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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 21 Apr 2022
Does anyone know which services A-Line are covering tomorrow, hoping to get onto one of there ex GNE or Lothian buses to try
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 21 Apr 2022
(21 Apr 2022, 8:20 pm)Unber43 wrote Does anyone know which services A-Line are covering tomorrow, hoping to get onto one of there ex GNE or Lothian buses to try
Check what's tracking on bustimes during the day? I assume the arrangement is that they're a 'hot spare' of sort, so unlikely even they'll know in advance what they're covering.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 21 Apr 2022
(21 Apr 2022, 8:24 pm)Adrian wrote Check what's tracking on bustimes during the day? I assume the arrangement is that they're a 'hot spare' of sort, so unlikely even they'll know in advance what they're covering.Yesterday it was a Lothian, I just missed it on the 56 coming to Sunderland so I didn't bother even trying to get it.
I hear the lothians seats are very comfty. How are they on GNE's Ex-Lothian
They were on the 35 today from 6:30 so I'd imagine they would find out on the night
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MurdnunoC - 22 Apr 2022
(21 Apr 2022, 8:31 pm)Unber43 wrote Yesterday it was a Lothian, I just missed it on the 56 coming to Sunderland so I didn't bother even trying to get it.
I hear the lothians seats are very comfty. How are they on GNE's Ex-Lothian
They were on the 35 today from 6:30 so I'd imagine they would find out on the night
Lothian?
Lothian Buses or Lothian of Derwentside?
It's a bit out of the way if it's the former. If it's the latter, then good on them for making a resurgence and expoilting gaps in the market by filling in for uncovered GNE duties for financial gain. Hopefully we'll see more Lothian buses in Sunderland soon.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
Seems like there is no A-Line Covers today. Shame, there was loads of cancelled buses.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 9:34 am)MurdnunoC wrote Lothian?Plugging surely?
Lothian Buses or Lothian of Derwentside?
It's a bit out of the way if it's the former. If it's the latter, then good on them for making a resurgence and expoilting gaps in the market by filling in for uncovered GNE duties for financial gain. Hopefully we'll see more Lothian buses in Sunderland soon.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
There are a tonne of cancellations for tomorrow for GNE.
Disruptions and driver shortages - Dan - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm)Unber43 wrote There are a tonne of cancellations for tomorrow for GNE.
Wonder if Stagecoach could plug any of these gaps?
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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:49 pm)Dan wrote Wonder if Stagecoach could plug any of these gaps?Maybe, no service from the 35 from 11:55 to 13:55, and two 56's in a row missing.
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Other than that from what I can see The cancellations are pretty spread out, and the only services with "last buses" cancelled have buses running all night.
You never know maybe Stagecoach can extend the 3 or the 4 to Low Moorsley for a couple hours. But I can't even find the SC cancellations.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MurdnunoC - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:58 pm)Unber43 wrote Maybe, no service from the 35 from 11:55 to 13:55, and two 56's in a row missing.
Other than that from what I can see The cancellations are pretty spread out, and the only services with "last buses" cancelled have buses running all night.
You never know maybe Stagecoach can extend the 3 or the 4 to Low Moorsley for a couple hours. But I can't even find the SC cancellations.
I can definitely see that happening.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:49 pm)Dan wrote Wonder if Stagecoach could plug any of these gaps?Exploit surely?
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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Michael - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:58 pm)Unber43 wrote Maybe, no service from the 35 from 11:55 to 13:55, and two 56's in a row missing.
Other than that from what I can see The cancellations are pretty spread out, and the only services with "last buses" cancelled have buses running all night.
You never know maybe Stagecoach can extend the 3 or the 4 to Low Moorsley for a couple hours. But I can't even find the SC cancellations.
That gap in the 35 is quite bad.
Stagecoach never do, they just expect people to guess or just look at the app just before you go out for the bus.
Would that be allowed though?, I thought everything had to go VOSA etc for route changes like that
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 9:11 pm)Michael wrote That gap in the 35 is quite bad.I was joking about the 3 & 4.
Stagecoach never do, they just expect people to guess or just look at the app just before you go out for the bus.
Would that be allowed though?, I thought everything had to go VOSA etc for route changes like that
For the 35 you always have the 65 which you can connect to the 55 or X1 to east herrington and Sunderland.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Michael - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 9:15 pm)Unber43 wrote I was joking about the 3 & 4.
For the 35 you always have the 65 which you can connect to the 55 or X1 to east herrington and Sunderland.
Thing is, you had a good idea, even if it was a joke but I think most of the 35 is covered mostly by other routes?
Sunderland Hospital - loads of services
Castletown - 8 (GNE), 73 (GCT) 99 stagecoach
Hylton Castle - 3 (SC), 99 (SC)
Town End Farm - 12, 13 (SC)
Only section is the Town End Farm to Boldon - unless you go to the town for the 9.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 22 Apr 2022
I definitely read somewhere that this was all over, they’d hired loads of drivers, there was back slapping and retweets and celebratory posts…
*cough*
Better than ever! Huzzah
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Storx - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 9:22 pm)Michael wrote Thing is, you had a good idea, even if it was a joke but I think most of the 35 is covered mostly by other routes?
Sunderland Hospital - loads of services
Castletown - 8 (GNE), 73 (GCT) 99 stagecoach
Hylton Castle - 3 (SC), 99 (SC)
Town End Farm - 12, 13 (SC)
Only section is the Town End Farm to Boldon - unless you go to the town for the 9.
Stagecoach in Sunderland seemed to be (according to bustimes) having their own problems today mind. The 20 (SNE) was all over the place.
You missed the Herrington's though which don't have a bus service at all which used to be every 10 minutes at one point. The thing I don't get though is why the 39 is running nearly a full timetable with minibuses running every 15 minutes when the whole route is covered by other services in particular the 2 yet services like the 35 are having massive gaps.
What happens when you rely on overtime and there's a football match on, it's the same every home game, depots depending on who's playing.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
Wonder if Aline will be covering anything
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Drifter60 - 22 Apr 2022
Whilst I commend GNE for the cancellation list and on routes where changeovers are at the end of the route, the 60 for example it’s useful and clear. But it’s somewhat more difficult to understand those routes where changeovers are mid-route, such as the 35s tomorrow. So the 12:25 from Moorsley is cancelled, but is that cancelled all the way to Boldon? As surely the drivers change in Sunderland, and since the 14:20 from Boldon is NOT cancelled I’m guessing many of those Moorlsey departures are reinstated from Sunderland to Boldon?
Just using the 35 as an example. The X1 is perhaps even more messy to try and understand.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 22 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 10:56 pm)Drifter60 wrote Whilst I commend GNE for the cancellation list and on routes where changeovers are at the end of the route, the 60 for example it’s useful and clear. But it’s somewhat more difficult to understand those routes where changeovers are mid-route, such as the 35s tomorrow. So the 12:25 from Moorsley is cancelled, but is that cancelled all the way to Boldon? As surely the drivers change in Sunderland, and since the 14:20 from Boldon is NOT cancelled I’m guessing many of those Moorlsey departures are reinstated from Sunderland to Boldon?I agree, but its also confusing when drivers only do Sunderland-Low Moorsley and Back, and not the entire 4 hours. Same with the 20.
Just using the 35 as an example. The X1 is perhaps even more messy to try and understand.
Like there isn't a 35 for 2 hours (might be more) from Low Moorsley but Bolden doesn't have a gap that size.
Its really confusing. I thought the 4 was much worse when it was really bad. It would be better if they would split them up e.g
- From South Shields: The 15:53 journey will only run as far as Washington Galleries (arriving at 16:42),
19:38 will only run as far as Washington Galleries (arriving at 20:15),
20:38 will only run as far as Washington Galleries ( arriving at 21:15)
From Durham: 14:50 will only run as far as Washington Galleries (arriving at 15:32),
17:39.
From Waldridge Park Estate: 20:37 journey will start from Washington Galleries at 20:58, 21:37
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - busmanT - 23 Apr 2022
(22 Apr 2022, 8:58 pm)Unber43 wrote Maybe, no service from the 35 from 11:55 to 13:55, and two 56's in a row missing.All Stagecoach tell passengers (and you have to follow them on twitter) is:
Other than that from what I can see The cancellations are pretty spread out, and the only services with "last buses" cancelled have buses running all night.
You never know maybe Stagecoach can extend the 3 or the 4 to Low Moorsley for a couple hours. But I can't even find the SC cancellations.
"Due to some staffing issues not all services will operate as expected today"
which isn't very helpful at all.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 23 Apr 2022
They tend to list them all in the app which isn’t much use for the oldies
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Storx - 23 Apr 2022
imo they need a better website as it's a bit crap really. The ideal scenario would be have a database of all the routes which are displayed across both the app and website and when there's a cancelled service they can mark it as cancelled so it's marked as cancelled across both with striking through the times on the timetable pages with an exclamation at the top explaining what's wrong.
It's not really hard to do in reality but it's like everything else with buses they all use the same company and they're all identical with the same identical problems.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Rob44 - 23 Apr 2022
A message on twitter and/or facebook saying remember the 600pm 56 is the last one before the next 2 are canceled...... next one due at 730pm. use service xx then change at xx to xx as an alternative. I think that would be good but obviously the manpower involved would great.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Michael - 23 Apr 2022
(23 Apr 2022, 10:09 am)Ambassador wrote They tend to list them all in the app which isn’t much use for the oldies
and when they do put them down as cancelled, its normally last minute..
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Aaron21 - 24 Apr 2022
Does the X1 not go to Dalton Park on a Sunday. As all journey seem to be finished at Easington Lane
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - wibblejunior - 24 Apr 2022
(24 Apr 2022, 12:14 pm)Aaron21 wrote Does the X1 not go to Dalton Park on a Sunday. As all journey seem to be finished at Easington LaneBasically not, since frrom what I can see on Bustimes, on Sundays the :13 journeys from Newcastle terminate at Easington Lane, the :33 journeys terminate at Washington Galleries, while the :53 journeys extend to Peterlee.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - F114TML - 24 Apr 2022
Yeah, it doesn't
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Interesting, that 2300 to Peterlee though, given the departure time of the previous through service.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 24 Apr 2022
Anyone know what ALine Bus is Aline Coaches 4?
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 28 Apr 2022
I got a Aline on the 20 yesterday, it was one of the ex-Lothian ones. The seats were so comfortable.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 14 May 2022
The last two 38C's are cancelled tomorrow