(10 Dec 2021, 8:04 pm)ThomasBooth123 wrote The short 35 to wansbeck road metro also has the M

(10 Dec 2021, 7:59 pm)ne14ne1 wrote First time I’ve seen the Metro ‘M’ symbol used on a Stagecoach destination: https://flic.kr/p/2mPY37n 

Could’ve been a bit bigger but nice it features nonetheless. Also, do you think it’s been included purely because it’s short-route destination so there was room for it? 

GNE only seem to include ‘M’ symbols on their Metro replacement buses - only if it’s a Streetdeck with double height destination screens:  https://flic.kr/p/2mPELpY

I always think the likes of GNE’s route 1 should have a ‘M’ symbol on their destination screens to indicate where in Gateshead it actually terminates. If there’s no room then maybe add ‘Int.’ for interchange.
‘Gateshead’ is rather vague.

(10 Dec 2021, 7:59 pm)ne14ne1 wrote First time I’ve seen the Metro ‘M’ symbol used on a Stagecoach destination: https://flic.kr/p/2mPY37n 

Could’ve been a bit bigger but nice it features nonetheless. Also, do you think it’s been included purely because it’s short-route destination so there was room for it? 

GNE only seem to include ‘M’ symbols on their Metro replacement buses - only if it’s a Streetdeck with double height destination screens:  https://flic.kr/p/2mPELpY

I always think the likes of GNE’s route 1 should have a ‘M’ symbol on their destination screens to indicate where in Gateshead it actually terminates. If there’s no room then maybe add ‘Int.’ for interchange.
‘Gateshead’ is rather vague.

(10 Dec 2021, 7:59 pm)ne14ne1 wrote First time I’ve seen the Metro ‘M’ symbol used on a Stagecoach destination: https://flic.kr/p/2mPY37n 

Could’ve been a bit bigger but nice it features nonetheless. Also, do you think it’s been included purely because it’s short-route destination so there was room for it? 

GNE only seem to include ‘M’ symbols on their Metro replacement buses - only if it’s a Streetdeck with double height destination screens:  https://flic.kr/p/2mPELpY

I always think the likes of GNE’s route 1 should have a ‘M’ symbol on their destination screens to indicate where in Gateshead it actually terminates. If there’s no room then maybe add ‘Int.’ for interchange.
‘Gateshead’ is rather vague.

I always think the likes of GNE’s route 1 should have a ‘M’ symbol on their destination screens to indicate where in Gateshead it actually terminates. If there’s no room then maybe add ‘Int.’ for interchange.
‘Gateshead’ is rather vague.

(11 Dec 2021, 6:31 pm)S813 FVK wrote Go North East appear to be giving the 'On Diversion' a go:

Go North East 6363/NK70 BYN by Garry McLeary, on Flickr

As one would expect, pretty clear on these displays. Would be interested to see how it's being done on the regular single-screen displays. Lothian have had to reduce theirs down to a symbol tucked to the side with no text.

(11 Dec 2021, 6:31 pm)S813 FVK wrote Go North East appear to be giving the 'On Diversion' a go:

Go North East 6363/NK70 BYN by Garry McLeary, on Flickr

As one would expect, pretty clear on these displays. Would be interested to see how it's being done on the regular single-screen displays. Lothian have had to reduce theirs down to a symbol tucked to the side with no text.

(12 Dec 2021, 11:12 am)Andreos1 wrote I might be missing something. Where is the diversion and what part of the route is it missing?

(12 Dec 2021, 10:55 am)RMF1254 wrote The’M’ was used a lot by all three major operators after Metro Integration, to show services terminating at Metro Stations. I seem to remember that they were phased out after deregulation.

(12 Dec 2021, 11:12 am)Andreos1 wrote I might be missing something. Where is the diversion and what part of the route is it missing?

(12 Dec 2021, 1:35 pm)streetdeckfan wrote There's that, but I'm also left thinking what is the point.
Is it to stop people trying to hail the bus along the diverted route?

(12 Dec 2021, 11:21 am)citaro5284 wrote And when I am in Edinburgh....I think the same

https://www.flickr.com/photos/busmanscotland/51340917503/in/photolist-2mdPC5P-LgGRX5-2kYcWVG-2mcLSu1-2kYyhPz-2kYNsnt-2mpPWsS-2m3C4dj-2c7sFJV-2jwQJrF-2kDnUXG-2mHphv2-2mNYh1k-2kt1EQj-2mPwxFL-2mvZcnj-2mgrPzR-2ezMHyF-2mNX6J9-2mgnPki-2iSRnNU-2m7geDw-2mMwZCY-2m1Ck5q-2kSZEeF-2kXWUqi-2mLNVMY-2mMNNjm-2iG14oM-2kYN3eT-2iG14rs-2mHJeae-2jd2bAv-2m3QzM6-2maZgkA-2m8gTwD-2mhtAY4-2m2hHV2-2krJrNG-2kY5maM-2mHuy2M-2mFDfMH-2m9YQPM-9piZfw-2mj7xip-2mcQDcF-MAy2ba-2mGBViV-2m4EFxe-2m5eYi3

(12 Dec 2021, 1:35 pm)streetdeckfan wrote There's that, but I'm also left thinking what is the point.
Is it to stop people trying to hail the bus along the diverted route?

(12 Dec 2021, 11:21 am)citaro5284 wrote And when I am in Edinburgh....I think the same

https://www.flickr.com/photos/busmanscotland/51340917503/in/photolist-2mdPC5P-LgGRX5-2kYcWVG-2mcLSu1-2kYyhPz-2kYNsnt-2mpPWsS-2m3C4dj-2c7sFJV-2jwQJrF-2kDnUXG-2mHphv2-2mNYh1k-2kt1EQj-2mPwxFL-2mvZcnj-2mgrPzR-2ezMHyF-2mNX6J9-2mgnPki-2iSRnNU-2m7geDw-2mMwZCY-2m1Ck5q-2kSZEeF-2kXWUqi-2mLNVMY-2mMNNjm-2iG14oM-2kYN3eT-2iG14rs-2mHJeae-2jd2bAv-2m3QzM6-2maZgkA-2m8gTwD-2mhtAY4-2m2hHV2-2krJrNG-2kY5maM-2mHuy2M-2mFDfMH-2m9YQPM-9piZfw-2mj7xip-2mcQDcF-MAy2ba-2mGBViV-2m4EFxe-2m5eYi3

(12 Dec 2021, 3:11 pm)Rob44 wrote well the buses i was on up there had the arrow as per the picture but then once on board the screen gave you loads of information about which road was closed, which bus stops on the road were out of use and which were the temporary stops so no confusion for me. Even the fun police though it was great and she normally moans about everything!

(12 Dec 2021, 3:24 pm)citaro5284 wrote Quite a few of their older deckers (now getting phased out), dont have any screens, so I wonder how that would work with them.

(12 Dec 2021, 3:39 pm)Rob44 wrote No idea but all the buses i used have the information screens and were showing what tickets you could buy, telling about the cap if you used the same debit/credit card for all journeys, information about the extension of the trams, what buses you need to get to specific place ( like the XX to the zoo or the YY to the castle. pleasant drivers who were happy to see you and said goodbye when you alighted. Great service.

(12 Dec 2021, 3:39 pm)Rob44 wrote No idea but all the buses i used have the information screens and were showing what tickets you could buy, telling about the cap if you used the same debit/credit card for all journeys, information about the extension of the trams, what buses you need to get to specific place ( like the XX to the zoo or the YY to the castle. pleasant drivers who were happy to see you and said goodbye when you alighted. Great service.

(12 Dec 2021, 4:27 pm)Dan wrote To be fair, you get most of this on a Go North East bus (those fitted with next stop announcements, anyway).

Be under no illusion that away from the main core network, Lothian have older buses without all the bells and whistles too, just like Go North East.

Appreciate other operators in the North East are lacking with this level of information on their screens.


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(12 Dec 2021, 4:36 pm)Rob44 wrote the main GNE buses i use dan are the 28a and 28b and the 29 so you can imagine the lothain buses i used to get around were positively luxurious

(12 Dec 2021, 4:44 pm)Dan wrote I can imagine, yes. These are the type of routes which made little to no profit pre-Covid and are likely to be hugely loss-making right now.

Lothian have routes like this themselves, where lower specification buses are allocated. Comparing apples with pears really!

Until just recently, Lothian were running 57/08-plate buses on frontline work which had no bells and whistles. The Versa used on the 28 were of an equal/higher specification (as the Lothian buses didn’t have Wi-Fi).

I love Edinburgh and very regularly visit - after a few times you can see it’s not as great as it’s made out to be, or how it feels once you’ve used a few buses in and out of Princes Street.


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(12 Dec 2021, 5:14 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Surely the ‘route diversion’ wording/symbol is displayed from the very beginning of the route so that all passengers boarding can ask the driver if they are unaware of the diverted route.

(12 Dec 2021, 4:44 pm)Dan wrote Until just recently, Lothian were running 57/08-plate buses on frontline work which had no bells and whistles. The Versa used on the 28 were of an equal/higher specification (as the Lothian buses didn’t have Wi-Fi).

I love Edinburgh and very regularly visit - after a few times you can see it’s not as great as it’s made out to be, or how it feels once you’ve used a few buses in and out of Princes Street.

(12 Dec 2021, 5:21 pm)citaro5284 wrote You could have a bus say leave Consett and by the time they get to the Redheugh Bridge there is an accident on it and it needs to be diverted say across the Tyne Bridge and miss out Central Station, but when the bus left Consett, nothing was wrong.