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RE: Nexus Tenders | Sunderland, Washington & Gateshead - May 2022 - Andreos1 - 19 Mar 2022
(17 Mar 2022, 10:30 pm)Storx wrote The biggest problem with North Tyneside is it's so fragmented. Right now there's Arriva, GNE, Stagecoach, GCT and the Metro (soon add Phoenix aswell) and there's absolutely no sensible ticketing to use in between them for the odd journey so it gets expensive fast. Not to mention Network One tickets are horribly advertised and some operators are terrible (GCT).[Not just fragmented, but stuck in the past, with the traditional town - city centre routes persisting, despite the populations shopping and work habits changing.
It doesn't help that the profitable Stagecoach routes all end in Wallsend and then GNE pick up the rumps to the East from there either. In an ideal world the likes of the 317 would extend onto the 40 or 41 would extend onto the 12 (similar to the 62/63 in Westerhope for example) but it'll never happen when there's two operators. The 22 being a prime example of something useful happening and giving Howdon direct services through.
They're as stuck in their ways as my posts.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Sunderland, Washington & Gateshead - May 2022 - V514DFT - 19 Mar 2022
(18 Mar 2022, 10:46 am)Storx wrote The 317 is a funny one imo as the North Shields to Wallsend is best ran by Stagecoach but the other half is better ran by Arriva. Hard one to really pick the right operator without splitting it.Another one you could do is Route the 12 along Westbourne Avenue and the Fossway,then re-route the 40 upto Walker bus terminal and Titan Road,resuming its route at Welbeck Road
It's poor the Wallsend links for St Peters Basin like.
Personally though the 18 would be better merged with the 6/7 and the Freeman -> BT Call Centre been covered by an extended 38 every 30 mins imo. Would give Stoneleigh Avenue a faster service to Newcastle (they already have Byker) and give Heaton / Byker a direct link through to Gosforth and beyond including the beloved Kingston Park on hereand just get arid of it altogether similar to the 62 extension in West Newcastle.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Michael - 20 Mar 2022
The fares below will be in place from 27 March 2022 on these bus services that Nexus pays for:
In Newcastle and North Tyneside: 84/84a, 335, 342, 552, M6, W1 and W2
https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/fares-selected-nexus-bus-services
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - OrangeArrow49 - 20 Mar 2022
(20 Mar 2022, 11:13 pm)Michael wrote The fares below will be in place from 27 March 2022 on these bus services that Nexus pays for:
In Newcastle and North Tyneside: 84/84a, 335, 342, 552, M6, W1 and W2
https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/fares-selected-nexus-bus-services
So I assume the day ticket is valid on all Nexus services not just the service its purchased on? I think its a good move, and one I have suggested before and its about time it was introduced.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Thomas12 - 22 Mar 2022
(20 Mar 2022, 11:13 pm)Michael wrote The fares below will be in place from 27 March 2022 on these bus services that Nexus pays for:
In Newcastle and North Tyneside: 84/84a, 335, 342, 552, M6, W1 and W2
https://www.nexus.org.uk/bus/fares-selected-nexus-bus-services
So a fare which is currently £1.70 on the 335 will increase to £2.10 - seems a bit steep of an increase.
Also, that's quite hidden on Nexus' website - you'd think they'd publicise it a bit more or how are people supposed to know about this?
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Mark1 - 23 Mar 2022
Does anyone know whether the 19 or 317 will accept ferry and metro tickets in place of the 333?
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - RMF1254 - 23 Mar 2022
If the open top service returns that could go down there and right along the Fish Quay. Also, as that area is constantly growing in popularity and car parking is quite limited on busy days, there may even be a service introduced that takes that route between N Shields and Tynemouth. I think it also said in the press release that an increased height through the bridge was also for lorries.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 9:34 am)RMF1254 wrote If the open top service returns that could go down there and right along the Fish Quay. Also, as that area is constantly growing in popularity and car parking is quite limited on busy days, there may even be a service introduced that takes that route between N Shields and Tynemouth. I think it also said in the press release that an increased height through the bridge was also for lorries.There's quite a few rumours going round about one this year. It is possible that GNE could do it using the 3 open toppers used on Toontour since there being replaced but who knows
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Economic505 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 11:16 am)Train8261 wrote There's quite a few rumours going round about one this year. It is possible that GNE could do it using the 3 open toppers used on Toontour since there being replaced but who knowsA SNE open top bus will be on duty on Service 19 in Sunderland. They were also deployed on the E services last summer.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 11:19 am)Economic505 wrote A SNE open top bus will be on duty on Service 19 in Sunderland. They were also deployed on the E services last summer.If gne don't withdrawn or scrap the current toon tour decekrs 3997/3998/3999 they could be used on a summer service along North Shields to Whitley Bay
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - stagecoachbusdepot - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 1:08 pm)Train8261 wrote If gne don't withdrawn or scrap the current toon tour decekrs 3997/3998/3999 they could be used on a summer service along North Shields to Whitley Bay
Will never happen but would be great example of integration and partnership working to see Stagecoach running an open top Sunderland- South Shields and GNE North Shields - Whitley Bay with through ticketing option including Ferry. Would make for great local days out with hop on hop off options.
Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Dan - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 8:46 am)Mark1 wrote Does anyone know whether the 19 or 317 will accept ferry and metro tickets in place of the 333?
The 19 will, yes.
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RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Mark1 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 8:28 pm)Dan wrote The 19 will, yes.Thanks Dan. On a similar note are Metro tickets vaild to the Quayside on the Q3?
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Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - MVK 500R - 23 Mar 2022
Metro tickets have never been valid on the Q3.
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RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - DaveFromUpNorth - 23 Mar 2022
No the wonder Nexus Secured services are not getting passengers when (GCT ) 41A (21:10 ish ) runs the service last night with its internal lights off and destination saying Holy Cross travelling from Hadrian Park
Looked like it was Not in Service - was driving in the opposite direction when I passed the service
On reflection I should of turned round and took a photo.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 24 Mar 2022
An article about the changes on the 27th on the nexus website from yesterday
Nexus to implement £4.5m rescue package in response to bus cuts from March 27
Big changes to bus services in Newcastle and North Tyneside will come into effect on Sunday, 27 March, when a £4.5m Nexus rescue package will stave off the worst effects of cuts made by commercial bus companies as their covid-relief funding ends.
The cuts to routes and services by Go North East and Stagecoach would have left some communities without bus services, and cut links to shops and hospitals, business parks, schools and colleges.
But public transport body Nexus is putting in place a £4.5m package using funding from local authorities to replace commercial services which would otherwise be lost in Newcastle and North Tyneside, or re-cast existing publicly-funded route.
People who are affected by the changes, some the biggest for more than 35 years, can get all of the latest on the route changes, the new timetables and new route information at www.nexus.org.uk/bus/27march2022
Nexus has been working with local communities in North Tyneside and Newcastle to explain the impact of the changes, and it has already held 12 community drop-in sessions across the two affected areas to inform people about what is changing.
Customer Services Director, Huw Lewis, said: “This Sunday marks the biggest single change to local bus services in 35 in years, due to cuts to route and services by bus companies who have seen their covid funding come to an end.
“Our £4.5m rescue package will ensure that as many people as possible still have a local bus they can catch to get to shops, the GP surgery and other essential services.
“We have linked the new publicly-funded services we are creating and taken on with the high-frequency bus routes commercial companies continue to operate. We have worked in partnership with the bus companies who have also revised their changes in places to better maintain local connections.
“The scale of the cuts means we are not able to provide a like-for-like replacement to every bus route that is being cut, but we can seek to keep local people connected. We are working with communities across Newcastle and North Tyneside to ensure that people know what is changing and what bus services are best for them.”
Councillor Carl Johnson, Deputy Mayor at North Tyneside Council and Chair of the North East Joint Transport Committee Tyne and Wear subcommittee, said: “Buses play a vital role in communities across the North East, they help residents reach their jobs, elderly people connect with family and younger people socialise and reach educational services.
“I know how essential these services are to communities in my own ward and across North Tyneside and that is why we, along with other local authorities across Tyne and Wear, have stepped up to provide extra funding to Nexus so they can pull this rescue package together.
“However, even this cash injection will not be enough to replace all routes like-for-like, meaning people may have to walk further to find a bus, there will be less direct links to city centres and key employment sites and less frequent services across many routes.
“The Government must confirm what funding is available and continue to provide financial support to bus companies until passenger numbers are closer to pre-pandemic levels. Across the North East we have seen a 75% of passengers return to services, underlining just how critical these buses are to our communities.”
Commercial bus companies operate 90% of bus routes in Tyne and Wear and decide where and how often these run.
Nexus has powers to provide additional services, using funding from local authorities, where there are gaps in these commercial services which would otherwise leave people without access to public transport.
Bus companies are seeing the Government’s Bus Recovery Grant withdrawn at the end of March 2022, while passenger numbers are yet to recover from the pandemic, and currently stand at around 75% of pre-covid levels.
Nexus uses a common criteria to assess where it will step-in to provide a publicly-funded bus built on the following priorities, which reflect consultation it has carried out with local people:
• A bus or Metro service within 400 metres of homes.
• Public transport at least hourly to essential shops, local services and local employment sites.
• A local service to a hub (such as a town centre or interchange) from which people can catch frequent bus or Metro services to a wider range of destinations.
• Reducing the time it takes to reach major employment sites and hospitals as far as possible, including changes.
Nexus and bus companies are working on information campaigns to make sure local people can find out what is changing, including Nexus replacing thousands of bus stop timetables.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - V514DFT - 24 Mar 2022
Well the replacement of timetables at bus stops has started,noticed earlier when out and about near where i live that the bus stop now has the timetable for the 317
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 24 Mar 2022
Nice to see GNE withdraw an early 5.54am on a Sunday from Whitley Bay now starts at Percy Main The Redburn
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 25 Mar 2022
8341 has transferred to Percy Main
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Mark1 - 25 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 9:12 pm)MVK 500R wrote Metro tickets have never been valid on the Q3.
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It seems that its only Metro weekly, 4 weekly and annual season tickets with zone A are valid on the Q3 between Haymarket and St Peters Basin as well as on the 53 and 54.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/metro-season-ticket
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - omnicity4659 - 25 Mar 2022
Are they valid on all of the 53 and 54?
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Mark1 - 25 Mar 2022
(25 Mar 2022, 1:45 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Are they valid on all of the 53 and 54?I wouldn't have thought so a 7 day zone A metro ticket is £11.50 while a 7 day Voltra ticket is £13.
I think in the past the central zone referred to by nexus may have only been between central station and Gateshead via the Quayside.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Rob44 - 25 Mar 2022
(25 Mar 2022, 4:36 pm)Mark1 wrote I wouldn't have thought so a 7 day zone A metro ticket is £11.50 while a 7 day Voltra ticket is £13.
I think in the past the central zone referred to by nexus may have only been between central station and Gateshead via the Quayside.
I'm sure mark1 is correct although this goes back to the days of Stagecoach running the service on behalf of nexus... they saw a s an extension of the metro down to the quay side so you could use your metro ticket.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 26 Mar 2022
The buses set to be allocated to the 19/41/41A are 8341 to 8345
8341/8343/8344 all been in service since transfer with 8342&8345 being stored at the depot today
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - peter - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 6:44 pm)Train8261 wrote The buses set to be allocated to the 19/41/41A are 8341 to 8345
8341/8343/8344 all been in service since transfer with 8342&8345 being stored at the depot today
Presumably 8346 will transfer as well as the PVR's are 3 for each respectively so 6 needed in total
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Unber43 - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 7:52 pm)peter wrote Presumably 8346 will transfer as well as the PVR's are 3 for each respectively so 6 needed in totalSo are 8339-40 just staying in Deptford. Surely they need some spares.
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 7:56 pm)Unber43 wrote So are 8339-40 just staying in Deptford. Surely they need some spares.There getting StreetLite from Washington due to 6301to6307 are going to Washington
(26 Mar 2022, 7:52 pm)peter wrote Presumably 8346 will transfer as well as the PVR's are 3 for each respectively so 6 needed in total8340 might move tomorrow & might move 8339 as well as only 8342/8345 were at the depot today
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Unber43 - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 8:37 pm)Train8261 wrote There getting StreetLite from Washington due to 6301to6307 are going to WashingtonI meant Percy Main need spares
RE: Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Train8261 - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 8:44 pm)Unber43 wrote I meant Percy Main need sparesI'm thinking they might just move the whole lot of 83++ over to Percy Main
Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022 - Dan - 26 Mar 2022
(26 Mar 2022, 8:44 pm)Unber43 wrote I meant Percy Main need spares
They have 5479 and 5480.
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