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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - October 2013

 
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citaro5284



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13 Oct 2013, 1:36 pm #81
We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?
citaro5284
13 Oct 2013, 1:36 pm #81

We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?

Tom



6,138
13 Oct 2013, 1:37 pm #82
(13 Oct 2013, 1:36 pm)citaro5284 We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?

Yeah, totally agree! - I mean, it's not daily it happens, but quite a few times I've saw the Hybrids on the X10/X11.
Tom
13 Oct 2013, 1:37 pm #82

(13 Oct 2013, 1:36 pm)citaro5284 We have to complete on a 3 monthly basis what route GNE Hybrids operate on as the Dft wants to know what we bid for is what the buses are being used for.

However, I see the Arriva 308 vehicles on loads of different services....X4, X5 and X10 mainly. How can this be allowed when they were given money from the Government to improve the 308 route?

Yeah, totally agree! - I mean, it's not daily it happens, but quite a few times I've saw the Hybrids on the X10/X11.

13 Oct 2013, 4:02 pm #83
It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.
Davey Bowyer
13 Oct 2013, 4:02 pm #83

It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.

citaro5284



3,234
13 Oct 2013, 4:10 pm #84
(13 Oct 2013, 4:02 pm)Davey Bowyer It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.

All of this is put into the bid, so if Hybrids were not suited for the 308, they should have received the money from the GBF Big Grin
citaro5284
13 Oct 2013, 4:10 pm #84

(13 Oct 2013, 4:02 pm)Davey Bowyer It could simply be down to the fact that they're not suited for the 308 and therefore, they're putting the minimum amount they're getting away with on the 308 and using the rest for the Quorum Expresses, X10, X11 and X13 due to the fact that the timetables are less demanding than what the 308 timetable is. Also, the hybrids do tend to struggle on the slip roads on the Coast Road thus making it a struggle to keep to timetable plus the factor of constantly stopping and starting. The reason that they're suited for the Green Angel for though is because the 21 stops at nearly every single stop making them worthwhile for Go North East because the 21 doesn't require the power and speed as much as Arriva's 308 requires to keep to time.

All of this is put into the bid, so if Hybrids were not suited for the 308, they should have received the money from the GBF Big Grin

tyresmoke



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13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm #85
(13 Oct 2013, 1:07 pm)W179SCU Arriva North East - Rare and Odd Workings Summary, Week Commencing 7th October 2013

If you spot any errors, PM me and I will change this ASAP.

Monday, 7th October 2013
  • DAF SB3000/Plaxton Prima 1213 (V213DJR) on service 55 (reported by citaro5284)
  • Scania CN230UB/Scania Omnicity 4654 (NK05GXO) on the 28/30 (W179SCU)

Tuesday, 8th October 2013
  • No reports

Wednesday, 9th October 2013
  • No reports, but 1402 and 1403 have been repainted into ''Quorum Express'' livery (mdw921)

Thursday, 10th October 2013
  • Volvo SB200/Wright Pulsar 1481 (NK61CYU) on service 685 (northern156)

Friday, 11th October 2013
  • No reports

Saturday, 12th October 2013
  • ''NexusBus'' Optare Solo 2816 (YK08ETO) on service 53 (W179SCU)

Sunday, 13th October 2013
  • No reports

Can I ask everyone to report anything unusual or rare on here, so I can include it on this weekly report. Even if you don't think it is very unusual, still post it! If there isn't enough reports, I will have to withdraw this. Cheers!

4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink

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tyresmoke
13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm #85

(13 Oct 2013, 1:07 pm)W179SCU Arriva North East - Rare and Odd Workings Summary, Week Commencing 7th October 2013

If you spot any errors, PM me and I will change this ASAP.

Monday, 7th October 2013
  • DAF SB3000/Plaxton Prima 1213 (V213DJR) on service 55 (reported by citaro5284)
  • Scania CN230UB/Scania Omnicity 4654 (NK05GXO) on the 28/30 (W179SCU)

Tuesday, 8th October 2013
  • No reports

Wednesday, 9th October 2013
  • No reports, but 1402 and 1403 have been repainted into ''Quorum Express'' livery (mdw921)

Thursday, 10th October 2013
  • Volvo SB200/Wright Pulsar 1481 (NK61CYU) on service 685 (northern156)

Friday, 11th October 2013
  • No reports

Saturday, 12th October 2013
  • ''NexusBus'' Optare Solo 2816 (YK08ETO) on service 53 (W179SCU)

Sunday, 13th October 2013
  • No reports

Can I ask everyone to report anything unusual or rare on here, so I can include it on this weekly report. Even if you don't think it is very unusual, still post it! If there isn't enough reports, I will have to withdraw this. Cheers!

4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink


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Tom



6,138
13 Oct 2013, 4:45 pm #86
(13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm)tyresmoke 4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink

I'll add that to the list Wink
Tom
13 Oct 2013, 4:45 pm #86

(13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm)tyresmoke 4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink

I'll add that to the list Wink

Kuyoyo



6,856
13 Oct 2013, 4:52 pm #87
(13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm)tyresmoke 4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink

Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today Wink
Kuyoyo
13 Oct 2013, 4:52 pm #87

(13 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm)tyresmoke 4658 worked some 631/2s this afternoon - couldnt tell you who was responsible though Wink

Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today Wink

tyresmoke



5,323
13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm #88
(13 Oct 2013, 4:52 pm)Kuyoyo Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today Wink

To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

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tyresmoke
13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm #88

(13 Oct 2013, 4:52 pm)Kuyoyo Now now Scott, there was more than that from
Stockton today Wink

To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo


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Tom



6,138
13 Oct 2013, 5:00 pm #89
(13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm)tyresmoke To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?
Tom
13 Oct 2013, 5:00 pm #89

(13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm)tyresmoke To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?

tyresmoke



5,323
13 Oct 2013, 5:05 pm #90
(13 Oct 2013, 5:00 pm)W179SCU 1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?

It's branded for X1 'The Best One' so is unusual any time Smile Should be based at Bishop Auckland...
Temsa 4702 on service 5 again today, its been at Whitby all week though.

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tyresmoke
13 Oct 2013, 5:05 pm #90

(13 Oct 2013, 5:00 pm)W179SCU 1406 on the X66 is odd for a Sunday, is it?

It's branded for X1 'The Best One' so is unusual any time Smile Should be based at Bishop Auckland...
Temsa 4702 on service 5 again today, its been at Whitby all week though.


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Kuyoyo



6,856
13 Oct 2013, 5:16 pm #91
(13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm)tyresmoke To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

I would still class 4048's appearance on X1 as rare - even rarer if it also did a 27A/27 before that Wink
And 29-branded 1451 on 27/27A as well Wink
Kuyoyo
13 Oct 2013, 5:16 pm #91

(13 Oct 2013, 4:59 pm)tyresmoke To be fair Sunday is a day of anything goes at Stockton...

1406 on the X66 stood out though from Darlo

I would still class 4048's appearance on X1 as rare - even rarer if it also did a 27A/27 before that Wink
And 29-branded 1451 on 27/27A as well Wink

Tom



6,138
13 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm #92
What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?
Tom
13 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm #92

What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?

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13 Oct 2013, 7:43 pm #93
(13 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm)W179SCU What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?

Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.
Dan
13 Oct 2013, 7:43 pm #93

(13 Oct 2013, 7:38 pm)W179SCU What Prestiges do Blyth/Jesmond/Ashington have?

Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.

Tom



6,138
13 Oct 2013, 7:49 pm #94
(13 Oct 2013, 7:43 pm)Daniel Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.

Thanks Smile
Tom
13 Oct 2013, 7:49 pm #94

(13 Oct 2013, 7:43 pm)Daniel Blyth - 4005 for disposal.

Jesmond - 4004 in frontline, 4054/60 for disposal.

Ashington - None.

Thanks Smile

Tom



6,138
15 Oct 2013, 3:17 pm #95
(08 Oct 2013, 4:55 pm)tyresmoke Allocation changes as of 5th October:

4004 Reserve - Jesmond (replacing 1213 to Ashington)
4072 Reserve - Jesmond (extra bus to combat late running on 43/45)

1213 Jesmond - Ashington (replacing 1211 to be converted to training coach)

4002/4027 Redcar - Disposal (end of 'peak' summer X93 timetable, PVR -2)

Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?
Tom
15 Oct 2013, 3:17 pm #95

(08 Oct 2013, 4:55 pm)tyresmoke Allocation changes as of 5th October:

4004 Reserve - Jesmond (replacing 1213 to Ashington)
4072 Reserve - Jesmond (extra bus to combat late running on 43/45)

1213 Jesmond - Ashington (replacing 1211 to be converted to training coach)

4002/4027 Redcar - Disposal (end of 'peak' summer X93 timetable, PVR -2)

Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?

Kuyoyo



6,856
15 Oct 2013, 3:30 pm #96
(15 Oct 2013, 3:17 pm)W179SCU Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?

4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.
Kuyoyo
15 Oct 2013, 3:30 pm #96

(15 Oct 2013, 3:17 pm)W179SCU Have these fleet movements happened yet? - If so, is it likely 4004/4072 will be in service for much longer?

4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.

Tom



6,138
15 Oct 2013, 3:31 pm #97
(15 Oct 2013, 3:30 pm)Kuyoyo 4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.

Oh - Excellent! - Has 4054/72 been in service recently?
Tom
15 Oct 2013, 3:31 pm #97

(15 Oct 2013, 3:30 pm)Kuyoyo 4004 hasn't ever left service at Jesmond after the Metro Replacements.

Oh - Excellent! - Has 4054/72 been in service recently?

15 Oct 2013, 8:57 pm #98
Seen today minus its Quorum brandings
Raymond
Coppercap40
15 Oct 2013, 8:57 pm #98

Seen today minus its Quorum brandings
Raymond

Michael



19,177
15 Oct 2013, 9:00 pm #99
Which one? Lol

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
15 Oct 2013, 9:00 pm #99

Which one? Lol


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

tyresmoke



5,323
15 Oct 2013, 10:03 pm #100
(15 Oct 2013, 9:00 pm)Michael Which one? Lol

7601 - been like that since July at least... Had a full repaint following accident repairs. Would have expected it to have been re-branded by now but there you go.

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tyresmoke
15 Oct 2013, 10:03 pm #100

(15 Oct 2013, 9:00 pm)Michael Which one? Lol

7601 - been like that since July at least... Had a full repaint following accident repairs. Would have expected it to have been re-branded by now but there you go.


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