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RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Andreos1 - 30 Aug 2022 (30 Aug 2022, 5:33 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote As if. This is GNE. Will be the passengers fault for slowing the buses down. And the traffic. Don't forget the car drivers who either don't have their needs met (so are in the car) or the drivers who abandoned public transport. They're often to blame for slowing the buses down too. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Unber43 - 31 Aug 2022 X58/58 is moving to Washington most if not all journeys will be ran by them. And 57 Sundays & evenings presumably for the interworking pattern of 58/57. 6943 will also return temporarily until more buses come from London. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Retro Nero - 01 Sep 2022 5507 & 5508 transferring to Deptford on Sunday Apparently RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Michael - 01 Sep 2022 (01 Sep 2022, 6:37 am)Retro Nero wrote 5507 & 5508 transferring to Deptford on Sunday Apparently Wouldn't surprise me, as it looks like Deptford will have the most Versa's in the fleet, would make sense them being spares, as they're white - unless they'll get a small refurb (to have USBs) and a repaint? RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Retro Nero - 01 Sep 2022 (01 Sep 2022, 9:40 am)Michael wrote Wouldn't surprise me, as it looks like Deptford will have the most Versa's in the fleet, would make sense them being spares, as they're white - unless they'll get a small refurb (to have USBs) and a repaint?Not sure if there getting 8347 ,but they are getting the ex Lothian Volvo's for scholar's contract . There are quite a few citaros parked up at the back of Deptford ready for withdrawal at weekend. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - BFK - 01 Sep 2022 (01 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm)Retro Nero wrote Not sure if there getting 8347 ,but they are getting the ex Lothian Volvo's for scholar's contract . There are quite a few citaros parked up at the back of Deptford ready for withdrawal at weekend. All the Citaro's at Sunderland are withdrawn from tomorrow night bar 5327/5334-5336. 5328-5333 are to be mothballed as are Optare Solo SR's 673 - 679 which are also been mothballed. 665-666 & 672 are moving to Hexham. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - citaro5284 - 01 Sep 2022 (01 Sep 2022, 5:10 pm)BFK wrote All the Citaro's at Sunderland are withdrawn from tomorrow night bar 5327/5334-5336. 5328-5333 are to be mothballed as are Optare Solo SR's 673 - 679 which are also been mothballed. 665-666 & 672 are moving to Hexham. BFK must be helping oot with the vehicle movements.... RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Unber43 - 01 Sep 2022 Will the 65 be allocated deckers from Saturday? Also I wonder what will happen to the other 2 spares presumably they'll be put onto the 20/20A RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Jimmi - 01 Sep 2022 (01 Sep 2022, 9:47 pm)Unber43 wrote Will the 65 be allocated deckers from Saturday? I'm going to assume no, especially when there's journeys utilising an extra bus* in the peak rush in and out of Durham for school/college students when the service is at its busiest. (* additional bus doing journeys that exist in current timetable). No clue where they will utilise the 65 Lite's but why would it be the 20/20A when there's still excess Prince Bishops liveried examples from when they recently curtailed the route at Sunderland? RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Michael - 02 Sep 2022 Which double deckers are getting allocated to the 57 from tomorrow? RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Michael - 02 Sep 2022 Just seen this on the Go North East Buses by Duraid Foy. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Tiger5105 - 02 Sep 2022 Cathedral bus Solos, 709 and one of 6334/5 are now at Consett RE: September 2022 Service Changes - L469 YVK - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 7:23 pm)Tiger5105 wrote Cathedral bus Solos, 709 and one of 6334/5 are now at Consett6334/35 as in a B5TL (I know some do get confused between 6334/35 and Enviros 6336/37). Could this be a signal as to where the StreetDecks & B5TLs will end up longer term (B5TLs on 47 and StreetDecks on X21) or just a loan? Is the X21 definitely going to be Riverside operated? RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Tiger5105 - 02 Sep 2022 I passed the depot as I was walking g the dogs and 6335 passes. So both B5's generic x lines are at Consett now. The red kite streetdecks are mostly lined up on the overflow nit at the front so looks like departure is imminent RE: September 2022 Service Changes - citaro5284 - 02 Sep 2022 21 and X21 defo running from Riverside RE: September 2022 Service Changes - L469 YVK - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 7:31 pm)Tiger5105 wrote I passed the depot as I was walking g the dogs and 6335 passes. So both B5's generic x lines are at Consett now. The red kite streetdecks are mostly lined up on the overflow nit at the front so looks like departure is imminentUnless plan is to standardise 21/X21 both with StreetDecks and the B5TLs allow the older and well worn B9TLs (ex TTX and TVT) to take a more back seat role? Working it out actually..... - 14x 'new' E400MMC (2019/2020) - 2x E400MMC (2014) - 7x B5TL (2017) - 2x B5TL (2014) Total PVR of all Consett 'XLines' routes and RKR 47 is 23. So in theory...... X30/X31/X45 (PVR 8) - 6344-51 X71/X72 (PVR 5) - 6339-43 47 (PVR 6) - 6308-13 X5/X15 (PVR 4) - 6314, 6334, 6335, 6336 Spares - 6337, 6338 - **Surplus B5LHs (Hybrids) substitute on X5/X15 if any Euro 6 vehicles on Newcastle routes are VOR** RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Tiger5105 - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 7:37 pm)L469 YVK wrote Unless plan is to standardise 21/X21 both with StreetDecks and the B5TLs allow the older and well worn B9TLs (ex TTX and TVT) to take a more back seat role?Don't forget Consett gained another bus as 6064 shows as entering service on 16s today. At the moment they seem to have quite a few spares. The deckers being 6334-38, 6064, 6069-70. That's 8 spares for a PVR of 31 ? Double deck routes. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Jack Gill - 02 Sep 2022 I thought these changes were meant to "remove the need for daily cancellations".. I don't know whether it's because they will be moving stuff around or what I'm not sure but there are still a lot of cancellations tomorrow. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Tiger5105 - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 7:37 pm)L469 YVK wrote Unless plan is to standardise 21/X21 both with StreetDecks and the B5TLs allow the older and well worn B9TLs (ex TTX and TVT) to take a more back seat role?If the rumour is true and Consett are swapping the streetdecks with 5453-59 and inherit the 6 then that's more single deck spares for the 78 and the 6 could see deckers in use substituting RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Michael - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 6:52 pm)Michael wrote Just seen this on the Go North East Buses by Duraid Foy. Just seen this comment on the post by Callum Bowes: 5463-69 supposedly off to Washington, as is 8307-09, the east Gateshead rider B9s and I assume a corporate which 6049 fits that RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Malarkey - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 8:07 pm)Michael wrote Just seen this comment on the post by Callum Bowes: Would hazard a guess that 5463-69 will be allocated to the 25/28/29 with 8307-09 on the 71 potentially. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Storx - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 8:42 pm)Malarkey wrote Would hazard a guess that 5463-69 will be allocated to the 25/28/29 with 8307-09 on the 71 potentially. 34 surely? RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Adrian - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 8:07 pm)Michael wrote Just seen this comment on the post by Callum Bowes: More Versas for Washington to not use where intended?! RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Unber43 - 02 Sep 2022 Lets just face it this changes are not to improve reliability in anything the July changes just made everything worse, Delayed X21's, 65, X45/30/31. X45/30/31 need another PVR in the loop. 65 needs another branded bus for changeovers as the delays are beyond a joke, I saw on Twitter earlier that the MP for Easington complained to GNE about the delays. I think there were 5 if not more delayed operations for the X45/30/31 and 4-6 for the 65. X21 I think was delayed causing a part of the journey missed a few times. These changes weren't to improve reliability, or driver cancellations list to go it was for the 60+ contracts they got which they are taking staff off normal routes. I mean I've been over the network today and the 97, 53/54, 65, X20, 60, 20 were all really busy so god knows how they're going to cope. Same with the 21 they were all rammed leaving and going to Newcastle. But remember BetterThanEver (02 Sep 2022, 7:37 pm)L469 YVK wrote Unless plan is to standardise 21/X21 both with StreetDecks and the B5TLs allow the older and well worn B9TLs (ex TTX and TVT) to take a more back seat role?So more unneeded repaints really? When GNE says Future Planning for their services it might aswell just say we will change them in a few weeks. 12 4ph > 2ph, 65 2ph > 1ph, 97 4ph>3ph 57 4ph>2ph. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - L469 YVK - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 9:18 pm)Unber43 wrote Lets just face it this changes are not to improve reliability in anything the July changes just made everything worse, Delayed X21's, 65, X45/30/31.Not particularly other than 6308-13 (full) and 6314 (partial). (02 Sep 2022, 9:18 pm)Unber43 wrote Lets just face it this changes are not to improve reliability in anything the July changes just made everything worse, Delayed X21's, 65, X45/30/31.I don't know much about the 65. Effectively minus the Durham-Tyne Diamonds (43/44 and whatever variations), the X30/X31, X71/X72 and X45 have effectively returned to pre October 2015 capacity levels taking into account that the 45/46 ran every 15 mins using single decks. With the X71/X72 now 'final', I'm sure GNE will change the X30/X31 to interwork with these whilst adding more recovery time and improving headway between Sunniside and Newcastle. There'd be no overall PVR increase. Likewise, the X45 could just remain standalone and would still comply with 5hr30m rule given the relief is practically Hownsgill Depot. X21 I do agree with you on that one especially with the unpredictable A1/A1M! RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Jimmi - 02 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 8:47 pm)Adrian wrote More Versas for Washington to not use where intended?! Washington's allocations are made to look worse by the fact there's currently excess 'Connections 4' liveried Citaro's available to use, whole batch were out yesterday (Friday) with 5361 on the 8 and 5367/68 on the 28/29 (68 stayed out till late on the 28B) (02 Sep 2022, 8:42 pm)Malarkey wrote Would hazard a guess that 5463-69 will be allocated to the 25/28/29 with 8307-09 on the 71 potentially. Doubt that would go down too well with drivers attempting to get those round bits of the route in Seaham. (02 Sep 2022, 9:18 pm)Unber43 wrote X21 I think was delayed causing a part of the journey missed a few times. X21 has a few problem areas for traffic particularly at peak times, Low Fell, the A1(M) which is worse still now with the roadworks, Picktree Lane heading past CLS depot and Nevilles Cross in Durham (Tindle Crescent can be a pain to navigate at times too). RE: September 2022 Service Changes - streetdeckfan - 03 Sep 2022 (02 Sep 2022, 11:49 pm)Jimmi wrote Washington's allocations are made to look worse by the fact there's currently excess 'Connections 4' liveried Citaro's available to use, whole batch were out yesterday (Friday) with 5361 on the 8 and 5367/68 on the 28/29 (68 stayed out till late on the 28B) Tindale is an absolute nightmare at rush hour! It's not uncommon for it to take a good 5-10 mins to get from Tesco to the traffic lights. Getting out from Woodhouse onto Watling Road can be just as bad, especially if the traffic is backed up past Homebase as nobody ever let's the bus out! Sent from my AC2003 using Tapatalk RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Jack Gill - 03 Sep 2022 By the looks of things the 12 interworks with the 10/A/B RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Thomas12 - 03 Sep 2022 I see reliability on the Q3 has gone to pot yet again after moving to Riverside (late buses, cancellations). Was pretty much perfect when Percy Main were running it. All well and good having new electric buses but pointless if they don't show up. On another note the Quaycity Versas seem to have been allocated to the 41/41A. RE: September 2022 Service Changes - Michael - 03 Sep 2022 Looks like 3 of the Quaycity Versa's is on the 41/41A. |