(28 May 2014, 8:49 pm)Marcus wrote So scrap the 34A? Possibly brand a few of the 4926-4931 batch for The Waggonway if something like that went through? What of the fate of the 4 Worm Versas then if they all aren't needed?
(28 May 2014, 8:53 pm)Tom wrote No, the 28A/34A would serve Garden Farm, and the 28/34 would serve the avenue.
They would be used on the M2/M3 alongside the Quaylink Versas if they get them.
(28 May 2014, 9:08 pm)Marcus wrote Oh, I see now. The X25 and 50 both serve Waldridge Park, and if anyone ever gets on them there it's for The Galleries or Newcastle. The 34/34A is seen as a local service.
(28 May 2014, 9:47 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote 73 - Washington Galleries - Galleries Retail Park - Sainsbury's Car Park - Glebe - Washington Village - Barmston Village Centre - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Sunderland Enterprise Park - Sunderland Interchange
The above would eliminate the Service from serving both Waterview Park/Peel Retail Park/Sulgrave and Concord Twice in both Directions when heading to Washington and Sunderland, It would also cut Journey Times down by around 25 Minutes I am predicting. To cover the loss of the 73 OAP's would be forced to walk 200 Yards in each Direction to catch either the 4/56 Every 10 Minutes or the M2 Every 30 Minutes, That is a Total of 14 Buses Per Hour that would replace a Service none of them use the 73 as I learnt Yesterday when I decided not to get off it the first time at Concord when going to get my Hair Cut.
Or we could alternatively we could be nice and extend the W5/W6 to Coach Road Estate for no reason at all. To add further fuel to the Fire of axing the 73 from Coach Road Estate, why do you think almost 5 Years Ago Go North East Axed the W3 before merging it with the M2/M3, Because no body used it even though it was Operating at a Frequency of Every 30 Minutes. I think Personally Go North East/Nexus should do a Consultation over a Period of a Month or 2, and see how many People get on the 73 at Coach Road Estate.
(13 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm)BJ10VUS wrote Sounds like a good idea, although I'm sure that even if you found that nobody boards at Coach Road Estate for the whole consultation, someone would write to the local papers in anger at how shocked they feel to have been "isolated" from society due to the removal of the 73...
(13 Jun 2014, 10:14 pm)Robert wrote This is what i'd like to happen as its really annoying going out and seeing the current 704 running around with nobody on:
704: Stanley Bus Station - Durham Road - Avon Road - Hollyhill Gardens - South Moor - Stanley Bus Station
705: Stanley Bus Station - South Moor - Hollyhill Gardens - Avon Road - Durham Road - Stanley Bus Station
(14 Jun 2014, 10:56 am)BJ10VUS wrote I'm not familiar with the Stanley area, so would you be able to tell me what is the 704 actually for? Does it replace something, as it only runs during the evening, but it's a pretty short route.
(14 Jun 2014, 11:04 am)Robert wrote The 704 is mainly an evening service that literally goes round Avon Road and back up to Stanley. Takes 5 minutes and gets nobody on. Those 2 routes would run throughout the day and would get used as they would run in between the timetables of the main routes that go the same way as these services on some parts of the route.
Looking at the old 704 (just went Stanley - Avon Road - Hollyhill Gardens - Avon Road - Stanley) which used a DAF as it interworked with the 729 and that got decent loadings so, thats what im basing this idea off.
(14 Jun 2014, 4:29 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Just been looking through the Timetables on the BygoneEraofNEB/simplygo.com for Journey Times between Newcastle and Hartlepool as it has been a Topic Discussed a lot this week on the GNE Latest Forum, and here is what I found
X35 - Sunderland to Hartlepool
Journey Time = 89 Minutes
X36 – Sunderland to Newcastle
Journey Time = 58 Minutes
Total Journey Time = 2 and a Half Hours (147 Minutes) – Excludes Layover Period in Sunderland
X35 – Hartlepool to Peterlee – Journey Time = 32 Minutes
X9 – Peterlee to Newcastle – Journey Time = 43 Minutes
Total Journey Time = 75 Minutes – Excludes Layover Period in Peterlee
Old X5/Proposed X1 Extention - Newcastle to Hartlepool
Journey Time = 93 Minutes
Now one would assume said Passengers using Bus Services between Newcastle and Hartlepool would swap from X9 to X35 at Peterlee and Vice Versa, Looks like a Straight Forward swap of Services until look at the Timetable and see you have to wait 35 Minutes for the X9, Which we all know could potentially be running late, which means said Passenger has to wait up to a Further Hour for the Next X9 to show up, this I believe shows how unreliable the current Connections and Services are between Newcastle and Hartlepool, So here are few Suggestions.
Extend the X1 to Hartlepool, would in turn bring back the Links of the Old X5 Between Newcastle and Hartlepool, but instead of it being an Hourly Service, Have it operate Half Hourly.
*New Service*
X8 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Peterlee - Hartlepool
This would provide the Current X9/X35 Link as a through Service with no need to change at Peterlee, and a Substanial Improvement to Reliabillity.
(14 Jun 2014, 5:09 pm)Jimmi wrote Go North East briefly had Service X11 a few years back which ran from Newcastle - Hartlepool with two journeys in each direction on Saturdays only.
http://durham.pindarcreative.co.uk/tt/X11_GNE.pdf
(14 Jun 2014, 4:55 pm)marxistafozzski wrote You could easy shave nearly a half hour off Sunderland-Hartlepool down the coast, I think it can be done in under an hour as long as it long as it leaves out Peterlee, Pygalls claimed to do It in 50 minutes
Is there any opportunities to shave some minutes off Newcastle-Hartlepool via E.Lane, 93 mins is a long time, make it as limited stop as possible, stopping only at Gateshead Int-Wrekenton-Galleries-Shiney Row-Houghton Church-Hetton Int-Wrekenton-Galleries-Shiney-E.Lane-Peterlee-Hartlepool stopping only at one point in each place, and obviously there would be EU driving regulations would need to be taken into account, split the route at Hetton or Houghton perhaps, keep the X35 route, but change the number and drop the X, it is anything but an express service, and have it pick up at stops a limited stop doesn't serve
(14 Jun 2014, 4:55 pm)marxistafozzski wrote You could easy shave nearly a half hour off Sunderland-Hartlepool down the coast, I think it can be done in under an hour as long as it long as it leaves out Peterlee, Pygalls claimed to do It in 50 minutes
Is there any opportunities to shave some minutes off Newcastle-Hartlepool via E.Lane, 93 mins is a long time, make it as limited stop as possible, stopping only at Gateshead Int-Wrekenton-Galleries-Shiney Row-Houghton Church-Hetton Int-Wrekenton-Galleries-Shiney-E.Lane-Peterlee-Hartlepool stopping only at one point in each place, and obviously there would be EU driving regulations would need to be taken into account, split the route at Hetton or Houghton perhaps, keep the X35 route, but change the number and drop the X, it is anything but an express service, and have it pick up at stops a limited stop doesn't serve
(14 Jun 2014, 7:53 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Going with the Coastal Idea down to Hartlepool, would it be a good idea to Perhaps extend the 60/61 once an Hour via Peterlee to Hartlepool rather than create a whole New Route from Scratch, As for trimming down the Old X5, Limited Stopping is the only way I can see it Working as you have said abpve, alternatively would be quicker to go via Seaham to Peterlee then onto Hartlepool.
(15 Jun 2014, 11:27 am)tezthorn wrote Hi im new to this forum but i do have a suggestion and a question
I never understood why the 14/14A in sunderland was changed to the 5/5A does
Anyone know why?
Right my suggestion
Personally i think the 9 and 17/17A should be withdrawn
Reinstate the 319 but pick up the holy cross part then onwards to the tunnel to jarrow and sunderland
New service 320 would start from whitley bay and continue to north shields via rake lane and chirton grange taking up the 17/17A then from there omit royal quays and onwards to the tunnel using the same route as 319 but those who live in sunderland can help out there.
To take up withdrawn 17/17A in percy main W3 would be extended and from there continue to howdon road,waterville road and start its route back to whitley bay from meadow well
(14 Jun 2014, 4:29 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Just been looking through the Timetables on the BygoneEraofNEB/simplygo.com for Journey Times between Newcastle and Hartlepool as it has been a Topic Discussed a lot this week on the GNE Latest Forum, and here is what I foundCant have an X4 or 5 due to arriva having it could be X6 perhaps
X35 - Sunderland to Hartlepool
Journey Time = 89 Minutes
X36 – Sunderland to Newcastle
Journey Time = 58 Minutes
Total Journey Time = 2 and a Half Hours (147 Minutes) – Excludes Layover Period in Sunderland
X35 – Hartlepool to Peterlee – Journey Time = 32 Minutes
X9 – Peterlee to Newcastle – Journey Time = 43 Minutes
Total Journey Time = 75 Minutes – Excludes Layover Period in Peterlee
Old X5/Proposed X1 Extention - Newcastle to Hartlepool
Journey Time = 93 Minutes
Now one would assume said Passengers using Bus Services between Newcastle and Hartlepool would swap from X9 to X35 at Peterlee and Vice Versa, Looks like a Straight Forward swap of Services until look at the Timetable and see you have to wait 35 Minutes for the X9, Which we all know could potentially be running late, which means said Passenger has to wait up to a Further Hour for the Next X9 to show up, this I believe shows how unreliable the current Connections and Services are between Newcastle and Hartlepool, So here are few Suggestions.
Extend the X1 to Hartlepool, would in turn bring back the Links of the Old X5 Between Newcastle and Hartlepool, but instead of it being an Hourly Service, Have it operate Half Hourly.
*New Service*
X8 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Heworth - Peterlee - Hartlepool
This would provide the Current X9/X35 Link as a through Service with no need to change at Peterlee, and a Substanial Improvement to Reliabillity.
(15 Jun 2014, 9:07 pm)tezthorn wrote Cant have an X4 or 5 due to arriva having it could be X6 perhaps
(15 Jun 2014, 9:07 pm)tezthorn wrote Cant have an X4 or 5 due to arriva having it could be X6 perhaps
(16 Jun 2014, 2:51 pm)BJ10VUS wrote New idea for service X3 - thought and suggestions, please? Doesn't serve Fulwell or Monkwearmouth, but opens new connections to Newcastle from Cleadon and Whitburn.
Newcastle, Market Street East - xx.00
Gateshead Interchange - xx.10
Heworth Interchange - xx.19
Boldon Cineworld - xx.27
Boldon, North Road - xx.29
East Boldon, Black's Corner - xx.36
Cleadon, Front Street - xx.42
Whitburn, Front Street- xx.48
Seaburn, Morrisons - xx.51
Seaburn, Dene Estate - xx.53
(16 Jun 2014, 2:51 pm)BJ10VUS wrote New idea for service X3 - thought and suggestions, please? Doesn't serve Fulwell or Monkwearmouth, but opens new connections to Newcastle from Cleadon and Whitburn.
Newcastle, Market Street East - xx.00
Gateshead Interchange - xx.10
Heworth Interchange - xx.19
Boldon Cineworld - xx.27
Boldon, North Road - xx.29
East Boldon, Black's Corner - xx.36
Cleadon, Front Street - xx.42
Whitburn, Front Street- xx.48
Seaburn, Morrisons - xx.51
Seaburn, Dene Estate - xx.53