(24 Sep 2023, 6:17 pm)Storx wrote Bad utilisation of resources that imo.

It would be much better to have it as (all hourly)

19: Ashington to North Shields via Bedlington Station
57: Ashington to Whitley Bay via Choppington
57A: Cramlington to Whitley Bay via Seghill omitting High Pit (run direct from Annitsford).

Means you would have a 30 minutes service from Avenue Head to Cramlington towards Ashington and vice versa since the 19 is already there anyway. Not to mention you'd reopen the Cobalt and North Shields from Bedlington and beyond links. I assume it's now 20/40 towards Ashington under this timetable and give some much needed layover on the 57A with a faster route into Cramlington rather than the 57A and 19 following each other through High Pit like they do currently. Could also potentially renumber one of them so all the numbers are together aswell.

(24 Sep 2023, 6:35 pm)mb134 wrote I'm not sure on the timing pattern/layover of the 19 on the southern end, but it seems to be timed as 34 minutes between Cramlington and Ashington so you couldn't do there and back in an hour. The 57A is timed as 26 minutes so is easily achievable within 1 hour, with only 1 extra bus, and with a decent chunk of layover.

(24 Sep 2023, 6:54 pm)Storx wrote Was thinking how the heck is that is doing that in 26 minutes and it seems the 57A is skipping Bedlington completely which seems a bit of a bizarre route..

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.1841189,-1.5699123/55.0855288,-1.5860393/@55.1717633,-1.563876,15.46z/data=!4m24!4m23!1m20!3m4!1m2!1d-1.5610669!2d55.1732773!3s0x487e0da796524841:0xe9a33ca7317ae24!3m4!1m2!1d-1.5761318!2d55.1613396!3s0x487e0d02a6cc8d5b:0x31243a4cbaf86228!3m4!1m2!1d-1.5686841!2d55.1409821!3s0x487e0d267de9f10f:0x3c678b502b1807fb!3m4!1m2!1d-1.561309!2d55.0999458!3s0x487e72e5d8289fb5:0xfa9d4098a9b10c1f!1m0!3e0?entry=ttu - Seems to be doing that route.

If they done that route, then it should be easily doable though with the 19. It's 61 / 50 minutes the timing on the 19. 

I'm sure the Solo's will enjoy blasting along the Spine Road, give it a few weeks before one goes bang.

(24 Sep 2023, 7:02 pm)mb134 wrote I imagine that's the chosen route so that it restores the Cramlington link to Bedlington Station and Stakeford in as quick a journey time as possible, and it doesn't need to serve Bedlington since that's now served by an enhanced 43. 

Ticketing wise, it probably makes more sense to give the 57A extension to Arriva given you can time it nicely into the current pattern and customers can use the same weekly/monthly passes they'd use on the rest of the services in the area?

(25 Sep 2023, 9:50 am)Kuyoyo wrote PB0002717/389 Registered
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(11 Oct 2023, 12:37 pm)Aaron21 wrote X16 route map & 57A route map now available on bustimes.org

57A map is something wow and the X16 is taking a different way to the X14/5/8

(11 Oct 2023, 12:43 pm)Jimmi wrote X16 is taking the same route as X14/X15/X18 between Newcastle & Morpeth as before.

(11 Oct 2023, 12:45 pm)Aaron21 wrote Do the X14/15/18 go via Morpeth rail station

(14 Oct 2023, 11:05 am)Thomas12 wrote Confirmation of changes in Tyne and Wear/Northumberland - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/service-update%E2%80%93northumberland-and-tyne-&-wear

(14 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm)Storx wrote Does anyone know who and what are running these? Blyth doesn't have any driver's as it is to be running more buses and Ashington is extremely sparse on buses to be running more work. There's not enough minibuses as it is to be running an extra board for example.

(14 Oct 2023, 9:16 pm)Storx wrote Does anyone know who and what are running these? Blyth doesn't have any driver's as it is to be running more buses and Ashington is extremely sparse on buses to be running more work. There's not enough minibuses as it is to be running an extra board for example.

(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood wrote The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).

As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.

(14 Oct 2023, 11:05 am)Thomas12 wrote Confirmation of changes in Tyne and Wear/Northumberland - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/service-update%E2%80%93northumberland-and-tyne-&-wear

(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood wrote The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).

As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.

(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood wrote The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).

As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.

(14 Oct 2023, 9:23 pm)mb134 wrote Ashington will be running the X16, extra X14s, 57A, and some of the new evening/weekend 43s I believe.

(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood wrote The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).

As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.

(14 Oct 2023, 10:35 pm)peter wrote What's the 29th October PVR decrease at Redcar related to? And is the November one not 5 - 3 on the X93 and 2 on the P1/P2?

(15 Oct 2023, 6:10 am)RobinHood wrote The 29th decrease is related to some peak time only work that is currently being operated for Mbro College. That will be merged into the normal boards and releases two vehicles.

November is actually 6, yes. It's 2 from P&R and 4 from X93/94 (as Whitby also have an extra board that only does a morning round trip between Whitby and Scarborough, often this one is overlooked).

(14 Oct 2023, 9:24 pm)RobinHood wrote The X16 is two additional vehicles and will operate from Ashington. I understand there will be a fleet movement of two Pulsars from Redcar to Durham, which in turn will allow 1512 and 1513 I believe to transfer back north. Redcar have a PVR decrease from 29th October (minus 2) and then again on the 6th November (minus 6).

As for the 57/57A, 2852 has been officially in reserve waiting for this PVR increase already. It will simply slot into their allocation (even though they have been using it, it hasn't officially been on their allocation). Its an intentional position to only give Ashington the exact number of Midibuses for the required allocation. I believe plans already underway to convert the 57/57A to conventional operation in the new year.

(15 Oct 2023, 9:49 pm)megansmith wrote should leave Redcar pulsars alone it should be the streetlites  or the two resver pulsars at Stockton could easily go to Durham

(18 Oct 2023, 4:28 am)Spottybus wrote I’m not saying it’s going to happen but wouldn’t it be better if 1408/1411 transfers up to Newcastle for the X16 with Darlingtons loan 1538/9 then that could add up to 4 vehicles for the X16 then 1512/3 could transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 while 2 pulsars transfers or goes on loan to Durham to replace 1512/3, 1408/11 used to be X16 branded so wouldn’t it be better to send them up to Newcastle to allow 1512/3 to transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 then 2 pulsars from Redcar can move to Durham to replace 1512/3 if Redcars PVR is decreasing but like I said above I know it probably won’t happen but it’s just a random guess that’s all

(18 Oct 2023, 4:28 am)Spottybus wrote I’m not saying it’s going to happen but wouldn’t it be better if 1408/1411 transfers up to Newcastle for the X16 with Darlingtons loan 1538/9 then that could add up to 4 vehicles for the X16 then 1512/3 could transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 while 2 pulsars transfers or goes on loan to Durham to replace 1512/3, 1408/11 used to be X16 branded so wouldn’t it be better to send them up to Newcastle to allow 1512/3 to transfer to Darlington to replace 1408/11 then 2 pulsars from Redcar can move to Durham to replace 1512/3 if Redcars PVR is decreasing but like I said above I know it probably won’t happen but it’s just a random guess that’s all