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Michael

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09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm #1

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (309, 307) North Shields Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X39 (X39) Cobalt Park Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 (352) Cramlington Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (355) Forest Hall Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED AD122 (AD122, AD12) Walltown Roman Army Museum Hexham

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Michael

09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm #1

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

MurdnunoC

3,975

09 Feb 2024, 6:26 pm #2

(09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm)Michael PB0003954/304
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (309, 307) North Shields Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 354 (354) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1388
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 353 (353) North Shields Cramlington

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1) Whitley Bay Metrocentre

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 687 (687) Newbrough Hexham

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 684 (684) Hexham Newcastle
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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 891 St Thomas More Catholic Scool Wooside -

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 876 Hamsterley Mill Thorp Academy

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X39 (X39) Cobalt Park Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X66 (X66) Metrocentre Gateshead Metro

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 41 (41, 41A) Hadrian Park Wallsend

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10, 10A, 10B) Hexham / Prudhoe / Blackhall Mill Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 (352) Cramlington Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (355) Forest Hall Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED AD122 (AD122, AD12) Walltown Roman Army Museum Hexham

I heard everything is getting merged into one large service like this:

Cramlington - Blyth - Whitley Bay - Cullercoats - Tynemouth - North Shields - Billy Mill International - Rake Lane Hospital - Cobalt - Silverlink- Percy Main - Howdon - Hadrian Park - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle- Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Metrocentre - Denton Burn - Throckley - Heddon - Wylam - Ovingham - Ovington - Corbridge - Hexham - Newbrough.

Every 20 mins.

X39 will have some extra journeys added.

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MurdnunoC

09 Feb 2024, 6:26 pm #2

(09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm)Michael PB0003954/304
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (309, 307) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1389
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 354 (354) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1388
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 353 (353) North Shields Cramlington

PB0003954/1221
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1) Whitley Bay Metrocentre

PB0003954/1194
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 687 (687) Newbrough Hexham

PB0003954/1198
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 684 (684) Hexham Newcastle
PB0003954/1350
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 891 St Thomas More Catholic Scool Wooside -

PB0003954/1261
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 876 Hamsterley Mill Thorp Academy

PB0003954/1377
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X39 (X39) Cobalt Park Newcastle

PB0003954/808
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X66 (X66) Metrocentre Gateshead Metro

PB0003954/1151
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 41 (41, 41A) Hadrian Park Wallsend

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10, 10A, 10B) Hexham / Prudhoe / Blackhall Mill Newcastle

PB0003954/1387
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 (352) Cramlington Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (355) Forest Hall Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED AD122 (AD122, AD12) Walltown Roman Army Museum Hexham

L469 YVK

3,549

09 Feb 2024, 6:32 pm #3

(09 Feb 2024, 6:26 pm)MurdnunoC I heard everything is getting merged into one large service like this:

Cramlington - Blyth - Whitley Bay - Cullercoats - Tynemouth - North Shields - Billy Mill International - Rake Lane Hospital - Cobalt - Silverlink- Percy Main - Howdon - Hadrian Park - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle- Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Metrocentre - Denton Burn - Throckley - Heddon - Wylam - Ovingham - Ovington - Corbridge - Hexham - Newbrough.

Every 20 mins.

X39 will have some extra journeys added.

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X39 asides, it's not the first of April yet!

L469 YVK

09 Feb 2024, 6:32 pm #3

(09 Feb 2024, 6:26 pm)MurdnunoC I heard everything is getting merged into one large service like this:

Cramlington - Blyth - Whitley Bay - Cullercoats - Tynemouth - North Shields - Billy Mill International - Rake Lane Hospital - Cobalt - Silverlink- Percy Main - Howdon - Hadrian Park - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle- Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Metrocentre - Denton Burn - Throckley - Heddon - Wylam - Ovingham - Ovington - Corbridge - Hexham - Newbrough.

Every 20 mins.

X39 will have some extra journeys added.

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X39 asides, it's not the first of April yet!

MurdnunoC

3,975

09 Feb 2024, 6:35 pm #4

(09 Feb 2024, 6:32 pm)L469 YVK X39 asides, it's not the first of April yet!

You should tell yourself that the next time you come up with a Coast Road suggestion or variation.

Besides, this service goes to Billy Mill International. The metropolis of Tyne and Wear.

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MurdnunoC

09 Feb 2024, 6:35 pm #4

(09 Feb 2024, 6:32 pm)L469 YVK X39 asides, it's not the first of April yet!

L469 YVK

3,549

09 Feb 2024, 6:37 pm #5

Don't see any major changes looking at them, think most likely timetable changes.

Let's hope Hadrian Park haven't kicked off since the 2330 310 got changed to a 2345 309 otherwise it will be back to long walks if last bus is changed back to a 307!

L469 YVK

09 Feb 2024, 6:37 pm #5

L469 YVK

3,549

11 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm #6

Another thought......if more time is needed on the 309 due to NT Council's s*** traffic management plus a 20 minute frequency via High Farm being enough with deckers on the 307, would a re-route of daytime 309 services via Selby Gardens not be on the cards? Some early morning and all evening services could still run via High Farm to give a regular 30 minute service like now.

L469 YVK

11 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm #6

Aaron21

784

11 Feb 2024, 6:33 pm #7

(11 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm)L469 YVK Another thought......if more time is needed on the 309 due to NT Council's s*** traffic management plus a 20 minute frequency via High Farm being enough with deckers on the 307, would a re-route of daytime 309 services via Selby Gardens not be on the cards? Some early morning and all evening services could still run via High Farm to give a regular 30 minute service like now.

Probably wanted to make it every 10 minute along Mullen Road (for whatever reason) since Mullen Road now has the 41/41A/335/307/309 all going along it to Battle Hill

Aaron21

11 Feb 2024, 6:33 pm #7

(11 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm)L469 YVK Another thought......if more time is needed on the 309 due to NT Council's s*** traffic management plus a 20 minute frequency via High Farm being enough with deckers on the 307, would a re-route of daytime 309 services via Selby Gardens not be on the cards? Some early morning and all evening services could still run via High Farm to give a regular 30 minute service like now.

Probably wanted to make it every 10 minute along Mullen Road (for whatever reason) since Mullen Road now has the 41/41A/335/307/309 all going along it to Battle Hill

L469 YVK

3,549

11 Feb 2024, 7:53 pm #8

(11 Feb 2024, 6:33 pm)Aaron21 Probably wanted to make it every 10 minute along Mullen Road (for whatever reason) since Mullen Road now has the 41/41A/335/307/309 all going along it to Battle Hill

I think a 20 minute service using deckers should be sufficient with the 307 alone. But the traffic situation is only going to get worse around Whitley Bay and Preston Grange.

L469 YVK

11 Feb 2024, 7:53 pm #8

(11 Feb 2024, 6:33 pm)Aaron21 Probably wanted to make it every 10 minute along Mullen Road (for whatever reason) since Mullen Road now has the 41/41A/335/307/309 all going along it to Battle Hill

I think a 20 minute service using deckers should be sufficient with the 307 alone. But the traffic situation is only going to get worse around Whitley Bay and Preston Grange.

V514DFT

2,241

11 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm #9

Im surprised to see the 41 clinging on for dear life

V514DFT

11 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm #9

Im surprised to see the 41 clinging on for dear life

Aaron21

784

11 Feb 2024, 8:50 pm #10

(11 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm)V514DFT Im surprised to see the 41 clinging on for dear life

Long as they withdrawn the 41A and reroute the 41 to go via Wiltshire Drive. The absolute hell that is going on is shocking the fact they can't even keep to timetable and the fact 99% of the time the 41 is being followed by a 41A or you have two 41A following each other.

Aaron21

11 Feb 2024, 8:50 pm #10

(11 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm)V514DFT Im surprised to see the 41 clinging on for dear life

Ambassador

1,855

11 Feb 2024, 9:44 pm #11

Interested to see the X39 changes, wonder if it’ll be a response to the 22X nicking most of the custom

Ambassador

11 Feb 2024, 9:44 pm #11

Interested to see the X39 changes, wonder if it’ll be a response to the 22X nicking most of the custom

L469 YVK

3,549

11 Feb 2024, 10:51 pm #12

Well working out the 308 & 309, the 309 dropping High Farm would save 2 minutes in each direction. So would create an 8/12 split between the 308 & 309 between NT Hospital & Blyth although still some even headway. Then for the time saved not serving High Farm, could then re-time the 308 & 309

308 / 309
Blyth: 09:51 / 10:03
Whitley Bay Cemetery: 10:07 / 10:19
Whiltley Bay Centre: 10:19 / 10:31 (+2 mins)
NT Hospital: 10:27 / 10:39 (+1 min)
New York Greenlea (309): 10:44 (+2 mins)
Billy Mill (308): 10:36 (+2 mins)
Newcastle: 11:03 / 11:18

308 would have 5 minutes layover in Blyth and 309 would have 7 minutes.

L469 YVK

11 Feb 2024, 10:51 pm #12

Thomas12

467

11 Feb 2024, 11:31 pm #13

(11 Feb 2024, 10:51 pm)L469 YVK Well working out the 308 & 309, the 309 dropping High Farm would save 2 minutes in each direction. So would create an 8/12 split between the 308 & 309 between NT Hospital & Blyth although still some even headway. Then for the time saved not serving High Farm, could then re-time the 308 & 309

308 / 309
Blyth: 09:51 / 10:03
Whitley Bay Cemetery: 10:07 / 10:19
Whiltley Bay Centre: 10:19 / 10:31 (+2 mins)
NT Hospital: 10:27 / 10:39 (+1 min)
New York Greenlea (309): 10:44 (+2 mins)
Billy Mill (308): 10:36 (+2 mins)
Newcastle: 11:03 / 11:18

308 would have 5 minutes layover in Blyth and 309 would have 7 minutes.

Starting to get sick of these repetitive boring posts about the Coast Road services

Go north east and Arriva have entered into an enhanced partnership agreement. So are services likely to change significantly? No

Thomas12

11 Feb 2024, 11:31 pm #13

(11 Feb 2024, 10:51 pm)L469 YVK Well working out the 308 & 309, the 309 dropping High Farm would save 2 minutes in each direction. So would create an 8/12 split between the 308 & 309 between NT Hospital & Blyth although still some even headway. Then for the time saved not serving High Farm, could then re-time the 308 & 309

308 / 309
Blyth: 09:51 / 10:03
Whitley Bay Cemetery: 10:07 / 10:19
Whiltley Bay Centre: 10:19 / 10:31 (+2 mins)
NT Hospital: 10:27 / 10:39 (+1 min)
New York Greenlea (309): 10:44 (+2 mins)
Billy Mill (308): 10:36 (+2 mins)
Newcastle: 11:03 / 11:18

308 would have 5 minutes layover in Blyth and 309 would have 7 minutes.

L469 YVK

3,549

12 Feb 2024, 2:11 pm #14

(11 Feb 2024, 11:31 pm)Thomas12 Starting to get sick of these repetitive boring posts about the Coast Road services

Go north east and Arriva have entered into an enhanced partnership agreement. So are services likely to change significantly

Well not significantly, but both GNE & Arriva are going to need to find the time from somewhere with the ever increasing congestion levels around Whitley Bay, Foxhunters and Preston Grange.

L469 YVK

12 Feb 2024, 2:11 pm #14

(11 Feb 2024, 11:31 pm)Thomas12 Starting to get sick of these repetitive boring posts about the Coast Road services

Go north east and Arriva have entered into an enhanced partnership agreement. So are services likely to change significantly

Well not significantly, but both GNE & Arriva are going to need to find the time from somewhere with the ever increasing congestion levels around Whitley Bay, Foxhunters and Preston Grange.

RobinHood

638

12 Feb 2024, 8:37 pm #15

(12 Feb 2024, 2:11 pm)L469 YVK Well not significantly, but both GNE & Arriva are going to need to find the time from somewhere with the ever increasing congestion levels around Whitley Bay, Foxhunters and Preston Grange.

Why should they? The continual slowing of bus services due to poorly planned developments increasing congestion should not be the responsibly of the bus operator to resolve, nor should it be the passenger penalised.

The local authorities need to provide major and significantly beneficial bus priority.

However, as we all know, promoting the bus over the car and throwing money that goes against the private motorist isn't a vote winner, so nobody will do it and we end up with slow public transport and frequency reductions to permit reinvestment of running time.

Edited 12 Feb 2024, 8:38 pm by RobinHood.

RobinHood

12 Feb 2024, 8:37 pm #15

(12 Feb 2024, 2:11 pm)L469 YVK Well not significantly, but both GNE & Arriva are going to need to find the time from somewhere with the ever increasing congestion levels around Whitley Bay, Foxhunters and Preston Grange.

Storx

4,584

12 Feb 2024, 8:41 pm #16

(12 Feb 2024, 8:37 pm)RobinHood Why should they? The continual slowing of bus services due to poorly planned developments increasing congestion should not be the responsibly of the bus operator to resolve, nor should it be the passenger penalised.

The local authorities need to provide major and significantly beneficial bus priority.

However, as we all know, promoting the bus over the car and throwing money that goes against the private motorist isn't a vote winner, so nobody will do it and we end up with slow public transport and frequency reductions to permit reinvestment of running time.

You're so right, the ironic part of it all, is the congestion is being caused by cycle lanes being stuck in everywhere, in completely inappropiate places. I'm all for cycle lanes but not at the cost of public transport and it's not the first time either.

Storx

12 Feb 2024, 8:41 pm #16

(12 Feb 2024, 8:37 pm)RobinHood Why should they? The continual slowing of bus services due to poorly planned developments increasing congestion should not be the responsibly of the bus operator to resolve, nor should it be the passenger penalised.

The local authorities need to provide major and significantly beneficial bus priority.

However, as we all know, promoting the bus over the car and throwing money that goes against the private motorist isn't a vote winner, so nobody will do it and we end up with slow public transport and frequency reductions to permit reinvestment of running time.

L469 YVK

3,549

12 Feb 2024, 9:29 pm #17

(12 Feb 2024, 8:41 pm)Storx You're so right, the ironic part of it all, is the congestion is being caused by cycle lanes being stuck in everywhere, in completely inappropiate places. I'm all for cycle lanes but not at the cost of public transport and it's not the first time either.

308 far cry from the days when the driver could rock up to the awaiting Leyland / Volvo Olympian, Scania N113, Lowlander......then give it the beans with no traffic calming measures!

Rake Lane is a complete and utter mess! Agree with the comments about why should operators budge.

I'm sure GNE, Arriva and TNE will work something out. But think the only way to add time will be for GNE to drop High Farm on the 309 during the day and run back via Selby Gardens.

Any sunny Sundays usually spell chaos on the 308 & 309. At least passengers on the 307 no longer have to suffer unlike when the 310 used to regularly have to go light to Verne Road / North Shields after severe late running on the 309 on Bank Holidays or busy Sundays.

L469 YVK

12 Feb 2024, 9:29 pm #17

(12 Feb 2024, 8:41 pm)Storx You're so right, the ironic part of it all, is the congestion is being caused by cycle lanes being stuck in everywhere, in completely inappropiate places. I'm all for cycle lanes but not at the cost of public transport and it's not the first time either.

DaveFromUpNorth

146

12 Feb 2024, 9:36 pm #18

Where can you find the draft timetables?

DaveFromUpNorth

12 Feb 2024, 9:36 pm #18

Where can you find the draft timetables?

Michael

19,168

12 Feb 2024, 10:15 pm #19

(09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm)Michael PB0003954/304
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (309, 307) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1389
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 354 (354) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1388
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 353 (353) North Shields Cramlington

PB0003954/1221
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1) Whitley Bay Metrocentre

PB0003954/1194
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 687 (687) Newbrough Hexham

PB0003954/1198
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 684 (684) Hexham Newcastle
PB0003954/1350
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 891 St Thomas More Catholic Scool Wooside -

PB0003954/1261
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 876 Hamsterley Mill Thorp Academy

PB0003954/1377
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X39 (X39) Cobalt Park Newcastle

PB0003954/808
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X66 (X66) Metrocentre Gateshead Metro

PB0003954/1151
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 41 (41, 41A) Hadrian Park Wallsend

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10, 10A, 10B) Hexham / Prudhoe / Blackhall Mill Newcastle

PB0003954/1387
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 (352) Cramlington Newcastle

PB0003954/1390
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (355) Forest Hall Newcastle

PB0003954/1156
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED AD122 (AD122, AD12) Walltown Roman Army Museum Hexham

https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0003954

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

12 Feb 2024, 10:15 pm #19

(09 Feb 2024, 6:17 pm)Michael PB0003954/304
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 309 (309, 307) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1389
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 354 (354) North Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1388
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 353 (353) North Shields Cramlington

PB0003954/1221
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (1) Whitley Bay Metrocentre

PB0003954/1194
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 687 (687) Newbrough Hexham

PB0003954/1198
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 684 (684) Hexham Newcastle
PB0003954/1350
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 891 St Thomas More Catholic Scool Wooside -

PB0003954/1261
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 876 Hamsterley Mill Thorp Academy

PB0003954/1377
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X39 (X39) Cobalt Park Newcastle

PB0003954/808
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X66 (X66) Metrocentre Gateshead Metro

PB0003954/1151
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 41 (41, 41A) Hadrian Park Wallsend

PB0003954/559
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 10 (10, 10A, 10B) Hexham / Prudhoe / Blackhall Mill Newcastle

PB0003954/1387
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 352 (352) Cramlington Newcastle

PB0003954/1390
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 355 (355) Forest Hall Newcastle

PB0003954/1156
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED AD122 (AD122, AD12) Walltown Roman Army Museum Hexham

https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0003954

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT

2,241

12 Feb 2024, 11:19 pm #20

Is the 309 a mistake?, or has the 307 been canned

V514DFT

12 Feb 2024, 11:19 pm #20

Is the 309 a mistake?, or has the 307 been canned

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