going in, they won't work.
(11 Jan 2024, 6:08 pm)busmanT wrote Driver training buses have to be a minimum of 10 metres long and capable of a minimum of 50 mph by law.
(11 Jan 2024, 6:59 pm)Dan wrote I’m guessing they are wise enough to know that they need to undertake the necessary electrical work too…
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(11 Jan 2024, 5:46 pm)Rapidsnap wrote According to SKM X (twitter) feed that Olympus's 6968/69/71 are staying at EYMS and have been numbered 930-932. Wonder if anything is coming in their place or we just going to have gaps in the fleetnumbers again for the time being.Maybe they're just to embarrassed to have 6969 in the fleet, and it would have been too obvious missing it out, so they had to bin off a few more around so it didn't look suspicious.
(21 Dec 2023, 6:45 pm)Andreos1 wrote I'm glad it's not just me who spotted this.
Imagine travelling from Chester le Street to Quorum in the car normally and then deciding to follow the guidance in parking the car in the Metrocentre and then paying to sit on a bus in to the town and then struggle on changing bus to get to Quorum.
Throw in a handful of people doing a similar journey, but from Washington or Wrekenton and it really rams home how daft this proposal is.
Then throw in the mix all those people traveling north to south. How does it work for them?
Regardless of that, I'm baffled as to how the funding is actually being utilised and who approved it.
If the bus was free, then I can see where some of the money is going.
As it stands, it just looks like it's paying to hire the car parking space.
(11 Jan 2024, 7:37 pm)mb134 wrote You'd think, given the nature of GNE's network and how often they move vehicles around, that they'd want all of the service fleet to be able to do 50 mph too...
Imagine what new starters think after training in a vehicle capable of 50 mph, then being slapped onto an express with some ex-London decker that can barely do 40!
(26 Jan 2024, 8:23 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Update on the ex GAL Blue Triangle e400s:
https://x.com/atyldsley/status/1750967912096026968?s=46&t=tPuGEygnn6BhKgNFiA4yAw