(15 Jun 2018, 9:04 pm)S830OFT wrote One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.

(04 Jul 2018, 8:13 pm)V514DFT wrote Bring back the 14 and 14A is what i say
Newcastle: extend the 18 to Killingworth via Forest Hall and to the Cobalt and re-number it 64

(04 Jul 2018, 9:18 pm)JM03 wrote May as well withdraw K3 and what routes were the 14/A

(06 Jul 2018, 9:48 pm)V514DFT wrote 14/A was a service in Sunderland,used to serve the docks,and tbh whenever i see the K3 its always empty

(06 Jul 2018, 10:34 pm)JM03 wrote Is it a nexus secured contract on K3?

(06 Jul 2018, 10:34 pm)JM03 wrote Is it a nexus secured contract on K3?

(18 Nov 2018, 1:11 am)S830OFT wrote X36: Sunderland - Grangetown - NonStop - Dalton Park - Peterlee - Blackhall - Hartlepool - Seaton Carew - Middlesbrough.
New Express service between Sunderland and Middlesbrough, this service will replace service 1 between Seaton Carew and Middlesbrough whilst providing new express links from Middlesbrough, Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Dalton Park to Sunderland. Journeys on service 1 will be revised to operate between Seaton Carew and High Tunstall only.

This service will operate every 30 minutes Monday to Saturday and hourly Sunday.

(18 Nov 2018, 10:25 am)tcts24 wrote I'm guessing that would be Sunderland and Stockton depots? Giving Hartlepool depot yet another kick in the teeth!

(18 Nov 2018, 11:53 am)S830OFT wrote Even though I'm a outsider to Hartlepool, I can't see a point in the Hartlepool Depot, apparently they have a very low budget aswell which means investment is very little.

(18 Nov 2018, 2:32 pm)tcts24 wrote I'm from Hartlepool and other than brief periods in the North West and the East Midlands, have lived here most of my life and if I suddenly came into enough cash to fund me buying out Cleveland Transit from Stagecoach, I would seriously consider closing Hartlepool and shifting everything to Portrack, even though my regime would need about another ten buses or so at Hartlepool. Stagecoach and the local authority have spent over 20 years gradually ebbing away at the local network, I can't help but wonder why they delay the inevitable. Giving Hartlepool another service like the suggested X36 could only help to justify keeping the depot open. That said, Arriva and Go-Ahead have the Sunderland - Hartlepool section well and truly covered and I'm not convinced it would be worth while the risk of Stagecoach antagonising the other two over that corridor. If anything, Go-North East would be the most likey to run it as an extention of their X6?

(18 Nov 2018, 3:20 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see GNE entering stagecoach area between Hartlepool and boro. when stagecoach bought HT , Arriva and stagecoach made a deal with Arriva giving up the Hartlepool corridor and Arriva gained areas of Cleveland. Despite GNE trying to purchase Hartlepool quite a number of years ago from stagecoach with a point blank no.


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(18 Nov 2018, 3:34 pm)Andreos1 wrote They have between Boro/Billingham and Boro/Stockton though and there hasn't been much of a fightback, despite the GNE services being the quicker of the operators between the points.

There's obviously a reason for that and I would argue that a similar set-up between Hartlepool/Boro wouldn't be too much of a hardship to the incumbent.
The market that the 1 and 36 covers in Hartlepool and on towards Boro would be totally different to an express between Hartlepool and Boro. 

Whether there would be a demand for an extension to the X6 is another thing mind.

(18 Nov 2018, 3:55 pm)cbma06 wrote The x9 route is similar to the old route that was used from a bus company which GNE took over, and the X10 is a long established route which is still owned by the same company even though it’s not a joint route with another company anymore.


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(18 Nov 2018, 11:53 am)S830OFT wrote Even though I'm a outsider to Hartlepool, I can't see a point in the Hartlepool Depot, apparently they have a very low budget aswell which means investment is very little.

(04 Jul 2018, 8:13 pm)V514DFT wrote Bring back the 14 and 14A is what i say
Newcastle: extend the 18 to Killingworth via Forest Hall and to the Cobalt and re-number it 64

(18 Nov 2018, 8:46 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote The 18 used to serve Wallsend, but now terminates at Walker. For that reason I can't see it being extended to Cobalt via Killingworth and Forest Hall. Re-numbering it 64 would be sensible, I think. 18 is a strange number for the service, with no service numbers between 12 and 18 and then service 22 is the only number in the 20s. I would re-number the 18 to 64 if serving Killingworth and the 22 would be just the 2, so that services 1 and 2 serve Cobalt Business Park. 

Why did the 18 get withdrawn from Wallsend?

The 18 in Byker is very weird, the Walker and Longbenton-bound services both head towards Morrisons then go back along Shields Road the other way, with the Walker 18 turning in towards Byker Metro and the Longbenton 18 continuing straight on. A little confusing! The 18 is an unpopular service and could do with revising. Byker/Walker/Wallsend have a lot of services! The 12 should be 12/A and the 39/40 merged to become 39/A or 40/A towards Walker/Wallsend only running as 12 and 39/40 towards Fenham/Dumpling Hall/Chapel House.

(18 Nov 2018, 8:56 pm)NewcastleOne wrote I wouldn’t change anything just because the way it is have existed for a long time, apart from the 22 extension of course.

(18 Nov 2018, 9:04 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Just because something has existed for a long time, does that mean change is a bad idea? Not disagreeing, just a discussion point. 

Possibly confusing to change service numbers which have existed for so long, but confusion would possibly be reduced in the long-term.

1 and 2 - Cobalt/Slatyford and Throckley (via Denton Burn), 10 and 11 North Kenton/West Denton (via Denton Burn), 12 to Wallsend and 12A to Walker, 39 or 40 to Wallsend and 39A or 40A to Walker, 62, 63 and 64 to Killingworth via Byker etc.
Sometimes changing the service numbers into groups of related numbers/services could help passengers. The 18 and 22 numbers seem quite far out to me, although if retaining service 22 as 22 I would change the 32/32A to 23/23A as like the 22 they serve Byker and Walkergate.

(18 Nov 2018, 3:20 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see GNE entering stagecoach area between Hartlepool and boro. when stagecoach bought HT , Arriva and stagecoach made a deal with Arriva giving up the Hartlepool corridor and Arriva gained areas of Cleveland. Despite GNE trying to purchase Hartlepool quite a number of years ago from stagecoach with a point blank no.


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