(24 Apr 2021, 8:27 am)Tiger5105 wrote Is there a dupe on X11 today, as if bustimes is right, there's only 26 seats free on 6377 by the time it got to Washington and 7111 is tracking on X9 today.

(24 Apr 2021, 8:27 am)Tiger5105 wrote Is there a dupe on X11 today, as if bustimes is right, there's only 26 seats free on 6377 by the time it got to Washington and 7111 is tracking on X9 today.

(24 Apr 2021, 2:03 pm)Clifton Hignett III wrote The big question remains:

Will it serve Billingham on the return journey?

(24 Apr 2021, 9:38 am)Storx wrote Appears that it was on but got pulled at Washington.

There's 36/62 people on it at Guisborough according to the ticket machine which BusTimes used behind the scene.

RecordedAtTime 2021-04-24T09:33:43+00:00
ItemIdentifier bd65bd8d-c4c6-4907-8e91-1b5891a4255e
ValidUntilTime 2021-04-24T09:39:23.891136
MonitoredVehicleJourney
LineRef X11
DirectionRef outbound
PublishedLineName X11
OperatorRef GNEL
DestinationRef 3200YNA06580
VehicleLocation
Longitude -0.992243
Latitude 54.524876
Bearing 23.0
Occupancy seatsAvailable
BlockRef 11
VehicleJourneyRef 1
VehicleRef 6377
Extensions
VehicleJourney
Operational
TicketMachine
TicketMachineServiceCode X11
JourneyCode 0827
VehicleUniqueId 6377
DriverRef 95872
SeatedOccupancy 36
SeatedCapacity 62
WheelchairOccupancy 0
WheelchairCapacity 1
OccupancyThresholds 34,41

That's the data you get for those who's ever been interested in the bus open data for live buses and is what powers Bustimes pretty much.

(24 Apr 2021, 6:01 pm)N1cholas wrote Dont forget that 36 passengers is the maximum to allow for social distancing so in theory the bus was full

(24 Apr 2021, 6:37 pm)Storx wrote Are you sure on that. I believe the occupation thresholds are the limits for buses and it's used for like bands green below 34 is good, 35 - 40 close then 41+ is over capacity. I could be wrong but I believe it's there for the capacity tracking apps so would suggest 40 is the capacity.

(24 Apr 2021, 6:57 pm)N1cholas wrote It all depends on the groups of passengers, if you have 20 couples on then you get 40 passengers, if you have 15 couples, 6 single passengers (who in theory take a double seat due to social distancing) then 36 could well make the bus "full" like i say the group size of passengers determine capacity

(24 Apr 2021, 6:57 pm)N1cholas wrote It all depends on the groups of passengers, if you have 20 couples on then you get 40 passengers, if you have 15 couples, 6 single passengers (who in theory take a double seat due to social distancing) then 36 could well make the bus "full" like i say the group size of passengers determine capacity

(24 Apr 2021, 8:17 pm)Storx wrote Yeah that's fair points then. Makes sense with the groups etc.

Bit off topic I admit but what's the rules with groups as I'm guessing have 2 sets of twos couldn't sit next each other like

XX - XX
XX - XX
XX - XX

so guessing it'll have to be like

XO - XX
XX - OX
XO - XX

X's being people and O's being gaps which would reduce capacity regardless or is it allowed which wouldn't be a metre between people.

(24 Apr 2021, 10:27 pm)Adrian wrote The rules are still to keep a 1 metre distance whilst wearing a face covering, I reckon the gangway is probably less than 0.5m on your average bus, so you shouldn't have two couples occupying two pairs of seats next to each other.

(25 Apr 2021, 11:53 am)Storx wrote Thank you, had a feeling that would've been the approach. Believe it's how trains and airlines (bar they're 3's) are currently doing it with reservations.

(24 Apr 2021, 7:36 pm)GNE6312 wrote I'd stick to an advisory capacity of 30-35 for a decker no matter who's travelling in groups. Also speaking of capacity (althogh off topic) one driver on the 8 allowed someone to get on and just stand today which was abit of a silly move especially when she acknowledged the vus was full abd still asked if the passenger wanted on.

Our Seasider X11 service will now be operated by one of our premium coaches, giving you even more comfort for your journey.

We'll also have a duplicate bus available, so there's no need to worry about not getting a seat.

(29 Apr 2021, 8:34 am)streetdeckfan wrote Looks like the X11 will no longer be operated by 6377, but will now be operated by one of the X9/X10 coaches.

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1387683607469334532


I thought the reason for using 6377 over a coach was for the additional capacity, although if they're going to be running a duplicate anyway, it makes more sense to run the coaches which will presumably be more fuel efficient

(29 Apr 2021, 8:41 am)Micheal Aaron wrote I think go North East hit a really good thing with this X11 if last weekend 6377 was full at Washington and now they have decided to put one of there brand new coaches on. They really did something mad here with a new holiday service. Question is wonder how full this service will be when it runs daily

(25 Apr 2021, 11:53 am)Storx wrote Thank you, had a feeling that would've been the approach. Believe it's how trains and airlines (bar they're 3's) are currently doing it with reservations.

(29 Apr 2021, 8:38 am)Rapidsnap wrote Plus it has an onboard Toilet.

(01 May 2021, 9:32 am)Micheal Aaron wrote Even with the X Lines Coach now. 7154 had to be duplicate by 6377 at Heworth. Goes to show how popular this service is getting

(01 May 2021, 10:57 pm)streetdeckfan wrote So really nowt's changed? All they've done is put the coach in front of the StreetDeck and called it an upgrade.

Good thing it's continuing to be busy though!