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RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:41 pm)Michael wrote Maybe not but still shows people support them.
They probables aim for the 2020 election
I despair at the prospect of people supporting them.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:41 pm)Michael wrote Maybe not but still shows people support them.They were talking about that on the BBC not long ago...UKIP's 2020 strategy
They probables aim for the 2020 election
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:43 pm)MrFozz wrote They were talking about that on the BBC not long ago...UKIP's 2020 strategy
Hopefully we see the likes of TUSC in more areas next time out.
http://www.tusc.org.uk/policy
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:43 pm)MrFozz wrote They were talking about that on the BBC not long ago...UKIP's 2020 strategy
UKIP's strategy will be the same in any election.
Sow distrust amongst the electorate and single out a particular group of outsiders to blame.
It worked well in the 1920s and 30s and, rather depressingly, it may work well in the 2020s and 30s.
I think I may move to a more liberal country when that time comes...like Zimbabwe or Belarus for example.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:47 pm)Andreos1 wrote Hopefully we see the likes of TUSC in more areas next time out.
http://www.tusc.org.uk/policy
The TUSC dude in one of the Sunderland counts was overjoyed with the number of votes he received...A few hundred
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 07 May 2015
Labour are still in the lead with three seats declared so far.
Using crude sampling techniques based on the outcome so far, I think we can all see the picture here. Lets save all those poor folk counting ballot papers the hassle of doing so and declare Ed Miliband the new Prime Minister now!
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 07 May 2015
People are moving on from the main ones.
Everyone else is taking ages to get the results in.... -.-
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:49 pm)MrFozz wrote The TUSC dude in one of the Sunderland counts was overjoyed with the number of votes he received...A few hundred
Gary Duncan......
And it just goes to show what a mockery of an alternative the TUSC are.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 11:09 pm)aureolin wrote Gary Duncan......Who are TUSC btw. ..are they Arthur Scargills lot
And it just goes to show what a mockery of an alternative the TUSC are.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 11:10 pm)MrFozz wrote Who are TUSC btw. ..are they Arthur Scargills lot
Nope. It's a coalition of a load of trade unions and some of the socialist parties. The problem is that they're going to get whipped in every single seat, because they haven't the public support.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 07 May 2015
Interesting thoughts.
Cameron's career is over. Trust me, 323 MPs will not vote for his manifesto promises. By night's end, he will not command a maj in HoCDr Éoin Clarke
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 07 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 11:13 pm)aureolin wrote Nope. It's a coalition of a load of trade unions and some of the socialist parties. The problem is that they're going to get whipped in every single seat, because they haven't the public support.Excuse my language, but thay Gary Duncan looked a right twat taking selfies while Returning Officers was reading the result
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
I would not wanna be the Lib Dems Accountant/Bank Manager right now...Seems like there on course to lose thousands in lost deposits
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
Looks lib dems have been bent over and shafted hard...some big names lost there seats, same can be said for labour north of the border
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Kuyoyo - 08 May 2015
The policial landscape has changed overnight.....
The BBC are now predicting 325 seats for the Tories which effectively means they'll have a slender majority.
And a lot of commentators are already predicting a change in leader for both the Lim Dems and Labour.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Michael - 08 May 2015
(08 May 2015, 6:28 am)Kuyoyo wrote The policial landscape has changed overnight.....
The BBC are now predicting 325 seats for the Tories which effectively means they'll have a slender majority.
And a lot of commentators are already predicting a change in leader for both the Lim Dems and Labour.
Lib dems have lost a lot of voters, didn't expect that, also didn't expect UKIP to do well with the % of vote.ls in some area's.
I haven't really got up to date with the other area's and who won.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
(08 May 2015, 6:28 am)Kuyoyo wrote The policial landscape has changed overnight.....The BBC Forecast is now 329 to the Tories...
The BBC are now predicting 325 seats for the Tories which effectively means they'll have a slender majority.
And a lot of commentators are already predicting a change in leader for both the Lim Dems and Labour.
Now waiting for Lord Ashdown to eat his hat
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MurdnunoC - 08 May 2015
(08 May 2015, 6:28 am)Kuyoyo wrote The policial landscape has changed overnight.....
The BBC are now predicting 325 seats for the Tories which effectively means they'll have a slender majority.
And a lot of commentators are already predicting a change in leader for both the Lim Dems and Labour.
Both leaders have to go really.
The Lib Dem result is nothing short of humiliating and it shows they lost a lot of support by climbing into bed with the Conservatives. Many Lib Dem voters voiced their disapproval in 2010 and some tried to distance themselves from the coalition agreement when fighting local elections. Clegg's position is now untenable as leader.
As for Labour, well, wrong choice of leadership combined with policies which don't reflect their grassroots support.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
(08 May 2015, 7:00 am)MurdnunoC wrote Both leaders have to go really.Would David have been a better leader than Ed...dont know a great deal about it, but the general feeling seemed to be that Ed stabbed his brother in the back...
The Lib Dem result is nothing short of humiliating and it shows they lost a lot of support by climbing into bed with the Conservatives. Many Lib Dem voters voiced their disapproval in 2010 and some tried to distance themselves from the coalition agreement when fighting local elections. Clegg's position is now untenable as leader.
As for Labour, well, wrong choice of leadership combined with policies which don't reflect their grassroots support.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
Ed Knackers has lost his seat
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Adrian - 08 May 2015
If this shows anything, then it shows how complacent the Labour party have been.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
How wrong Nick Clegg was when he said and I quote 'They need to go lie in a dark room if they think they'll get majority'
Paul Nuttall must feel like a knob when he said 'I guarantee that UKIP will have more than 2 seats'
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 08 May 2015
I despair.
When the NHS is privatised and you can't afford treatment, when the national debt has continued to rise, when we are ripped off in more taxpayer sell offs (if there is owt left to sell off) and we have seen police, fire brigade and many other public bodies stripped back to their bare bones - maybe the penny will drop.
One thing is for sure, those members of the forum who haven't got a job - best get looking to make one up, before benefits are scrapped entirely.
It might be a job with very few hours, you might be on minimum wage and financially worse off than before - but there is no way these lot will let you off.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - Andreos1 - 08 May 2015
(07 May 2015, 10:29 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I don't blame the SNP for ensuring another five years of Tory rule. I disagree with the principle of tactical voting. People should vote for whichever political candidate they feel represents them the best. If Scottish voters believe the SNP will represent their interests best then so be it - even if it has the inadvertent effect of enabling another period of Tory rule. Labour (and the Lib-Dems) should have done more to appeal to the Scottish electorate. If they failed to do this, it's on them, not the SNP.
Sorry, meant to reply last night.
I have had conversations with colleagues and ex-colleagues, who live down south. They have openly admitted to being traditional lib dem supporters and live in marginal areas (not sure on the constituencies).
Rather than vote lib dem and risk the SNP having a voice via any lib lab alliance (as unlikely as that may have been), they voted tory.
One quote, from a highly educated and 'sensible' ex-colleague was: 'I voted for them. It (SNP) definitely influenced my vote, but I didn't think it would make much difference. I thought the others would have done better'.
Granted, that is only a handful of people, but thought it was an example worth sharing.
Tactical voting may not be something you agree with, but it happens.
UKIP are saying a lot of their voters, went tory - simply because they didn't want to risk a lab snp coalition.
Whether that is accurate or an example of them being upset, no idea.
The independence debate stirred up nationalism in Scotland and resentment in England.
Cameron is the only winner and has been twice over.
The SNP campaigned against austerity, yet won't change anything, other than maybe forcing through another independence referendum. They are as big as they can get and for all they may be riding on the crest of a wave, their influence, isn't going to hold much sway in Parliament.
Patriotism and hot air in Holyrood? Definitely.
Influence and change in Westminster. No way.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - idiot - 08 May 2015
I voted tatical to. Best of a bad bumch.. Labour ot tory. Well tory got it and I for one am a lot happier for it.
Balls will the NHS will be privatised so you have to pay.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
Just had a laugh at some bird on the news, doing a piece about Boris Johnson, young lass said she was there because she loved Boris...When asked who she voted...UKIP
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - S813 FVK - 08 May 2015
At least Farage kept to his word. He said all along that if he didn't win his seat, he'd resign. It was right for Clegg to go also. So many people lost their jobs and i think it was only right that he gave up his to make it fair. As for Miliband, he was an arse anyway so its probably for the better.
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - LeeCalder - 08 May 2015
Before I forget.... Congratulations to Douglas Carswell MP who becomes UKIP's first MP to be elected at a general election
RE: Politics (and other political stuff) - MrFozz - 08 May 2015
(08 May 2015, 10:22 pm)leestransportphotos wrote Before I forget.... Congratulations to Douglas Carswell MP who becomes UKIP's first MP to be elected at a general electionAnd congrats to Big Nige for not becoming an MP
Politics (and other political stuff) - LeeCalder - 08 May 2015
At least he stood by his word...