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Kuyoyo



6,856
15 May 2023, 8:43 am #81
(15 May 2023, 8:32 am)deanmachine There's a few ex Scottish E300s in Shields, not sure if they're Euro 6 though, pretty sure they have spare deckers too.

The ex-Scottish E300s aren't Euro6 - hence why none are allocated to any Newcastle depots.
Kuyoyo
15 May 2023, 8:43 am #81

(15 May 2023, 8:32 am)deanmachine There's a few ex Scottish E300s in Shields, not sure if they're Euro 6 though, pretty sure they have spare deckers too.

The ex-Scottish E300s aren't Euro6 - hence why none are allocated to any Newcastle depots.

15 May 2023, 2:56 pm #82
i think Cambridge has had some of its new electric decker's start to enter service, does anyone know what they are replacing there?
toward6931
15 May 2023, 2:56 pm #82

i think Cambridge has had some of its new electric decker's start to enter service, does anyone know what they are replacing there?

24 May 2023, 7:36 pm #83
Manchester has started to receive some of its new buses at Hyde road, anyone know what they are replacing there?
toward6931
24 May 2023, 7:36 pm #83

Manchester has started to receive some of its new buses at Hyde road, anyone know what they are replacing there?

22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am #84
stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here
toward6931
22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am #84

stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here

22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am #85
(22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am)toward6931 stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here

You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..
54APhotography
22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am #85

(22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am)toward6931 stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here

You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

Storx



4,635
22 Jun 2023, 10:50 am #86
(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

In fairness they had a very hard life, the fact they actually work is quite impressive, the work they were typically on are much harder than anything down here. Arriva have wrecked numerous Enviro's on the X15/X18 in the same time which is similar work.
Storx
22 Jun 2023, 10:50 am #86

(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

In fairness they had a very hard life, the fact they actually work is quite impressive, the work they were typically on are much harder than anything down here. Arriva have wrecked numerous Enviro's on the X15/X18 in the same time which is similar work.

Jimmi



10,977
22 Jun 2023, 11:14 am #87
(22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am)toward6931 stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here

Was 13042 / SJ15PUX, which was one of their Volvo B5LH/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC examples.
Jimmi
22 Jun 2023, 11:14 am #87

(22 Jun 2023, 10:27 am)toward6931 stagecoach east Scotland have had one of their E400 MMCs go up in flames in Dundee yesterday, believe it was a 2015 example.

they don't have much luck in Scotland do they? i don't think they look after their vehicles aswell as down here

Was 13042 / SJ15PUX, which was one of their Volvo B5LH/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC examples.

22 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm #88
(22 Jun 2023, 10:50 am)Storx In fairness they had a very hard life, the fact they actually work is quite impressive, the work they were typically on are much harder than anything down here. Arriva have wrecked numerous Enviro's on the X15/X18 in the same time which is similar work.

to be honest I travelled on some of the scanias when they were at inverness back in 2017, im not sure which route it was, it went from inverness bus station out to Invergordon, it didn't feel a particularly hard run, a lot of it was like the central motorway in Newcastle
toward6931
22 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm #88

(22 Jun 2023, 10:50 am)Storx In fairness they had a very hard life, the fact they actually work is quite impressive, the work they were typically on are much harder than anything down here. Arriva have wrecked numerous Enviro's on the X15/X18 in the same time which is similar work.

to be honest I travelled on some of the scanias when they were at inverness back in 2017, im not sure which route it was, it went from inverness bus station out to Invergordon, it didn't feel a particularly hard run, a lot of it was like the central motorway in Newcastle

Storx



4,635
22 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm #89
(22 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm)toward6931 to be honest I travelled on some of the scanias when they were at inverness back in 2017, im not sure which route it was, it went from inverness bus station out to Invergordon, it didn't feel a particularly hard run, a lot of it was like the central motorway in Newcastle

There's three, one that goes via Dingwall, one via Evanton, then the express one which does roughly 15 miles non-stop all 60/70 mph.

https://bustimes.org/services/x25-alness...office#map - That one. Absolutely crippler when you put town buses on stuff like that designed to potter around housing estates. Ironically some of their sisters are on tonight which will no doubt end up here at some point.

Mind that said, they can keep the ex. Newcastle 57 Plate Enviro 400's on services daily from the Aviemore outstation and they do some right killers like the X37 - https://bustimes.org/services/x37-aviemo...r-park#map. Yet Newcastle can't keep them in service on the 22 so they must be doing something right. I'm always surprised how old the fleet is there and it always has been.
Storx
22 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm #89

(22 Jun 2023, 5:34 pm)toward6931 to be honest I travelled on some of the scanias when they were at inverness back in 2017, im not sure which route it was, it went from inverness bus station out to Invergordon, it didn't feel a particularly hard run, a lot of it was like the central motorway in Newcastle

There's three, one that goes via Dingwall, one via Evanton, then the express one which does roughly 15 miles non-stop all 60/70 mph.

https://bustimes.org/services/x25-alness...office#map - That one. Absolutely crippler when you put town buses on stuff like that designed to potter around housing estates. Ironically some of their sisters are on tonight which will no doubt end up here at some point.

Mind that said, they can keep the ex. Newcastle 57 Plate Enviro 400's on services daily from the Aviemore outstation and they do some right killers like the X37 - https://bustimes.org/services/x37-aviemo...r-park#map. Yet Newcastle can't keep them in service on the 22 so they must be doing something right. I'm always surprised how old the fleet is there and it always has been.

F114TML



909
25 Jun 2023, 11:54 am #90
Not too surprising but 28016 appears to be getting scrapped, following its accident last month. Shame, cos it was a good one.
F114TML
25 Jun 2023, 11:54 am #90

Not too surprising but 28016 appears to be getting scrapped, following its accident last month. Shame, cos it was a good one.

Kuyoyo



6,856
25 Jun 2023, 12:25 pm #91
(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

The E350Hs were never going to be offered for cascade - the original plan was for the ex-Perth Gold-spec examples to move to Peterhead alongside the 3 2013 examples, with the original Bluebird examples being used as a source of spares. That plan was dropped when they checked their condition. Given the rarity of the E350Hs in the country, let alone the Stagecoach fleet, meant it was easier to bin them off than pay for work on them. Incidentally, the 4 examples with First’s Essex operation are also now heading for scrap.
Kuyoyo
25 Jun 2023, 12:25 pm #91

(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

The E350Hs were never going to be offered for cascade - the original plan was for the ex-Perth Gold-spec examples to move to Peterhead alongside the 3 2013 examples, with the original Bluebird examples being used as a source of spares. That plan was dropped when they checked their condition. Given the rarity of the E350Hs in the country, let alone the Stagecoach fleet, meant it was easier to bin them off than pay for work on them. Incidentally, the 4 examples with First’s Essex operation are also now heading for scrap.

Kuyoyo



6,856
25 Jun 2023, 12:36 pm #92
(22 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm)Storx There's three, one that goes via Dingwall, one via Evanton, then the express one which does roughly 15 miles non-stop all 60/70 mph.

https://bustimes.org/services/x25-alness...office#map - That one. Absolutely crippler when you put town buses on stuff like that designed to potter around housing estates. Ironically some of their sisters are on tonight which will no doubt end up here at some point.

Mind that said, they can keep the ex. Newcastle 57 Plate Enviro 400's on services daily from the Aviemore outstation and they do some right killers like the X37 - https://bustimes.org/services/x37-aviemo...r-park#map. Yet Newcastle can't keep them in service on the 22 so they must be doing something right. I'm always surprised how old the fleet is there and it always has been.

The ex-Newcastle E400s haven’t got long left with Highlands - the first of their replacements, in the form of 17 E400MMCs, arrived at Inverness depot on Friday evening. Alongside 20 B8RLE/Evoras (16 12.8m and 4 10.8m) and 3 Scania Moni-People Explorers (for use on the Tain area schools) will see all classic-style Enviros in the Inverness/Aviemore/Tain area withdrawn as well as the 62 plate Volvo B13RTs at Tain. Tain will gain the 4 E200MMCs from Inverness for use on the 25/25A/X25 and these have been re-registered with X25xxx private registrations recently.
Kuyoyo
25 Jun 2023, 12:36 pm #92

(22 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm)Storx There's three, one that goes via Dingwall, one via Evanton, then the express one which does roughly 15 miles non-stop all 60/70 mph.

https://bustimes.org/services/x25-alness...office#map - That one. Absolutely crippler when you put town buses on stuff like that designed to potter around housing estates. Ironically some of their sisters are on tonight which will no doubt end up here at some point.

Mind that said, they can keep the ex. Newcastle 57 Plate Enviro 400's on services daily from the Aviemore outstation and they do some right killers like the X37 - https://bustimes.org/services/x37-aviemo...r-park#map. Yet Newcastle can't keep them in service on the 22 so they must be doing something right. I'm always surprised how old the fleet is there and it always has been.

The ex-Newcastle E400s haven’t got long left with Highlands - the first of their replacements, in the form of 17 E400MMCs, arrived at Inverness depot on Friday evening. Alongside 20 B8RLE/Evoras (16 12.8m and 4 10.8m) and 3 Scania Moni-People Explorers (for use on the Tain area schools) will see all classic-style Enviros in the Inverness/Aviemore/Tain area withdrawn as well as the 62 plate Volvo B13RTs at Tain. Tain will gain the 4 E200MMCs from Inverness for use on the 25/25A/X25 and these have been re-registered with X25xxx private registrations recently.

25 Jun 2023, 2:20 pm #93
(25 Jun 2023, 12:36 pm)Kuyoyo The ex-Newcastle E400s haven’t got long left with Highlands - the first of their replacements, in the form of 17 E400MMCs, arrived at Inverness depot on Friday evening. Alongside 20 B8RLE/Evoras (16 12.8m and 4 10.8m) and 3 Scania Moni-People Explorers (for use on the Tain area schools) will see all classic-style Enviros in the Inverness/Aviemore/Tain area withdrawn as well as the 62 plate Volvo B13RTs at Tain. Tain will gain the 4 E200MMCs from Inverness for use on the 25/25A/X25 and these have been re-registered with X25xxx private registrations recently.

the speed at which the scottish divisions burn through vehicles (sometimes quite literally), i cant see 17 brand new vehicles lasting unscathed for long
toward6931
25 Jun 2023, 2:20 pm #93

(25 Jun 2023, 12:36 pm)Kuyoyo The ex-Newcastle E400s haven’t got long left with Highlands - the first of their replacements, in the form of 17 E400MMCs, arrived at Inverness depot on Friday evening. Alongside 20 B8RLE/Evoras (16 12.8m and 4 10.8m) and 3 Scania Moni-People Explorers (for use on the Tain area schools) will see all classic-style Enviros in the Inverness/Aviemore/Tain area withdrawn as well as the 62 plate Volvo B13RTs at Tain. Tain will gain the 4 E200MMCs from Inverness for use on the 25/25A/X25 and these have been re-registered with X25xxx private registrations recently.

the speed at which the scottish divisions burn through vehicles (sometimes quite literally), i cant see 17 brand new vehicles lasting unscathed for long

25 Jun 2023, 5:20 pm #94
(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

To be fair some of our native E300s are in a pretty poor state, travelled on a few of the orignal Es batch recently and they didn't sound too healthy, even driver was complaining about one of them having no power.  Not sure if it's just the tracking as well but 27731 appears to have been off for nearly 3 months.

I know the gas buses get slated on here but a few of them I travelled on around the same time still seemed smooth and pretty 'new' looking inside.
stagecoachbusdepot
25 Jun 2023, 5:20 pm #94

(22 Jun 2023, 10:41 am)54APhotography You have a point. The state of some of the E300s that arrived here in were shocking. The E350H that could have been cascaded are rated amongst the worst of the lot for condition ..

To be fair some of our native E300s are in a pretty poor state, travelled on a few of the orignal Es batch recently and they didn't sound too healthy, even driver was complaining about one of them having no power.  Not sure if it's just the tracking as well but 27731 appears to have been off for nearly 3 months.

I know the gas buses get slated on here but a few of them I travelled on around the same time still seemed smooth and pretty 'new' looking inside.

F114TML



909
26 Jun 2023, 8:45 am #95
(25 Jun 2023, 5:20 pm)stagecoachbusdepot To be fair some of our native E300s are in a pretty poor state, travelled on a few of the orignal Es batch recently and they didn't sound too healthy, even driver was complaining about one of them having no power.  Not sure if it's just the tracking as well but 27731 appears to have been off for nearly 3 months.

I know the gas buses get slated on here but a few of them I travelled on around the same time still seemed smooth and pretty 'new' looking inside.

If it has the hot exhaust light on, you really start to feel it after a few weeks/months (36980 is notorious for it, last time I had it I couldn't get it above 25 past the eye infirmary on the 10, and many months ago I went up Greenbank Drive in it at about 8mph; most buses can at least get up to 15) - could be one of them. Equally, I had 27734 the other night on the 3s and 20s - horrifically slow, particularly uphill but seemed to get better after a while (no exhaust light), seems to be an outlier.

As for the gasbuses, some of them are starting to show their age but a lot of them are really good, very smooth and a fair few have a good bit of kick behind them.
F114TML
26 Jun 2023, 8:45 am #95

(25 Jun 2023, 5:20 pm)stagecoachbusdepot To be fair some of our native E300s are in a pretty poor state, travelled on a few of the orignal Es batch recently and they didn't sound too healthy, even driver was complaining about one of them having no power.  Not sure if it's just the tracking as well but 27731 appears to have been off for nearly 3 months.

I know the gas buses get slated on here but a few of them I travelled on around the same time still seemed smooth and pretty 'new' looking inside.

If it has the hot exhaust light on, you really start to feel it after a few weeks/months (36980 is notorious for it, last time I had it I couldn't get it above 25 past the eye infirmary on the 10, and many months ago I went up Greenbank Drive in it at about 8mph; most buses can at least get up to 15) - could be one of them. Equally, I had 27734 the other night on the 3s and 20s - horrifically slow, particularly uphill but seemed to get better after a while (no exhaust light), seems to be an outlier.

As for the gasbuses, some of them are starting to show their age but a lot of them are really good, very smooth and a fair few have a good bit of kick behind them.

26 Jun 2023, 1:35 pm #96
(26 Jun 2023, 8:45 am)F114TML If it has the hot exhaust light on, you really start to feel it after a few weeks/months (36980 is notorious for it, last time I had it I couldn't get it above 25 past the eye infirmary on the 10, and many months ago I went up Greenbank Drive in it at about 8mph; most buses can at least get up to 15) - could be one of them. Equally, I had 27734 the other night on the 3s and 20s - horrifically slow, particularly uphill but seemed to get better after a while (no exhaust light), seems to be an outlier.

As for the gasbuses, some of them are starting to show their age but a lot of them are really good, very smooth and a fair few have a good bit of kick behind them.

It was the 277xx batch I noticied it on, 27732 was especially bad.
stagecoachbusdepot
26 Jun 2023, 1:35 pm #96

(26 Jun 2023, 8:45 am)F114TML If it has the hot exhaust light on, you really start to feel it after a few weeks/months (36980 is notorious for it, last time I had it I couldn't get it above 25 past the eye infirmary on the 10, and many months ago I went up Greenbank Drive in it at about 8mph; most buses can at least get up to 15) - could be one of them. Equally, I had 27734 the other night on the 3s and 20s - horrifically slow, particularly uphill but seemed to get better after a while (no exhaust light), seems to be an outlier.

As for the gasbuses, some of them are starting to show their age but a lot of them are really good, very smooth and a fair few have a good bit of kick behind them.

It was the 277xx batch I noticied it on, 27732 was especially bad.

Storx



4,635
28 Jun 2023, 9:09 pm #97
Interesting to see that Stagecoach Highlands are getting 37 new buses due now to replace the remaining Enviro's they've got. Be interesting to see if the remainder of the Enviro 300's end up here. We've had the rest. There's another 10 in service up there excluding the 57 plates.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/sta...88/page-33 - Details here on new buses.
Storx
28 Jun 2023, 9:09 pm #97

Interesting to see that Stagecoach Highlands are getting 37 new buses due now to replace the remaining Enviro's they've got. Be interesting to see if the remainder of the Enviro 300's end up here. We've had the rest. There's another 10 in service up there excluding the 57 plates.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/sta...88/page-33 - Details here on new buses.

Michael



19,177
03 Jul 2023, 1:50 pm #98
I know bustimes isn't that accurate but

28036
28037
28038
28039
28040

Have all been removed from service.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
03 Jul 2023, 1:50 pm #98

I know bustimes isn't that accurate but

28036
28037
28038
28039
28040

Have all been removed from service.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

F114TML



909
05 Jul 2023, 6:12 pm #99
They haven't been withdrawn. 28040 was on the X24 today.
F114TML
05 Jul 2023, 6:12 pm #99

They haven't been withdrawn. 28040 was on the X24 today.

Unber43



3,567
24 Aug 2023, 9:36 am #100
Do SC regret getting gas buses, wonder if they'd been better getting a fleet of eclipses.
Unber43
24 Aug 2023, 9:36 am #100

Do SC regret getting gas buses, wonder if they'd been better getting a fleet of eclipses.

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