(21 Jul 2022, 7:49 pm)Unber43 wrote Riverside I think so.

I think some Washington services might be switching Depots, cos I can't imagine there being enough room, Washington already uses most of the street. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the 4 got moved to Depford.

(21 Jul 2022, 7:59 pm)Storx wrote 26 (-5 PVR)
Washington Locals (-6 PVR)
4 (-2 PVR)

25/28/29 (7 PVR)
71 (2 PVR)
8 (6 PVR)

Just saying, numbers might be slightly off.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:02 pm)Unber43 wrote The 4 might have a -2 PVR, however those Citaros are staying.

I think they might lose about 8-9 from Washington however the 34 (PVR 3) and Mini Buses (PVR 3) are going in Sept aswell.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:07 pm)Storx wrote Doubt it, the two 08 plates will get withdrawn imo.

I have a feeling the 34 and the rest of the minibuses might go to Consett instead (not ideal operationally) but they haven't really got much choice.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:07 pm)Storx wrote Doubt it, the two 08 plates will get withdrawn imo.

I have a feeling the 34 and the rest of the minibuses might go to Consett instead (not ideal operationally) but they haven't really got much choice.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:07 pm)Storx wrote Doubt it, the two 08 plates will get withdrawn imo.

I have a feeling the 34 and the rest of the minibuses might go to Consett instead (not ideal operationally) but they haven't really got much choice.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:21 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Based on the math, Washington has a net gain of 2 (from the 24th). 

What is expected to be allocated to the 25, 28, 29 & 71 (I was thinking Streetlites, Little Pinks Solos and maybe a couple of Citaros.)

(21 Jul 2022, 8:10 pm)Unber43 wrote They might still need one, there are nearly always 2-3 out of service.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:21 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Based on the math, Washington has a net gain of 2 (from the 24th). 

What is expected to be allocated to the 25, 28, 29 & 71 (I was thinking Streetlites, Little Pinks Solos and maybe a couple of Citaros.)

(21 Jul 2022, 8:25 pm)Dan wrote 5284 and 5285 will be withdrawn from Sunday, yes.

(21 Jul 2022, 8:36 pm)Michael wrote What other buses are getting withdrawn from Sunday?

Are they sticking to Solo's on the 39/39A and 39B?

(21 Jul 2022, 8:36 pm)Michael wrote What other buses are getting withdrawn from Sunday?

Are they sticking to Solo's on the 39/39A and 39B?

(21 Jul 2022, 8:53 pm)citaro5284 wrote Quite a few haha

(21 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm)F114TML wrote Why are the 39s Solos now? I appreciate the StreetLites nicked off to become the Coasters but the 39s always seem quite busy whenever I see them.

(21 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm)Malarkey wrote Passenger numbers on the 39 hadn't recovered as expected post-covid and in turn the buses were required due to the impending Newcastle Emission Zone, from my own personal observations a Solo is more than justified probably with the exception of peak journey in/out of Doxford International. 

Hopefully with the changes on Sunday there will be some further growth with a journey each to Houghton-Le-Spring and Washington Galleries.

(21 Jul 2022, 9:17 pm)Unber43 wrote I don't think anyone has really realised this, but the Saturday service has been reduced to every 30 mins

(21 Jul 2022, 9:01 pm)Malarkey wrote Have you got first dibs on 5284 then?

(21 Jul 2022, 9:10 pm)Unber43 wrote https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20293002.go-north-east-chester-le-street-drivers-given-offer-avoid-strikes/?fbclid=IwAR2lALXHNns-0WlNCj4C-RHdLirvdS6BajllxikSskFUeFxIFnnizB-ge3I WOW

(21 Jul 2022, 10:05 pm)N1cholas wrote The company are basically saying take the relocation package and move quietly or you go on strike, loose all relocation packages and move anyway, one way or another chester will close no matter the speed someone at chester has the northern echo on speed dial, it really is a £2250 question

(22 Jul 2022, 12:19 am)streetdeckfan wrote Is it wrong to feel bad for GNE over this?

CLS is a dilapidated money pit so obviously has to go, GNE seem to have offered a very generous relocation package to staff for moving. The union is being their usual pain in the arse self and causing trouble. A 'whistle blower' *cough*the union*cough* keeps 'leaking' documents to the press to show how evil they are to try and get their way.

I genuinely can't even see why they're wasting energy on this matter. CLS is closing, there's nowt they can do to change that. Plus, if what Dan is saying is true, and GNE will be over-staffed, then what is the incentive for GNE to keep them happy?

This may be a bit controversial, but IMO if they do go on strike, I hope GNE keep to their word and scrap the relocation offer (at least only for those individuals who go on strike, if legal), then they've got nobody else to blame but themselves.

(22 Jul 2022, 5:28 am)Dan wrote Ironically the latest leak doesn’t seem to paint them as being the victims - the opposite in fact, when in receipt of such a re-location package.

Comments have been made elsewhere on the forum about it being unexpected that the 25 and 28 services would transfer to Washington. This is true as it requires remote reliefs whereas if they had operated from Riverside that wouldn’t be the case. Clearly this is the company moving the work (and incurring the cost of doing so) to the best place for the driving team, rather than what is most cost-effective and efficient - to keep its staff at Chester-le-Street happier by allowing them to run from their preferred depot of choice.


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(21 Jul 2022, 10:05 pm)N1cholas wrote The company are basically saying take the relocation package and move quietly or you go on strike, loose all relocation packages and move anyway, one way or another chester will close no matter the speed someone at chester has the northern echo on speed dial, it really is a £2250 question

(22 Jul 2022, 12:19 am)streetdeckfan wrote Is it wrong to feel bad for GNE over this?

CLS is a dilapidated money pit so obviously has to go, GNE seem to have offered a very generous relocation package to staff for moving. The union is being their usual pain in the arse self and causing trouble. A 'whistle blower' *cough*the union*cough* keeps 'leaking' documents to the press to show how evil they are to try and get their way.

I genuinely can't even see why they're wasting energy on this matter. CLS is closing, there's nowt they can do to change that. Plus, if what Dan is saying is true, and GNE will be over-staffed, then what is the incentive for GNE to keep them happy?

This may be a bit controversial, but IMO if they do go on strike, I hope GNE keep to their word and scrap the relocation offer (at least only for those individuals who go on strike, if legal), then they've got nobody else to blame but themselves.

(22 Jul 2022, 9:11 am)gc802002 wrote Where would be the most efficient place to do crew changes for the 25 and 28/29 given they are going to Washington?

So that’s 7 extra buses from September for Washington ,  Plus probably 3 for the 34 (can’t see Consett or Riverside doing that?)  Something will have to go surely?

(21 Jul 2022, 7:49 pm)Unber43 wrote Riverside I think so.

I think some Washington services might be switching Depots, cos I can't imagine there being enough room, Washington already uses most of the street. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the 4 got moved to Depford.

(22 Jul 2022, 9:27 am)Michael wrote The 26 is moving to Deptford... as its interworking with the 5, 9 and 26.

(22 Jul 2022, 9:50 am)Storx wrote There's a massive reduction of PVR on the Washington locals to add to this. It's down to 5 from what was 11 last year I believe before the cuts in September. There's also a PVR reduction of 2 on 4 aswell.

(22 Jul 2022, 9:50 am)Storx wrote There's a massive reduction of PVR on the Washington locals to add to this. It's down to 5 from what was 11 last year I believe before the cuts in September. There's also a PVR reduction of 2 on 4 aswell.