(05 Nov 2018, 8:50 pm)GNE6312 wrote New peak service

1X

Cobalt business park
North Tyneside hospital
Whitley bay
Tynemouth
North shields
Tyne tunnel trading estate
Silverlink
Coast road
Newcastle city centre
Gateshead
Low fell
Wrekenton

Every 30 mins
From wreckenton buses will operate from 6am to 10am
From cobalt buses will operate from 3:0ppm till 6:pm

(05 Nov 2018, 9:54 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Surely we can't have another service numbered 1! 
Newcastle already has a 1, 1, 1A, N1, Q1, X1, X1A.

(05 Nov 2018, 9:54 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Surely we can't have another service numbered 1! 
Newcastle already has a 1, 1, 1A, N1, Q1, X1, X1A.

(05 Nov 2018, 8:50 pm)GNE6312 wrote New peak service

1X

Cobalt business park
North Tyneside hospital
Whitley bay
Tynemouth
North shields
Tyne tunnel trading estate
Silverlink
Coast road
Newcastle city centre
Gateshead
Low fell
Wrekenton

Every 30 mins
From wreckenton buses will operate from 6am to 10am
From cobalt buses will operate from 3:0ppm till 6:pm

(05 Nov 2018, 10:01 pm)GNE6312 wrote The peak coaster 1 so needs a 1 in it

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The peak coaster 1 so needs a 1 in it

(26 Nov 2018, 7:20 pm)GNE6312 wrote X90
Metrocentre
A1
Washington Castle road
Wshington galleries
Sunderland highway
Wessington way
Castletown way Sainsbury's
North hylton road
Southwick
Fulwell
Seaburn
Roker
Sunderland park lane interchange

Depot: deptford
Frequency: every 30 minutes 7 days a week
Allocation: mostly dual dual door with 1 gemini 2 and 1 of 5337/8

(26 Nov 2018, 7:39 pm)S830OFT wrote Wouldn't work, would be easier extending X88 back to Sunderland.

(26 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm)JM03 wrote Maybe combining it with the 56 to Concord? X56?

(29 Nov 2018, 1:42 am)S830OFT wrote X90 (The Central Express) Newcastle Central Station - NonStop - Newcastle Airport.
New Direct Express between Newcastle and The Airport. The service will operate up to Every 15 minutes 7 days a week during daytimes. The service will also operate during the early hours of the morning to meet flights landing.

The service will offer Complimentary Free Wi-Fi access enabling customers to catch up with last minute E-mails or to search the web. Passengers will also experience additional features such as USB Charging, allowing for that little extra charge prior to boarding your flight. Tables will be also be available offering panoramic views with the advantage of additional leg room and Charging Points opposed to USBs.

To ensure you can skip purchasing a ticket from the driver, the option of advance booking is available which will entitle you to 50% off the fare.

The aim of this service is to bring direct express links from the Airport to the Heart of the City in Style and Comfort. The idea to make every minute of the journey feel tranquil and relaxing, whilst offering it in a specious and clean environment.

Prices roll in at:
£5.00 - Adult Single
£2.50 - Advance Adult Single
£10.00 - Weekly Return
£5.00 - Advance Weekly Return
£20.00 - Monthly Return
£10.00 - Advance Monthly Return.
Children under the age of 15 travel Free of Charge when accompanied by an adult.

All Go North East tickets and all other Bus Passes are NOT valid for travel.

(29 Nov 2018, 8:39 pm)Jamie M wrote The airport isnt busy enough to justify this and is served extremely well by the metro and stagecoach. I could not see any other commercial service profiting from this.

(05 Dec 2018, 11:02 pm)Malarkey wrote So since moving to my new location a month ago I have become a daily user of the 21 and I think Go North East could do with looking to improve the service during the peak period on a morning and evening.

I have noticed when on 9am starts the 21 which i'd use into Newcastle after serving the Low Fell "The Cannon" where it leaves at full capacity including standees leaves quite a lot of passengers at the stops which follow through to Gateshead, on Monday I was the last person to get on at my location and the driver would not allow anyone else on, this allowed me to a rough head count at each stop as we passed at slow speed, my calculations were quite shocking a full bus were left standing at the stops between Low Fell and Gateshead, what is more interesting is how many of those people manage to get on the next 21 that comes, likelihood this would be equally as busy.

The main problem is with the service going straight through the middle of large housing areas those who don't have a direct service to Eldon Square, therefore they'll walk several minutes to the nearest stop.

I think perhaps have some short runs from the Angel Of The North could perhaps reduce capacity issues on the 21, some will say well you have 1 which uses deckers surely this would solve the issue, I used the 1 yesterday into work to which 4 people got on with me, the remaining 15+ passengers got the 21 which came in behind the 1, quite shocking right until you realise the vast majority will go direct into Eldon Square instead and choose not to walk from Market Street, makes you wonder if these passengers purchase a Angel weekly saver as it is £2 cheaper than a purple week pass or are paying a £1 more for use of the X21 as well as that get packed if the 21 doesn't show up first.

Either way some needs to be done with service whether if that is by increasing frequency or purchasing higher capacity deckers which would mean going tri-axle.

(05 Dec 2018, 11:02 pm)Malarkey wrote So since moving to my new location a month ago I have become a daily user of the 21 and I think Go North East could do with looking to improve the service during the peak period on a morning and evening.

I have noticed when on 9am starts the 21 which i'd use into Newcastle after serving the Low Fell "The Cannon" where it leaves at full capacity including standees leaves quite a lot of passengers at the stops which follow through to Gateshead, on Monday I was the last person to get on at my location and the driver would not allow anyone else on, this allowed me to a rough head count at each stop as we passed at slow speed, my calculations were quite shocking a full bus were left standing at the stops between Low Fell and Gateshead, what is more interesting is how many of those people manage to get on the next 21 that comes, likelihood this would be equally as busy.

The main problem is with the service going straight through the middle of large housing areas those who don't have a direct service to Eldon Square, therefore they'll walk several minutes to the nearest stop.

I think perhaps have some short runs from the Angel Of The North could perhaps reduce capacity issues on the 21, some will say well you have 1 which uses deckers surely this would solve the issue, I used the 1 yesterday into work to which 4 people got on with me, the remaining 15+ passengers got the 21 which came in behind the 1, quite shocking right until you realise the vast majority will go direct into Eldon Square instead and choose not to walk from Market Street, makes you wonder if these passengers purchase a Angel weekly saver as it is £2 cheaper than a purple week pass or are paying a £1 more for use of the X21 as well as that get packed if the 21 doesn't show up first.

Either way some needs to be done with service whether if that is by increasing frequency or purchasing higher capacity deckers which would mean going tri-axle.

(06 Dec 2018, 10:34 am)Andreos1 wrote I've mentioned the issues with the 21 many times in the past and believe that relying on the service on such a long route, operating on a key corridor is a poor operational decision.
The X21 now stopping in Low Fell has released some pressure on the 21, but not all of it. 
The suggestion above with my X11 was designed with the 21 in mind again. 
In the past I have suggested local services (24, 25, 26 etc) make a return. It would then leave the 21 as a viable option for longer distances. 

You rightly point out that the 1 is an option. If passengers are happy walking to the centre of town (just look at where it stops in comparison to the days of yore at Worswick Street or when the 21's terminated at Pilgrim St and the issues that people supposedly had then). 

Passenger levels will reach their natural plateau soon (if they haven't already), as there are only so many people living on the route who are travelling to Newcastle and willing to travel by bus. 
To maintain that plateau, the service needs to be reliable and attractive. If its not, numbers will drop and those who have an alternative mode of transport or are able to chose their destination - will do so.

If you look at Old Durham Road and the services on there (local and distance; stopping and limited stop), it makes you wonder why they don't offer something similar along Durham Road.

(30 Dec 2018, 8:44 pm)GNE6312 wrote 77
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Belsay
Ponteland
Newcastle airport
Prestwick
Dinnington
Old great north road
A1 stannington bridge
Stannington (village hall & village centre)
Stannington St Mary's inn
Whitehouse farm
Morpeth

Every hour
Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

X77
Hexham
Corbridge
A68
A696
Otterburn
Belsay
Ponteland
Newcastle airport
Prestwick
Dinnington
Old great north road
A1 stannington bridge
Stannington
Stannington St Mary's inn
Whitehouse farm
Morpeth

Every hour(creating an every half hour joint service from Hexham to Otterburn, Belsay, ponteland, Newcastle airport, Prestwick, Dinnington, stannington, whitehousefarm & Morpeth when joint with the 77)

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

78
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Alnwick

Every hour

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

X78
Hexham
Corbridge
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Alnwick

Every hour (making an every half hour joint service from Hexham to Otterburn, Elsdon, Thropton, Rothbury & Alnwick when joint with the 78)


79
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Longframlington
Longhorsley 
Morpeth

Every hour

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

(23 Dec 2018, 9:58 am)GNE6312 wrote X65
Gateshead
Non-stop
Metrocentre
Non-stop
Throckley
Non-stop via A69
Corbridge
Hexham

Every 20 mins
Allocated:dual door or ex eyms president

(30 Dec 2018, 8:44 pm)GNE6312 wrote 77
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Belsay
Ponteland
Newcastle airport
Prestwick
Dinnington
Old great north road
A1 stannington bridge
Stannington (village hall & village centre)
Stannington St Mary's inn
Whitehouse farm
Morpeth

Every hour
Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

X77
Hexham
Corbridge
A68
A696
Otterburn
Belsay
Ponteland
Newcastle airport
Prestwick
Dinnington
Old great north road
A1 stannington bridge
Stannington
Stannington St Mary's inn
Whitehouse farm
Morpeth

Every hour(creating an every half hour joint service from Hexham to Otterburn, Belsay, ponteland, Newcastle airport, Prestwick, Dinnington, stannington, whitehousefarm & Morpeth when joint with the 77)

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

78
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Alnwick

Every hour

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

X78
Hexham
Corbridge
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Alnwick

Every hour (making an every half hour joint service from Hexham to Otterburn, Elsdon, Thropton, Rothbury & Alnwick when joint with the 78)


79
Hexham
Acomb
Humsaugh
Bellingham
A68
A696
Otterburn
Elsdon
Thropton
Rothbury
Longframlington
Longhorsley 
Morpeth

Every hour

Allocation: new optare versa xFEs

(30 Dec 2018, 10:56 pm)xpm wrote It's an interesting one this - when I first read it, I thought no way - but on second glance maybe there's some potential mileage in it.  

Running through to Gateshead though - there really isn't the footfall to justify it - it would be better to terminate, and catch one of the many connections from the Metrocentre.  You're also just asking for timetable issues with traffic at peak time trying to compete along the already congested corridors back/forth from Gateshead to the Metrocentre.

Depends how you want to take in Throckley - either from the Heddon end, or how else do you catch Throckley without doing some sort of loop?

It would also put it in competition with the X84/X85/10.  Passenger loyalty on the whole through Throckley usually comes down to which bus comes first, and it's still quite a Stagecoach stronghold.

The route would kill old buses very quickly - there's a lot of dual carriageway driving on that route at top speed, and the ride would be none to comfortable either.

Frequency - not a chance for 20 mins - hourly service would be more than adequate, assuming the trip could be made realistically in an hour with a PVR of 2.

(02 Jan 2019, 7:02 pm)GNE6312 wrote 18
Morpeth
Whitehouse farm
Stannington St Mary's
Stannington village
A1
Beacon hill
Cramlington
High pit
East cramlington
Cramlington hospital
Seaton deleval
New Hartley
Seaton sluice
Whitley bay


Hourly


The morpeth to stannington section can replace the S1/2 incase the worst happens in PCLs court case

(02 Jan 2019, 7:17 pm)S830OFT wrote Wish the 57A could go back to Morpeth...