(03 Aug 2023, 2:09 pm)Michael wrote 3rd September:

PB0003954/1208
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 38 (38) Sunderland Sunderland

PB0003954/1162
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 33 (33) Silksworth Docks

PB0003954/805
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 39 (39, 39A, 39B) Pennywell Doxford International


11th September:

PB0003954/789
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 700 (700, 701, 702) Sunderland Interchange Sunderland Interchange


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Looks like the 33 and 38 are merging together, which makes sense.


700/701/702 - contract change or Uni term timetable coming in to force.

(03 Aug 2023, 2:49 pm)Busu284 wrote Already they just had a timetable change

(03 Aug 2023, 2:09 pm)Michael wrote 3rd September:

PB0003954/1208
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 38 (38) Sunderland Sunderland

PB0003954/1162
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 33 (33) Silksworth Docks

PB0003954/805
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 39 (39, 39A, 39B) Pennywell Doxford International


11th September:

PB0003954/789
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 700 (700, 701, 702) Sunderland Interchange Sunderland Interchange


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Looks like the 33 and 38 are merging together, which makes sense.


700/701/702 - contract change or Uni term timetable coming in to force.

(03 Aug 2023, 2:09 pm)Michael wrote 3rd September:

PB0003954/1208
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 38 (38) Sunderland Sunderland

PB0003954/1162
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 33 (33) Silksworth Docks

PB0003954/805
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 39 (39, 39A, 39B) Pennywell Doxford International


11th September:

PB0003954/789
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 700 (700, 701, 702) Sunderland Interchange Sunderland Interchange


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Looks like the 33 and 38 are merging together, which makes sense.


700/701/702 - contract change or Uni term timetable coming in to force.

(03 Aug 2023, 3:02 pm)purplesolo wrote 702 withdrawn. 700 every half an hour via glass centre and not going to serve the city campus and royal hospital, just a loop from park lane to st peters from what i can gather. 701 every 15 minutes- all routes operated by GNE.

33/38 merging. Every 15 minutes with two per hour down to the docks.

(02 Aug 2023, 11:07 pm)Drifter60 wrote There’s 9 Peterlee Purples but I think the network PVR is 6? So I’m guessing 3 going to North Tyne Rocket then. 
But I’m previously mentioned that isn’t much solo cover at Deptford, the 33 appears to have used a Versa and a B9 today.

(03 Aug 2023, 3:28 pm)Unber43 wrote theyve got 672 back as the spare for the graphite and the purples if they lose the other 3

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Seems Deptford cannot afford to loose the 3 solos now, with the 33 needing atleast an extra 2

(03 Aug 2023, 3:34 pm)Michael wrote Unless the 33 is getting bigger buses, as its increasing to every 15 mins between Sunderland and Silksworth....Versa?


Wonder if the increase is something to with the Stagecoach cuts.

(03 Aug 2023, 2:09 pm)Michael wrote 3rd September:

PB0003954/1208
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 38 (38) Sunderland Sunderland

PB0003954/1162
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 33 (33) Silksworth Docks

PB0003954/805
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 39 (39, 39A, 39B) Pennywell Doxford International


11th September:

PB0003954/789
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 700 (700, 701, 702) Sunderland Interchange Sunderland Interchange


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Looks like the 33 and 38 are merging together, which makes sense.


700/701/702 - contract change or Uni term timetable coming in to force.

(03 Aug 2023, 8:23 pm)Drifter60 wrote The 39 changing the same date as the 33/38 changes, could that suggest they’re interworking? Short 39s and Short 33s. 

One thing I will praise GNE for, is that are trying to work smarter - the X6 increase and the rumoured 33 increase, seems to be prompted by the fact they already have resources that aren't fully utilised (remote changeovers for 206/208 and the bus on the 33 sitting empty for three quarters of an hour at Park Lane)

(03 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm)Michael wrote Could be, never thought of that, could make sense, but that could mean more solo's would need to be repainted.... and we wouldn't want them to waste more money on pointless repaints.

(03 Aug 2023, 10:35 pm)peter wrote Or they just won't repaint them...the X-Lines X45/46 Streetdecks have been at Riverside and Washington for how long now?

These changes do through up an interesting one now tho where they've withdrawn quite a few Solo's over the past few months due to contract losses, only to now seemingly be following a model of going in cheaper and have won the 82, R2, and now the 335/351/359 circuit, not to mention the re-increase on the 39/39A/39B and the X6, leaving them short of Solo's. 

The 335/351/359 will need 5 Solo's plus 3 for the 41/41A would tally up with the Peterlee Purples. But then what would be used on the Peterlee network. 

There are technically 2 Little Pinks to spare, if Versa's can be used on the AD122, then the AD122/684/687 circuit could be converted to Versa's releasing 664-666. Not sure where you'd get anymore from tho!

(08 Jun 2023, 8:59 pm)Adrian wrote I tend to agree. Perhaps in a time when there were no real alternatives available to you, it was far easier for transport operators to expect you to work around their scheduling, rather than providing a schedule that was customer-centric. Nowadays, not only do you have cars so easily available to people, but most office-based employers will accept an application for homeworking if you can explain that your daily commute is awful. 

It's nearly 9 month since Go North East 'temporarily' suspended the X20. Using that provided a perfect route for me to get from Washington to Durham, using that and the 4. Not only did they suspend that, they made the 50 a game of snakes and ladders to get out of Washington. I ended up reverting to working from home permanently as a result of that, and it's single figures that I've been into an office since then. Saves me £100+ a month and loses an operator a customer.

(04 Aug 2023, 4:48 am)Dan wrote Don’t forget, the PVR increases on the 39 and X6 were PVR neutral (existing resource was just used more effectively to double the frequency of these routes).

Go North East had - and to an extent still does have - a surplus of Solos.

The Little Pinks were intended to replace Venture branded Solos following loss of the contract for the 19, but those Venture branded Solos were reinstated at Consett and Little Pinks displaced back to Washington for the 82.

The R2 was mobilised with Tynedale Links Solo 721, which was never actually withdrawn at Hexham and was just held as an additional spare bus.

An additional spare Solo was allocated to Deptford (increase from 2 to 3) when the changes to the 39 were made last month - Voyager branded 723 was reinstated at Hexham for the 689/785, displacing 672 to Deptford, in turn replacing a spare single-deck (fewer single-deck spares needed and greater minibus spares needed with the change to vehicle allocation on the 39).

643, 684 and 709 are all available to be reinstated if required. Following engine repairs and MOT, 684 will be returning to service at Washington this week in order to displace 680 to Deptford for the 38.

I wonder if there is a way of boosting the frequency of the 33 to every 15 minutes, but remaining PVR neutral?


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(04 Aug 2023, 10:08 am)nova347 wrote Wait so has 684 been off all this time since October just because it wasn't needed?

(03 Aug 2023, 3:02 pm)purplesolo wrote 702 withdrawn. 700 every half an hour via glass centre and not going to serve the city campus and royal hospital, just a loop from park lane to st peters from what i can gather. 701 every 15 minutes- all routes operated by GNE.

33/38 merging. Every 15 minutes with two per hour down to the docks.

(04 Aug 2023, 4:48 am)Dan wrote Don’t forget, the PVR increases on the 39 and X6 were PVR neutral (existing resource was just used more effectively to double the frequency of these routes).

Go North East had - and to an extent still does have - a surplus of Solos.

The Little Pinks were intended to replace Venture branded Solos following loss of the contract for the 19, but those Venture branded Solos were reinstated at Consett and Little Pinks displaced back to Washington for the 82.

The R2 was mobilised with Tynedale Links Solo 721, which was never actually withdrawn at Hexham and was just held as an additional spare bus.

An additional spare Solo was allocated to Deptford (increase from 2 to 3) when the changes to the 39 were made last month - Voyager branded 723 was reinstated at Hexham for the 689/785, displacing 672 to Deptford, in turn replacing a spare single-deck (fewer single-deck spares needed and greater minibus spares needed with the change to vehicle allocation on the 39).

643, 684 and 709 are all available to be reinstated if required. Following engine repairs and MOT, 684 will be returning to service at Washington this week in order to displace 680 to Deptford for the 38.

I wonder if there is a way of boosting the frequency of the 33 to every 15 minutes, but remaining PVR neutral?


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(03 Aug 2023, 3:03 pm)Michael wrote 11th September:

PB0003954/1402
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 701 (701) St Peter's Campus St Peter's Campus

PB0003954/1401
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 700 (700) St Peter's Campus St Peter's Campus


Looks like the 702 is being withdrawn.


4th Sept:

PB0002381/76
New DAVID CHARLES ANNIS & LESLIE BRIAN ANNIS 442 St Thomas More, North Sheilds Culdwell Lane, West Monkseaton

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Looks like:

700:

Start point: St Peter's Campus

Finish point: St Peter's Campus
Via: Sunderland City Centre, St Peter's Metro, Stadium of Light, National Glass Centre


701:

Start point: St Peter's Campus
Finish point: St Peter's Campus
Via: City Campus, Clanny House



Every 15 mins between St Peters and City Centre, then half hourly for the other section?

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Surprised the 33 is every 30 mins down to the docks.

(04 Aug 2023, 5:38 pm)missedbus wrote Based on every 15 minutes Silksworth to Sunderland, extending every 30 minutes round the Docks, it's achievable.
Sunderland to Silksworth is timed for 16 minutes, meaning a round trip on that can be done in 32-35 minutes, depending on how generous stand time at Silksworth is. These shorts can interwork with the Sunderland terminating 39s, and it's tight but doable with one bus. The full length 33s will have a 50+ minute round trip time, possibly with a wait in the city centre, and need 2 buses.
That would be PVR neutral, which will keep the bean counters happy.
Current: 33 - 2 buses, 38 - 1 bus, 39/A/B - 7 buses
New: 33 short/39/A/B - 8 buses, 33 long - 2 buses

(04 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm)V514DFT wrote Have GNE won the 335/351/359 like?

(04 Aug 2023, 4:48 am)Dan wrote Don’t forget, the PVR increases on the 39 and X6 were PVR neutral (existing resource was just used more effectively to double the frequency of these routes).

Go North East had - and to an extent still does have - a surplus of Solos.

The Little Pinks were intended to replace Venture branded Solos following loss of the contract for the 19, but those Venture branded Solos were reinstated at Consett and Little Pinks displaced back to Washington for the 82.

The R2 was mobilised with Tynedale Links Solo 721, which was never actually withdrawn at Hexham and was just held as an additional spare bus.

An additional spare Solo was allocated to Deptford (increase from 2 to 3) when the changes to the 39 were made last month - Voyager branded 723 was reinstated at Hexham for the 689/785, displacing 672 to Deptford, in turn replacing a spare single-deck (fewer single-deck spares needed and greater minibus spares needed with the change to vehicle allocation on the 39).

643, 684 and 709 are all available to be reinstated if required. Following engine repairs and MOT, 684 will be returning to service at Washington this week in order to displace 680 to Deptford for the 38.

I wonder if there is a way of boosting the frequency of the 33 to every 15 minutes, but remaining PVR neutral?


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(04 Aug 2023, 9:19 pm)Ambassador wrote It would be nice if they could restore the missing PM X39 out of Cobalt since the pm x39 was dropped to 1 bus.

X39 loads seem incredibly healthy versus the 22X (aside the 4.45 22X which no longer has the 16.40 x39 to compete) Surprises me how well used it is, generally a full seated decker

(05 Aug 2023, 4:42 am)DeltaMan wrote Given the propensity of the current 335 to go missing. I think Coastbusters would have been a better brand name personally....

(05 Aug 2023, 3:29 pm)V514DFT wrote Glad theyre keeping The Rockets Purple, imagine if they had of decided to paint them the same shade of Yellow as the actual Rocket