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RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Storx - 11 Jul 2026

(11 Jul 2026, 6:20 pm)Nerd4321 wrote The old ones were at least reliable. We have been sent broken promises by nexus for these new metros saying there offer the best & future yet cant seem to get the one thing they actually boasted about. The pathetic excuse for air conditioning. Its broke it leaks it never bloody works. These metros have been nothing short of a sh!tshow since they entered service. Constant problems here there & everywhere 


Butttttt dont worry. Cause some suck up is gonna say "but its teething issues"

No it aint. They are built horrible and ran by the worst company known to man

Not going to comment on the new ones as it's too early to tell but the old trains were knackered. They were just posh trams and ran well beyond their design life. I'd take broken aircon over the heating on full blast which was common.

Stadler trains are generally alright though, unlike cheap as ***** (CAF) trains. The new CAF trains for the DLR are a genuine shambles.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - RMF1254 - 12 Jul 2026

(11 Jul 2026, 10:32 pm)Storx wrote Not going to comment on the new ones as it's too early to tell but the old trains were knackered. They were just posh trams and ran well beyond their design life. I'd take broken aircon over the heating on full blast which was common.

Stadler trains are generally alright though, unlike cheap as ***** (CAF) trains. The new CAF trains for the DLR are a genuine shambles.

I have to agree, the old Metrocars were state of the art when they were new, a revelation after the old dmus on the N Tyne loop and South Shields lines. They served these routes and extensions well but as they aged they were not as reliable and were ready for withdrawal.
The new Metrocars are lovely to ride on and I haven’t had a bad run yet. The only gripe I have is the narrow seats and that they are all facing inwards, but it is a small gripe. 
As for the builder, I was delighted when Stadler were announced as the winners. I have travelled over the years in Switzerland and presently a lot of the trains there are built by Stadler and they are superb - double deckers, single deckers, Inter City, high speed and local trains plus trams, narrow gauge and normal gauge. Any teething problems here I would presume would be the extra design features by Nexus.
(04 Jul 2026, 9:24 pm)Nerd4321 wrote So gne attempts today were somewhat how shall I put this lightly without annoying someone

Ah yes

Absolutely dreadful

The first attempt to run both Toontours went horrible

6995 manged ONE trip. Well replace it with 6993. NOOOOO cant so that. 6101 is good enough. And then 6993 was put on

3 buses did 1 running board today.


How terrible do you have to be at running a bus company it takes 3 buses to run an open topper service

While on the topic. Is Kimmy having words with GNE the fact they are getting "funding of the government" for new state of the sh!t buses that they cant even allocate them anymore. Pathetic



RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Adrian - 12 Jul 2026

(11 Jul 2026, 6:20 pm)Nerd4321 wrote The old ones were at least reliable. We have been sent broken promises by nexus for these new metros saying there offer the best & future yet cant seem to get the one thing they actually boasted about. The pathetic excuse for air conditioning. Its broke it leaks it never bloody works. These metros have been nothing short of a sh!tshow since they entered service. Constant problems here there & everywhere 

Butttttt dont worry. Cause some suck up is gonna say "but its teething issues"

No it aint. They are built horrible and ran by the worst company known to man

Errr... no they weren't! 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66210398
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl6pp8gg85o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-64962083
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-problems-laid-bare-stark-27324521

No one can doubt that they've been a workhorse for the region for decades, but people will only judge them by their last experiences in them. For the best part of the last 10 years, they've been problematic and super unreliable, with Metro themselves admitting it's a battle to keep them on the rails. We even lost the peak extras due to Metro not being able to supply enough stock.

On the modern units, my only real issue with them is the lack of overhead grab rails. That's a real design flaw when the units are crowded. Everything else about them is a notable improvement on what we had, including the air conditioning, which I found really effective even during a heatwave. It actually works better than I thought it would do, because unlike say a car on an Azuma, the air conditioning in the 555 cars isn't operating in a sealed environment. Every time those doors open at a station, warm air is coming back in.

You may think 'teething issues' is people sucking up to Metro, but anyone who has worked within any kind of systems, development or infrastructure role knows that it's often part and parcel to getting the service right.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Arlo400H - 12 Jul 2026

(12 Jul 2026, 3:19 pm)Adrian wrote Errr... no they weren't! 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66210398
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl6pp8gg85o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-64962083
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-problems-laid-bare-stark-27324521

No one can doubt that they've been a workhorse for the region for decades, but people will only judge them by their last experiences in them. For the best part of the last 10 years, they've been problematic and super unreliable, with Metro themselves admitting it's a battle to keep them on the rails. We even lost the peak extras due to Metro not being able to supply enough stock.

On the modern units, my only real issue with them is the lack of overhead grab rails. That's a real design flaw when the units are crowded. Everything else about them is a notable improvement on what we had, including the air conditioning, which I found really effective even during a heatwave. It actually works better than I thought it would do, because unlike say a car on an Azuma, the air conditioning in the 555 cars isn't operating in a sealed environment. Every time those doors open at a station, warm air is coming back in.

You may think 'teething issues' is people sucking up to Metro, but anyone who has worked within any kind of systems, development or infrastructure role knows that it's often part and parcel to getting the service right.

people are comparing a train made in the 1970s to a train made in the 2020s... back then much more money was put into things like this and it was treated millions of times more important. the quality of our new metros are great when compared to other recent trains. its a very different time now politically, honestly were lucky with what we got because metros certainly aren't putting money in the pockets of oil companies.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - V514DFT - 16 Jul 2026

(12 Jul 2026, 11:11 am)RMF1254 wrote I have to agree, the old Metrocars were state of the art when they were new, a revelation after the old dmus on the N Tyne loop and South Shields lines. They served these routes and extensions well but as they aged they were not as reliable and were ready for withdrawal.
The new Metrocars are lovely to ride on and I haven’t had a bad run yet. The only gripe I have is the narrow seats and that they are all facing inwards, but it is a small gripe. 
As for the builder, I was delighted when Stadler were announced as the winners. I have travelled over the years in Switzerland and presently a lot of the trains there are built by Stadler and they are superb - double deckers, single deckers, Inter City, high speed and local trains plus trams, narrow gauge and normal gauge. Any teething problems here I would presume would be the extra design features by Nexus.

Politely saying this, they're Class 555's, not Metrocars, but yes, as much as i loved the old girls, they were knackered and literally falling apart, and that cab, im sure it likely went against present legislation, really, instead of another refurbishment from 2010-2015, that should of been it for the old stock then instead of limping on for another 10-15 years


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - idiot - 25 Jul 2026

Using the Metro due to working in Newcastle centre. Would normally drive but with the road closures I decided to drive down to East Boldon to cut out a 25 min walk.

The drive was the best part of the journey. Luckily the train is quiet as it would be even worse.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - GreenKai - 10 Aug 2026

Does anyone know if Nexus still has the capacity for peak services?

With HMRC opening next year I would assume they would try to get them back up and running by then.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - NEbushopper - 10 Aug 2026

There were a couple of peak time services being ran a couple of weeks ago and there will be a frequency increase to every 10 minutes (5 through the core) from December


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - V514DFT - 24 Aug 2026

(12 Dec 2025, 12:09 am)V514DFT wrote Correct as of:  24th August 2026

Thought i'd provide a list of old units and a list of new units

CLASS 599/994

4001- Saved (left for preservation at Stephenson Railway Museum 10/09/2025)
4002- Scrapped
4003- Scrapped 
4004- Scrapped
4005- Scrapped
4006- Scrapped
4007- Scrapped 
4008- Scrapped
4009- Scrapped
4010- Scrapped 
4011- Scrapped
4012- Scrapped
4013- Scrapped 
4014- Scrapped
4015- Scrapped
4016- Scrapped 
4017- Scrapped
4018- Scrapped 
4019- Saved (moved to the Fire and Rescue training facility 15/09/2025)
4020- Saved (left for preservation at NELSAM 30/06/26)
4021- Scrapped 
4022- Scrapped
4023- Scrapped
4024- Stored
4025- Scrapped 
4026- Scrapped
4027- Scrapped
4028- Scrapped
4029- Stored 
4030- Scrapped
4031- Scrapped 
4032- Scrapped
4033- Scrapped 
4034- Scrapped
4035- Scrapped
4036- Scrapped 
4037- Scrapped
4038- Scrapped
4039- Scrapped
4040- Scrapped 
4041- Stored
4042- Scrapped
4043- Scrapped
4044- Scrapped 
4045- Scrapped
4046- Scrapped
4047- Scrapped
4048- Scrapped 
4049- Scrapped
4050- Stored
4051- Scrapped
4052- Scrapped
4053- Scrapped
4054- Scrapped 
4055- Scrapped
4056- Scrapped
4057- Scrapped 
4058- Scrapped
4059- Scrapped
4060- Scrapped
4061- Scrapped
4062- Scrapped
4063- Scrapped
4064- Scrapped
4065- Scrapped
4066- Scrapped
4067- Scrapped
4068- Scrapped
4069- Scrapped
4070- Scrapped
4071- Scapped
4072- Scrapped 
4073- Scrapped
4074- Scrapped
4075- Scrapped
4076- Scrapped
4077- Scrapped
4078- Stored
4079- Withdrawn
4080- Scrapped
4081- Stored
4082- Scrapped 
4083- Scrapped
4084- Scrapped 
4085- Scrapped
4086- Scrapped
4087- Scrapped 
4088- Scrapped
4089- Scrapped
4090- Scrapped

Key
Green= Active
Blue= Stored
Red= Scrapped
Light Blue= Preserved
Black= Withdrawn
Misc= Magenta
Burgundy= Non passenger use

Number Active= 0
Number Scrapped= 80
Number Stored= 6
Number Withdrawn= 1
Number Saved= 2 
Non passenger use= 0

CLASS 555's

555001- In Service
555002- In Service 
555003- In Service 
555004- In Service 
555005- In Service 
555006- In Service 
555007- In Service 
555008- In Service 
555009- In Service 
555010- In Service
555011- In Service 
555012- In Service
555013- In Service
555014- In Service
555015- In Service 
555016- In Service
555017- In Service
555018- In Service
555019- In Service
555020- In Service 
555021- In Service 
555022- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555023- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555024- In Service
555025- In Service
555026- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555027- In Service 
555028- In Service 
555029- In Service 
555030- In Service
555031- In Service
555032- In Service
555033- In Service
555034- In Service
555035- In Service
555036- In Service
555037- In Service
555038- In Service 
555039- In Service
555040- In Service
555041- In Service
555042- In Service 
555043- In Service
555044- In Service
555045- In Service
555046- Delivered (undergoing testing)

Key

Purple= In service
Yellow= Delivered (undergoing testing)



Number In Service= 42
Number Delivered (undergoing testing)= 4



Updated: 24/08/2026

If you see any mistakes or have any updates, contact me and I will amend accordingly

List Update as of August 2026
4068 has also now gone for scrap