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Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 25 Sep 2013

Noticed this the other day but Nexus are no longer changing all bus timetables to include full details of changes.

Instead a yellow sticker has appeared with a note listing all services that have had changes and to contact Traveline or the bus company for more details.

Now whilst they were minor changes (ahem) a lot of services have had journeys cut out completely (21 and 28 for example) yet they still show on the timetables.

Seems a complete waste of time to bother having the timetables


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - idiot - 25 Sep 2013

Sticking up for Nexus but M1 etc is going to change soon, so the point in replacing all the timetables then changing a them again in a few weeks?!

Maybe if GNE never changed buses on a monthly basis if wouldn't happen.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - stagecoachbusdepot - 25 Sep 2013

You would think if they were going to bother going out to put a sticker on, they could go to that bit more effort and put a sticker showing the new timetable over the incorrect one. Saves replacing the whole thing if only one or two services have changed, yet remains useful for passengers.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Dan - 25 Sep 2013

What if a passenger cannot 'contact Traveline or the bus operator' and that run of the service has been withdrawn or changed so it terminates at a different place?
Thanks to Nexus, Go North East will now get 10 more complaints from Trent C. and general members of the public per day, and our friends Ian Hignett and Andy Clifford will spout out their usual responses - stating that it is Nexus' responsibility.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 25 Sep 2013

(25 Sep 2013, 4:30 pm)idiot wrote Sticking up for Nexus but M1 etc is going to change soon, so the point in replacing all the timetables then changing a them again in a few weeks?!

Maybe if GNE never changed buses on a monthly basis if wouldn't happen.

The M1 changing is of no consequence if your standing at Wrekenton wondering where the cancelled 28 is


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 25 Sep 2013

I should add, Nexus have bothered to update the My Journey site so everything is there, just cheap cost cutting


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - JakeSavage - 25 Sep 2013

Not always updated on the myjourneys website: my stops along Fenham Hall Drive haven't been update since the Stagecoach changes on 1 September, either online or at shelter.

Very poor.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Michael - 25 Sep 2013

Wonder if this is a threat against the companies.. were not gonna update many timetables etc if we don't take over your service's


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 25 Sep 2013

I'm not defending Nexus for this, as a sticker seems like a half hearted attempt.

Being realistic though, how long is the lead time at the print suppliers - bearing in mind the almost constant changes to timetables?

It must be like painting the Forth Bridge at times.

Speaking of which, I'm off to set up my own printing firm.
I will be tendering with GNE, SNE and ANE for timetables and Nexus for bus timetable inserts!


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - cbma06 - 25 Sep 2013

years and years ago, Nexus decided to do away of the travel guides and put more timetables onto bus stops of mostly as 1 bus stop then miss one then hit one etc..., also as the internet got more popular and this is when timetables were more available online, I do miss the S1,S2 etc.. travel guides though.

putting stickers on the timetables at the bus stop saying contact via travel line etc..., this is not new as there have done this before years ago when Nexus themselves were under a lot of pressure trying to update the timetables at the bus stops.

Ive already been told by Nexus that there are no plans to renew the bus maps on the nexus website as there have chosen to inform people to use the journey planner instead.

Maybe the metro link brand got scrapped due to bad feeling between GNE and Nexus due to the proposed QCS.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Adrian - 25 Sep 2013

(25 Sep 2013, 5:43 pm)cbma06 wrote Maybe the metro link brand got scrapped due to bad feeling between GNE and Nexus due to the proposed QCS.

The thought had crossed my mind.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Dan - 27 Sep 2013

Back on topic, and I've just noticed this at local bus stop too.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 28 Sep 2013

Thanks for the photo Dan.

Has anyone ever got those QR codes to work?

The ones at the bus stop in Birtley work (the Clearchannel interactive ads) but the Nexus one never seems to get picked up by Google Goggles or other scanners


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - citaro5284 - 28 Sep 2013

(28 Sep 2013, 11:38 am)gtomlinson wrote Thanks for the photo Dan.

Has anyone ever got those QR codes to work?

The ones at the bus stop in Birtley work (the Clearchannel interactive ads) but the Nexus one never seems to get picked up by Google Goggles or other scanners

Does anything from Nexus work Tongue


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 06 Oct 2013

The timetables have now been replaced, only a month and a bit on from the changes.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 21 Oct 2013

The stops I have used for the 4 have been changed and Mitie are currently doing updating others.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 15 Feb 2014

Never mind timetables, they need to get temporary stops sorted out.

Stood on Birtley Front Street, like a drowned rat earlier this morning waiting for a bus in either direction (I wasn't fussy, I just wanted to get out of the rain).
The two covered bus stands on the Front Street have been closed/replaced with a temporary one whilst they rebuild everything.
So passengers have to walk to the doctors/baths or to the cenotaph/fire station.

Absolutely ridiculous.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Adrian - 15 Feb 2014

(15 Feb 2014, 12:41 pm)andreos1 wrote Never mind timetables, they need to get temporary stops sorted out.

Stood on Birtley Front Street, like a drowned rat earlier this morning waiting for a bus in either direction (I wasn't fussy, I just wanted to get out of the rain).
The two covered bus stands on the Front Street have been closed/replaced with a temporary one whilst they rebuild everything.
So passengers have to walk to the doctors/baths or to the cenotaph/fire station.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Temporary stops should be outside signtech/Birtley snooker hall heading towards Chester Le Street, and just opposite towards Newcastle? They definitely have been when I've used them lately.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 15 Feb 2014

(15 Feb 2014, 1:46 pm)aureolin wrote Temporary stops should be outside signtech/Birtley snooker hall heading towards Chester Le Street, and just opposite towards Newcastle? They definitely have been when I've used them lately.

Sorry, just re-read my post.

Those temporary, uncovered, exposed bus stops you mentioned are still there.
The covered shelters outside Lloyds Bank or the snooker hall are out of use.

What I should have said, was that to get cover/protection from the elements, you need to walk to the doctors etc


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - idiot - 15 Feb 2014

No bus shelter anymore at Wheatsheaf/Tesco for the E's, 23 or 19. Either Roker Ave or Fulwell Rd as I found out this morning. The hard way.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 16 Feb 2014

(15 Feb 2014, 2:23 pm)andreos1 wrote Sorry, just re-read my post.

Those temporary, uncovered, exposed bus stops you mentioned are still there.
The covered shelters outside Lloyds Bank or the snooker hall are out of use.

What I should have said, was that to get cover/protection from the elements, you need to walk to the doctors etc

I imagine the reasoning is the cost of installing a temporary bus shelter would probably be very high.

The stop where TB14 and M2/3 stop opposite the BP garage in Birtley doesn't have a bus stop either.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:17 pm)gtom wrote I imagine the reasoning is the cost of installing a temporary bus shelter would probably be very high.

The stop where TB14 and M2/3 stop opposite the BP garage in Birtley doesn't have a bus stop either.

There was something published a few years back, which outlined the need to improve temporary stops.
It obviously hasn't came to fruition.

Granted, a week or two couldn't justify a shelter, but in this example, the two on Birtley Front Street, the time of year and the duration of the works, could justify a more hard standing solution.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:25 pm)andreos1 wrote There was something published a few years back, which outlined the need to improve temporary stops.
It obviously hasn't came to fruition.

Granted, a week or two couldn't justify a shelter, but in this example, the two on Birtley Front Street, the time of year and the duration of the works, could justify a more hard standing solution.

afaik the stop going Northbound is due to move back to its original imminently as demolition work and footpath closure is about to commence on the old standing Sommerfield store

Southbound stop is moving because its current location is about to become a signalised junction


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:28 pm)gtom wrote afaik the stop going Northbound is due to move back to its original imminently as demolition work and footpath closure is about to commence on the old standing Sommerfield store

Southbound stop is moving because its current location is about to become a signalised junction

Looking at the size of the hole and amount of pipework still be fitted, it will be a while before that one is reopened.
Southbound - the temporary stop is in the same location as the old one, just without a roof to protect you from the elements.
Both have been like that for a while now - evn if it is just temporary.

Somerfield?
Its still Presto man Wink


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Adrian - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:37 pm)andreos1 wrote Looking at the size of the hole and amount of pipework still be fitted, it will be a while before that one is reopened.
Southbound - the temporary stop is in the same location as the old one, just without a roof to protect you from the elements.
Both have been like that for a while now - evn if it is just temporary.

Somerfield?
Its still Presto man Wink

Blast from the past Smile seem to remember a big one near Sunderland? Not entirely sure where that was! Us Washington lot thought we were top dogs having a Gateway foodmarket though... Wink


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:42 pm)aureolin wrote Blast from the past Smile seem to remember a big one near Sunderland? Not entirely sure where that was! Us Washington lot thought we were top dogs having a Gateway foodmarket though... Wink

Gateway?
Its still Woolco man Wink

The Galleries had a Presto too (where the in-shops are). No idea of the Sunderland one.


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - gtom - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:42 pm)aureolin wrote Blast from the past Smile seem to remember a big one near Sunderland? Not entirely sure where that was! Us Washington lot thought we were top dogs having a Gateway foodmarket though... Wink

Funnily enough I drove past it yesterday and the old Safeway sign had been uncovered!


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Adrian - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 2:47 pm)andreos1 wrote Gateway?
Its still Woolco man Wink

The Galleries had a Presto too (where the in-shops are). No idea of the Sunderland one.

You're right - photo here. :p


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Andreos1 - 16 Feb 2014

(16 Feb 2014, 3:19 pm)aureolin wrote You're right - photo here. :p

Is that where Iceland is now?
Cant remember Presto being there - it obviously was like.
Cheap lager too!


RE: Nexus Cost Cutting on Bus Stop Timetables - Dan - 18 Feb 2014

The bus shelter opposite the cemetery on Hylton Road has gone! A little flag pole hooked onto a street light to act as the bus stop now.
Granted it was an old-style brick shelter before, but I am surprised a new one wasn't implemented.