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peter



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23 Feb 2024, 10:05 pm #3,561
(20 Feb 2024, 10:58 pm)peter Full Darlington service changes confirmed: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...march-2024

Now followed by Durham: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...m-march-24
peter
23 Feb 2024, 10:05 pm #3,561

(20 Feb 2024, 10:58 pm)peter Full Darlington service changes confirmed: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...march-2024

Now followed by Durham: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...m-march-24

L469 YVK



3,551
23 Feb 2024, 11:07 pm #3,562
Just seen changes for Coast Road on Traveline. Only noticable things, timetable changes for reliability, 308 has extra running time on Sundays meaning a new bus & driver out of Blyth (similar to GNE's old 10/X21 boards), and after 11pm, departures every 20 minutes from Haymarket (307 - 05, 308 - 25, 309 - 45) instead of 00, 15, 45
Edited 23 Feb 2024, 11:08 pm by L469 YVK.
L469 YVK
23 Feb 2024, 11:07 pm #3,562

Just seen changes for Coast Road on Traveline. Only noticable things, timetable changes for reliability, 308 has extra running time on Sundays meaning a new bus & driver out of Blyth (similar to GNE's old 10/X21 boards), and after 11pm, departures every 20 minutes from Haymarket (307 - 05, 308 - 25, 309 - 45) instead of 00, 15, 45

Aaron21



785
24 Feb 2024, 12:07 am #3,563
(23 Feb 2024, 11:07 pm)L469 YVK Just seen changes for Coast Road on Traveline. Only noticable things, timetable changes for reliability, 308 has extra running time on Sundays meaning a new bus & driver out of Blyth (similar to GNE's old 10/X21 boards), and after 11pm, departures every 20 minutes from Haymarket (307 - 05, 308 - 25, 309 - 45) instead of 00, 15, 45

306 now serving Percy Park Road all the time now as well. Be only towards Newcastle
Aaron21
24 Feb 2024, 12:07 am #3,563

(23 Feb 2024, 11:07 pm)L469 YVK Just seen changes for Coast Road on Traveline. Only noticable things, timetable changes for reliability, 308 has extra running time on Sundays meaning a new bus & driver out of Blyth (similar to GNE's old 10/X21 boards), and after 11pm, departures every 20 minutes from Haymarket (307 - 05, 308 - 25, 309 - 45) instead of 00, 15, 45

306 now serving Percy Park Road all the time now as well. Be only towards Newcastle

Aaron21



785
26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am #3,564
Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock
Aaron21
26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am #3,564

Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock

26 Feb 2024, 6:48 pm #3,565
(26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Aaron21 Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock

Looks like the 415 mainly duplicates the X15 but also gives Swarland a service and at last the 460 has made a comeback after years. At least these places are being linked properly. Now it's just a wait for the timetable. Oh and what will buses will be used on this route (If anyone knows)
Edited 26 Feb 2024, 6:50 pm by NEbushopper.
NEbushopper
26 Feb 2024, 6:48 pm #3,565

(26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Aaron21 Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock

Looks like the 415 mainly duplicates the X15 but also gives Swarland a service and at last the 460 has made a comeback after years. At least these places are being linked properly. Now it's just a wait for the timetable. Oh and what will buses will be used on this route (If anyone knows)

26 Feb 2024, 7:37 pm #3,566
(26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Aaron21 Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock

Ironic like GNE that they deemed these routes uneconmical. Withdrew them. Now money is offered they reinstate them. Bus companies that do should be excluded from applying to tender them.
Coastliner700
26 Feb 2024, 7:37 pm #3,566

(26 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Aaron21 Arriva have registered 2 new services. This being the 415 and 460. 415 runs between Morpeth & Alnwick via Felton & Swarland with the 460 running between Alnwick to Ellingham via Denwick & Rennington & Rock

Ironic like GNE that they deemed these routes uneconmical. Withdrew them. Now money is offered they reinstate them. Bus companies that do should be excluded from applying to tender them.

mb134



4,151
26 Feb 2024, 7:49 pm #3,567
(26 Feb 2024, 7:37 pm)Coastliner700 Ironic like GNE that they deemed these routes uneconmical. Withdrew them. Now money is offered they reinstate them. Bus companies that do should be excluded from applying to tender them.

Can you tell me when Arriva last ran these services?
mb134
26 Feb 2024, 7:49 pm #3,567

(26 Feb 2024, 7:37 pm)Coastliner700 Ironic like GNE that they deemed these routes uneconmical. Withdrew them. Now money is offered they reinstate them. Bus companies that do should be excluded from applying to tender them.

Can you tell me when Arriva last ran these services?

RobinHood



638
26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm #3,568
(26 Feb 2024, 7:49 pm)mb134 Can you tell me when Arriva last ran these services?

Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.
RobinHood
26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm #3,568

(26 Feb 2024, 7:49 pm)mb134 Can you tell me when Arriva last ran these services?

Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.

26 Feb 2024, 8:25 pm #3,569
(26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm)RobinHood Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.

The were devised in late 90s usually using Alnwick based metroriders on some days. The 515 also operated this route on some journeys too.
Coastliner700
26 Feb 2024, 8:25 pm #3,569

(26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm)RobinHood Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.

The were devised in late 90s usually using Alnwick based metroriders on some days. The 515 also operated this route on some journeys too.

Storx



4,595
26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm #3,570
Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.
Edited 26 Feb 2024, 8:55 pm by Storx.
Storx
26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm #3,570

Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.

Thomas12



467
26 Feb 2024, 9:00 pm #3,571
(26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm)Storx Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.

I think these are going to be extremely infrequent services (like once or twice a week), so probably not worth it.
Thomas12
26 Feb 2024, 9:00 pm #3,571

(26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm)Storx Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.

I think these are going to be extremely infrequent services (like once or twice a week), so probably not worth it.

mb134



4,151
26 Feb 2024, 9:07 pm #3,572
(26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm)RobinHood Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.

Thank you. I thought it was a while ago, certainly in my head it was pre-2010 "Big Change" (or whatever it was called) as I couldn't remember them being mentioned in that or in anything since.  

(26 Feb 2024, 8:25 pm)Coastliner700 The were devised in late 90s usually using Alnwick based metroriders on some days. The 515 also operated this route on some journeys too.

I'm not sure in this case then how the company are now bad for taking on a Saturday only service to serve the villages again after all these years? As above from Robin Hood, the services were subsidised even back then so surely it would be the council at fault for pulling the funding rather than Arriva? 

Generally I'd be of a similar opinion in that it's always interesting when operators throw in the towel on a commerical service and then immediately win the tender for it, but this seems to be an entirely different kettle of fish.
mb134
26 Feb 2024, 9:07 pm #3,572

(26 Feb 2024, 8:11 pm)RobinHood Many, many years ago, circa 2007 maybe? and even then, they were financially supported.

Thank you. I thought it was a while ago, certainly in my head it was pre-2010 "Big Change" (or whatever it was called) as I couldn't remember them being mentioned in that or in anything since.  

(26 Feb 2024, 8:25 pm)Coastliner700 The were devised in late 90s usually using Alnwick based metroriders on some days. The 515 also operated this route on some journeys too.

I'm not sure in this case then how the company are now bad for taking on a Saturday only service to serve the villages again after all these years? As above from Robin Hood, the services were subsidised even back then so surely it would be the council at fault for pulling the funding rather than Arriva? 

Generally I'd be of a similar opinion in that it's always interesting when operators throw in the towel on a commerical service and then immediately win the tender for it, but this seems to be an entirely different kettle of fish.

Storx



4,595
26 Feb 2024, 9:16 pm #3,573
(26 Feb 2024, 9:00 pm)Thomas12 I think these are going to be extremely infrequent services (like once or twice a week), so probably not worth it.

Aye that makes sense then, wasn't sure how frequent it was.
Storx
26 Feb 2024, 9:16 pm #3,573

(26 Feb 2024, 9:00 pm)Thomas12 I think these are going to be extremely infrequent services (like once or twice a week), so probably not worth it.

Aye that makes sense then, wasn't sure how frequent it was.

Jimmi



10,970
26 Feb 2024, 11:08 pm #3,574
(26 Feb 2024, 6:48 pm)NEbushopper Looks like the 415 mainly duplicates the X15 but also gives Swarland a service and at last the 460 has made a comeback after years. At least these places are being linked properly. Now it's just a wait for the timetable. Oh and what will buses will be used on this route (If anyone knows)

The 460 actually still operates with NEED (North East Equality & Diversity), one trip from Ellingham to Alnwick and back on Thursdays.

Last I was aware that Swarland & Newton on the Moor had a bus service was when PCL Travel operated an 'A1' service between Alnwick & Longframlington, initially consisting of two off peak round trips in gaps between the Wooler contracted Services 470/473 they operated at the time but was later cut to one trip each way running on/off the M1 that was pretty much just the X14 route between Morpeth and Thropton running in hours the X14 didn't - think it stopped running late 2018/early 2019.
Pic of a PCL Versa departing Alnwick for Longframlington: https://flic.kr/p/Yge1Pc
An LDV Convoy van I rode from Longframlington to Alnwick back in 2018: https://flic.kr/p/25poJNt
Edited 26 Feb 2024, 11:08 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
26 Feb 2024, 11:08 pm #3,574

(26 Feb 2024, 6:48 pm)NEbushopper Looks like the 415 mainly duplicates the X15 but also gives Swarland a service and at last the 460 has made a comeback after years. At least these places are being linked properly. Now it's just a wait for the timetable. Oh and what will buses will be used on this route (If anyone knows)

The 460 actually still operates with NEED (North East Equality & Diversity), one trip from Ellingham to Alnwick and back on Thursdays.

Last I was aware that Swarland & Newton on the Moor had a bus service was when PCL Travel operated an 'A1' service between Alnwick & Longframlington, initially consisting of two off peak round trips in gaps between the Wooler contracted Services 470/473 they operated at the time but was later cut to one trip each way running on/off the M1 that was pretty much just the X14 route between Morpeth and Thropton running in hours the X14 didn't - think it stopped running late 2018/early 2019.
Pic of a PCL Versa departing Alnwick for Longframlington: https://flic.kr/p/Yge1Pc
An LDV Convoy van I rode from Longframlington to Alnwick back in 2018: https://flic.kr/p/25poJNt

Kuyoyo



6,853
27 Feb 2024, 11:44 am #3,575
(26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm)Storx Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.

The 415 and 460 are Saturday-only services - and due to the nature of the roads, will be allocated Solos.
Kuyoyo
27 Feb 2024, 11:44 am #3,575

(26 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm)Storx Ignoring it's bolted onto the end of the 777 currently, but is there any reason why this 415 couldn't have been bolted onto the end of the X16, having more buses between Newcastle and Alnwick not around the world on the Coast can only been seen as a positive imo even known it's slightly longer. It seems pretty direct this 415.

The 415 and 460 are Saturday-only services - and due to the nature of the roads, will be allocated Solos.

Aaron21



785
28 Feb 2024, 2:58 pm #3,576
Changes are available

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...r-march-24

43 on Sundays & Bank Holiday that finshed at Cramlington will now extend to the Hospital
Aaron21
28 Feb 2024, 2:58 pm #3,576

Changes are available

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...r-march-24

43 on Sundays & Bank Holiday that finshed at Cramlington will now extend to the Hospital

Aaron21



785
28 Feb 2024, 7:42 pm #3,577
Want to point out. The bustimes.org registration says Revised timetable for 43 and revised route for 306/308 yet the 43 got the revised route and the 306 got the revised timetable
Aaron21
28 Feb 2024, 7:42 pm #3,577

Want to point out. The bustimes.org registration says Revised timetable for 43 and revised route for 306/308 yet the 43 got the revised route and the 306 got the revised timetable

Storx



4,595
29 Feb 2024, 5:38 pm #3,578
(27 Feb 2024, 11:44 am)Kuyoyo The 415 and 460 are Saturday-only services - and due to the nature of the roads, will be allocated Solos.

Thanks for confirming.
Storx
29 Feb 2024, 5:38 pm #3,578

(27 Feb 2024, 11:44 am)Kuyoyo The 415 and 460 are Saturday-only services - and due to the nature of the roads, will be allocated Solos.

Thanks for confirming.

Jimmi



10,970
24 Mar 2024, 1:19 am #3,579
(20 Feb 2024, 10:58 pm)peter Full Darlington service changes confirmed: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...march-2024

On top of these, there will now be further timetable changes to services 5, 7, 8/8A & ED5 from March 31st owing to a road closure on the A167 at Aycliffe Interchange - junction 59 for the A1(M), which requires buses departing Darlington towards Aycliffe to divert down the A1(M) to junction 58 to turn round and head back along to J59 to rejoin the route on the other side of the closed bridge: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...8a-and-ed5

An extra 8 mins is required to complete these journeys, and service 7 will drop to a 20 min frequency on weekdays during these weeks (along with Saturdays, which is already the case).
Jimmi
24 Mar 2024, 1:19 am #3,579

(20 Feb 2024, 10:58 pm)peter Full Darlington service changes confirmed: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...march-2024

On top of these, there will now be further timetable changes to services 5, 7, 8/8A & ED5 from March 31st owing to a road closure on the A167 at Aycliffe Interchange - junction 59 for the A1(M), which requires buses departing Darlington towards Aycliffe to divert down the A1(M) to junction 58 to turn round and head back along to J59 to rejoin the route on the other side of the closed bridge: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...8a-and-ed5

An extra 8 mins is required to complete these journeys, and service 7 will drop to a 20 min frequency on weekdays during these weeks (along with Saturdays, which is already the case).

Storx



4,595
24 Mar 2024, 12:07 pm #3,580
(24 Mar 2024, 1:19 am)Jimmi On top of these, there will now be further timetable changes to services 5, 7, 8/8A & ED5 from March 31st owing to a road closure on the A167 at Aycliffe Interchange - junction 59 for the A1(M), which requires buses departing Darlington towards Aycliffe to divert down the A1(M) to junction 58 to turn round and head back along to J59 to rejoin the route on the other side of the closed bridge: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...8a-and-ed5

An extra 8 mins is required to complete these journeys, and service 7 will drop to a 20 min frequency on weekdays during these weeks (along with Saturdays, which is already the case).

It's a shame someone couldn't use their brain and make Brafferton Lane, one way towards Aycliffe so there wouldn't be any time penalty at all...

No doubt everyone else, will be rat running along there regardless.
Edited 24 Mar 2024, 12:10 pm by Storx.
Storx
24 Mar 2024, 12:07 pm #3,580

(24 Mar 2024, 1:19 am)Jimmi On top of these, there will now be further timetable changes to services 5, 7, 8/8A & ED5 from March 31st owing to a road closure on the A167 at Aycliffe Interchange - junction 59 for the A1(M), which requires buses departing Darlington towards Aycliffe to divert down the A1(M) to junction 58 to turn round and head back along to J59 to rejoin the route on the other side of the closed bridge: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...8a-and-ed5

An extra 8 mins is required to complete these journeys, and service 7 will drop to a 20 min frequency on weekdays during these weeks (along with Saturdays, which is already the case).

It's a shame someone couldn't use their brain and make Brafferton Lane, one way towards Aycliffe so there wouldn't be any time penalty at all...

No doubt everyone else, will be rat running along there regardless.

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