Stagecoach & National Express merger
Stagecoach & National Express merger
(21 Sep 2021, 10:28 pm)deanmachine I doubt any of this would effect our local bus area, not sure why this new entity would want to sell up anywhere when they don’t need to. The coaching side I can see happening, but not immediately as they have a contract with GNE.In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(21 Sep 2021, 10:28 pm)deanmachine I doubt any of this would effect our local bus area, not sure why this new entity would want to sell up anywhere when they don’t need to. The coaching side I can see happening, but not immediately as they have a contract with GNE.In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.Quite possibly although am surprised Riverside depot is not doing the National Express work. Washington depot I think could easily do the majority of the Chester Le Street work. 21/X21 all been done from Riverside.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.Quite possibly although am surprised Riverside depot is not doing the National Express work. Washington depot I think could easily do the majority of the Chester Le Street work. 21/X21 all been done from Riverside.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.Yes was going to be on birtley industrial estate iirc. However think galleries where that new cinema was supposed to be built would be ideal place. From there you have all the washington network plus the 8 that's serves the galleries. Also not far from birtley for rest of Chester's operation. Also no need for Van's to ferry drivers to and from concord
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.Yes was going to be on birtley industrial estate iirc. However think galleries where that new cinema was supposed to be built would be ideal place. From there you have all the washington network plus the 8 that's serves the galleries. Also not far from birtley for rest of Chester's operation. Also no need for Van's to ferry drivers to and from concord
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(22 Sep 2021, 1:38 pm)Storx I don't know the state of the depots but wouldn't closing Washington be easier. The 50/50A/26 could easily be operated from it and it's not far to Birtley for the Solos or Bournmoor for the 4. X1 less so but it's no different to the 21, X21, 25, 28 and so on if you shut CLS.
Wasn't there rumours for a new depot merging them years ago anyway or am I making that up.
(21 Sep 2021, 10:40 pm)Andreos1 I think 'yet' is the key word here.
Flixbus raised £500m of investment just a few months ago and if Nat Ex or Megabus are caught napping, they could lose out big time.
I think its important they look to stay ahead of the game here and if they can cut/reduce costs in the meantime through the merger, it seems a no-brainer.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(21 Sep 2021, 10:40 pm)Andreos1 I think 'yet' is the key word here.
Flixbus raised £500m of investment just a few months ago and if Nat Ex or Megabus are caught napping, they could lose out big time.
I think its important they look to stay ahead of the game here and if they can cut/reduce costs in the meantime through the merger, it seems a no-brainer.
(22 Sep 2021, 12:12 am)Stanleyone In the current climate, I'm MG would love to have those nat ex drivers back on locals. If the coaching side does go, I would see Chester depot closing.
(22 Sep 2021, 5:38 pm)Adrian Having a quick look at prices, I'd say National Express are already napping. The FlixBus fares are extremely good value and provide a good option for Loooooooooooooooooovel to those on a budget.
I'm not so sure, because at least the NX work is guaranteed income for GNE. The same cannot be said about locals, sadly. I'd suggest dropping the odd run on a 21 or X1, due to sickness, isn't impacting on the takings.
(22 Sep 2021, 5:38 pm)Adrian Having a quick look at prices, I'd say National Express are already napping. The FlixBus fares are extremely good value and provide a good option for Loooooooooooooooooovel to those on a budget.
I'm not so sure, because at least the NX work is guaranteed income for GNE. The same cannot be said about locals, sadly. I'd suggest dropping the odd run on a 21 or X1, due to sickness, isn't impacting on the takings.
(22 Sep 2021, 3:14 pm)JP6004 Yes was going to be on birtley industrial estate iirc. However think galleries where that new cinema was supposed to be built would be ideal place. From there you have all the washington network plus the 8 that's serves the galleries. Also not far from birtley for rest of Chester's operation. Also no need for Van's to ferry drivers to and from concord
(22 Sep 2021, 3:14 pm)Chris 1 Up on the Drum industrial estate was the last rumours I heard, not sure what happened though.
Be a sad day if Chester ever did close, it's where 'The Northern' all began. Not many old school depots left.
(22 Sep 2021, 3:18 pm)cbma06 I think there were going to build a big depot at Birtley, but came to no avail and a car company took on the site.
Even though Chester depot must be cramped inside and could do with a new one, I wonder how much the maintenance cost is and if there’s any terminally structural problems with the drpot if it’s to close in the future it’s the only one of two left, it’s more nostalgia
I would of thought moving Washington to deptford be done years ago as it’s only down the road.
Wasn't dreaming it then.
(22 Sep 2021, 3:14 pm)JP6004 Yes was going to be on birtley industrial estate iirc. However think galleries where that new cinema was supposed to be built would be ideal place. From there you have all the washington network plus the 8 that's serves the galleries. Also not far from birtley for rest of Chester's operation. Also no need for Van's to ferry drivers to and from concord
(22 Sep 2021, 3:14 pm)Chris 1 Up on the Drum industrial estate was the last rumours I heard, not sure what happened though.
Be a sad day if Chester ever did close, it's where 'The Northern' all began. Not many old school depots left.
(22 Sep 2021, 3:18 pm)cbma06 I think there were going to build a big depot at Birtley, but came to no avail and a car company took on the site.
Even though Chester depot must be cramped inside and could do with a new one, I wonder how much the maintenance cost is and if there’s any terminally structural problems with the drpot if it’s to close in the future it’s the only one of two left, it’s more nostalgia
I would of thought moving Washington to deptford be done years ago as it’s only down the road.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...in-tycoons
Interesting article
(26 Sep 2021, 7:39 pm)TonyFoster88 https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...in-tycoons
Interesting article
(26 Sep 2021, 7:39 pm)TonyFoster88 https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...in-tycoons
Interesting article
(26 Sep 2021, 9:30 pm)James101 I agree with the articles sentiment. Stagecoach flourished in the cut & thrust peak deregulation era. It was very much Brian's company, a commercial beast ran by a dynamic entrepreneur, even if he is a terrible person. Stagecoach has seen jilted & stale since Souter stepped down. The upcoming quasi-regulated system on the horizon much more suits how National Express operate in the West Midlands. Extensive stable networks, close partnerships with authorities, flat, very cheap, fares. If this style is adopted into the current Stagecoach operations it could be good news for the passenger.
(26 Sep 2021, 9:30 pm)James101 I agree with the articles sentiment. Stagecoach flourished in the cut & thrust peak deregulation era. It was very much Brian's company, a commercial beast ran by a dynamic entrepreneur, even if he is a terrible person. Stagecoach has seen jilted & stale since Souter stepped down. The upcoming quasi-regulated system on the horizon much more suits how National Express operate in the West Midlands. Extensive stable networks, close partnerships with authorities, flat, very cheap, fares. If this style is adopted into the current Stagecoach operations it could be good news for the passenger.
Stagecoach and National Express agree £1.9bn merger
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2021/12...bn-merger/
(14 Dec 2021, 10:21 am)Michael Stagecoach and National Express agree £1.9bn merger
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2021/12...bn-merger/
(14 Dec 2021, 10:21 am)Michael Stagecoach and National Express agree £1.9bn merger
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2021/12...bn-merger/
(14 Dec 2021, 12:25 pm)Chris 1 Indeed.They've gone. Deal was done to allow merger. CDG take all three.
Stagecoach stake in Citylink; Megabus and South West Falcon all appear to have to go.
Interesting times.
(14 Dec 2021, 12:25 pm)Chris 1 Indeed.They've gone. Deal was done to allow merger. CDG take all three.
Stagecoach stake in Citylink; Megabus and South West Falcon all appear to have to go.
Interesting times.
Comfort DelGro, already heavily involved with Megabus and Citylink, the takeover of that meant no obstacles left for the merger.
(14 Dec 2021, 12:25 pm)Chris 1 Indeed.
Stagecoach stake in Citylink; Megabus and South West Falcon all appear to have to go.
Interesting times.