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RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 07 Jan 2014

(07 Jan 2014, 10:32 pm)Nicholas Perry wrote the x35/x36 cant interwork if you look again the x36 departs sunderland 8 minuets before the x35 arrives in sunderland

I think it is you that needs to check again, X35 will arrive at xx29 and xx59 while X36 will depart at xx07 and xx37. In the opposite direction, the X35 leaves at xx00 and xx30 while the X36 arrives at xx08 and xx38 before getting a 22 minutes layover, which means even if the X36 arrives 5-10 minutes late the X35 will depart on-time.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Michael - 07 Jan 2014

(07 Jan 2014, 10:36 pm)Kuyoyo wrote I think it is you that needs to check again, X35 will arrive at xx29 and xx59 while X36 will depart at xx07 and xx37. In the opposite direction, the X35 leaves at xx00 and xx30 while the X36 arrives at xx08 and xx38 before getting a 22 minutes layover, which means even if the X36 arrives 5-10 minutes late the X35 will depart on-time.

Will the peak time runs on the X36 not effect this, or is that why the X35 has had it times changed?


RE: Go North East - Latest - N1cholas - 07 Jan 2014

from Newcastle to sunderland the x36 times
x36 Sunderland Interchange 0656 0726 0756 0826 0900 0930 1008 1038 every 08 38
from sunderland to Hartlepool x35
x35 Sunderland Interchange Stand M 0550 0615 0648 0710 0725 0750 0808 0825 0900 0930 Every 00 30

so how can they interwork when the x36 arrives 8 minuets after the x35 departs?


RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 07 Jan 2014

(07 Jan 2014, 10:52 pm)Nicholas Perry wrote from Newcastle to sunderland the x36 times
x36 Sunderland Interchange 0656 0726 0756 0826 0900 0930 1008 1038 every 08 38
from sunderland to Hartlepool x35
x35 Sunderland Interchange Stand M 0550 0615 0648 0710 0725 0750 0808 0825 0900 0930 Every 00 30

so how can they interwork when the x36 arrives 8 minuets after the x35 departs?

As I explained, the bus arriving on the X36 will sit for 22 minutes before then going out on the X35. The whole point of the interwork sounds like being to improve the reliability of the X35.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 07 Jan 2014

(07 Jan 2014, 10:44 pm)Michael wrote Will the peak time runs on the X36 not effect this, or is that why the X35 has had it times changed?

I think the peak time runs won't affect it too much, as they seem to be something else considering there's no afternoon working from Park Lane to Enterprise Park.


RE: Go North East - Latest - N1cholas - 07 Jan 2014

ok I understand it now I have give my head a shake I see where your coming from with the 22 mins it makes sense


RE: Go North East - Latest - speedwheels22 - 08 Jan 2014

Will sum 1 tell me why there running a 27X I never see much ppl on it and second the X should be in front as X27 same with the 58X


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:04 am)speedwheels22 wrote Will sum 1 tell me why there running a 27X I never see much ppl on it and second the X should be in front as X27 same with the 58X

To me I dont see 27X/58X warranting an X as a prefix...In my opinion they are not express services and the X as a suffix in my opinion means Xtra...Whether it actually means that, I dont know, thats just my opinion alone


RE: Go North East - Latest - speedwheels22 - 08 Jan 2014

Perhaps renumbering it X27 newcastle nonstop to shields via gateshead heworth jarrow


RE: Go North East - Latest - Acky81 - 08 Jan 2014

(07 Jan 2014, 5:52 am)fozzovmurton wrote Whats what all about, the fact a loop was on Driver Training or the fact it was on Chester Road or both Wink
In Sunderland


RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:42 am)fozzovmurton wrote To me I dont see 27X/58X warranting an X as a prefix...In my opinion they are not express services and the X as a suffix in my opinion means Xtra...Whether it actually means that, I dont know, thats just my opinion alone

All the 27X does is give parts of Hebburn back their direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle that they lost when the 27 went to every 10 minutes and the 27A was dropped. The only way it is an express is the fact it omits Gateshead interchange to save time (notice that the 27X gets 6 minutes to do Newcastle-Gateshead High Street where those service operating via the Interchange get 10 minutes).


RE: Go North East - Latest - GuyParkRoyal - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:04 am)speedwheels22 wrote Will sum 1 tell me why there running a 27X I never see much ppl on it and second the X should be in front as X27 same with the 58X

The X is in front of 27 because there is already a 27X service albeit a service that GNE run once a year during The Great North Run. The purpose of the X27 is to cover a large part of Hebburn along Victoria Road West that was not served by a regular bus service. I agree that loadings are poor which is disappointing as this is a good service and I have found it reliable and on time.
The 27X that works during the Great North Run follows the 27 route from South Shields to Hebburn Clock PH then direct on Victoria Road to Hebburn College then back to 27 route.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Andreos1 - 08 Jan 2014

Spotted a GNE van parked on Lambton Lane in Fencehouses, whilst the passenger (in official GNE clothing) was inspecting the timetable earlier.

Could be nothing, could be something...

Would have thought they would have had the key app on their phone or access to timetables in the office though... Big Grin

The Fencehouses Popular Party are suspicious of outsiders doing strange/unexplained things at bus stops - only members of the FPP or residents of Fencehouses are allowed to do strange/unexplained things at bus stops...

Although relevant to all operators, will put it on here seeing as though they set the standard in the region - https://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=113&ea.campaign.id=24585 The Guide Dogs Association have a campaign going to raise debate in Parliament, following the Government failing to put into place recommendations from the Transport Select Comittee last month


RE: Go North East - Latest - cbma06 - 08 Jan 2014

ive been looking at the new X35 andX36 timetable online, and it doesn't have the route display along the top at the side of the bus, its just going to be just black


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 11:16 am)andreos1 wrote Spotted a GNE van parked on Lambton Lane in Fencehouses, whilst the passenger (in official GNE clothing) was inspecting the timetable earlier.

Could be nothing, could be something...

Would have thought they would have had the key app on their phone or access to timetables in the office though... Big Grin

The Fencehouses Popular Party are suspicious of outsiders doing strange/unexplained things at bus stops - only members of the FPP or residents of Fencehouses are allowed to do strange/unexplained things at bus stops...

Although relevant to all operators, will put it on here seeing as though they set the standard in the region - https://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=113&ea.campaign.id=24585 The Guide Dogs Association have a campaign going to raise debate in Parliament, following the Government failing to put into place recommendations from the Transport Select Comittee last month

I always thought the AVSP(Avenue Vivian Seperatist Party) were the suspicious ones in that Area


RE: Go North East - Latest - Andreos1 - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 11:30 am)fozzovmurton wrote I always thought the AVSP(Avenue Vivian Seperatist Party) were the suspicious ones in that Area

They used to be ok until they became solely reliant on the 71 to get them anywhere - like the service, it just went downhill from there on in...


RE: Go North East - Latest - speedwheels22 - 08 Jan 2014

Think gne r getting lazy and sum of the brands r going down hill


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 11:43 am)andreos1 wrote They used to be ok until they became solely reliant on the 71 to get them anywhere - like the service, it just went downhill from there on in...

Sounds like the Popular Front For The Liberation of Cornwall Estate in Murton...Lost the 65 and the movement went to shit lmfao Big Grin


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:25 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Think gne r getting lazy and sum of the brands r going down hill

Would you expand on that thought fella, I personally think GNE should ditch branding completely


RE: Go North East - Latest - Tom - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 11:20 am)cbma06 wrote ive been looking at the new X35 andX36 timetable online, and it doesn't have the route display along the top at the side of the bus, its just going to be just black

As it's both the X35/X36 under the ''Fast Cats'' brand, I'd imagine it will be plain black, yes.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Greg in Weardale - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:29 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Would you expand on that thought fella, I personally think GNE should ditch branding completely

The branding is the one thing which makes GNE special and stand out from the others - they need to do something to stand out as their services are deteriorating (dare I mention X3 again!!!). The one good thing about the Sunderland changes is that the X36 is going to be branded - the rest of the new routes are going to boring almost plain red, even more drab now the "northern" name seems to have been dropped, another negative move. Most branding is well designed and well-liked by everyone I know, enthusiasts and ordinary passengers alike. I think ALL routes/groups of routes should be branded, with say one spare branded vehicle for each five to cover routine maintenance, with a few red vehicles - in a more exciting Northern (or if you must, GNE) general livery - to cover other
VOR. Then much more effort should be made to avoid branded buses on the wrong routes. If all buses were going to be the dull red livery, you might as well have the depressing Nexus red and grey with their Quality Contract - although I hate that concept, I'm sure Nexus wouldn't have "designed" the new X3 timetable .


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 4:15 pm)Greg in Weardale wrote The branding is the one thing which makes GNE special and stand out from the others - they need to do something to stand out as their services are deteriorating (dare I mention X3 again!!!). The one good thing about the Sunderland changes is that the X36 is going to be branded - the rest of the new routes are going to boring almost plain red, even more drab now the "northern" name seems to have been dropped, another negative move. Most branding is well designed and well-liked by everyone I know, enthusiasts and ordinary passengers alike. I think ALL routes/groups of routes should be branded, with say one spare branded vehicle for each five to cover routine maintenance, with a few red vehicles - in a more exciting Northern (or if you must, GNE) general livery - to cover other
VOR. Then much more effort should be made to avoid branded buses on the wrong routes. If all buses were going to be the dull red livery, you might as well have the depressing Nexus red and grey with their Quality Contract - although I hate that concept, I'm sure Nexus wouldn't have "designed" the new X3 timetable .

Lol, you wouldn't surely slam the X3 would you, your borderline obsessive about it...Am kidding with ya mate Tongue.

Out of interest, without sounding thick, what does VOR stand for(Vehicle Off Road perhaps)...

As for branding, I will never be a supporter of it, dont know why, I just never will, and dont see why a standard livery cannot be used across the whole fleet, Arriva amd Stagecoach dont use mass branding...

If GNE insists on it, then they should keep it on it's more lucrative routes, something like Superliner or Go Xpress from days gone by, brand the sucessful Express Services i.e X1 and X9 and 10

As for the X36, I think it should be fully merged into X35 and newly branded the Barbary Coastliner in honour of our Simian Strangler friends in Hartlepool...Barbary being a species of Monkey and there being a part of Sunderland called the Barbary Coast Big Grin, jk...


RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 08 Jan 2014

One of these lovelies posted through my door at 8am this morning Tongue
Terrible pic from phone attached...!

On a related note, 5203 was involved in a spot of bother today - see photo here.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Andreos1 - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 12:26 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Sounds like the Popular Front For The Liberation of Cornwall Estate in Murton...Lost the 65 and the movement went to shit lmfao Big Grin

It must be noted the FPP are the political arm of the FPF (Fencehouses Popular Front), with the FPF being more militant.

A truce has been organised, giving bus company employees living in the village, immunity from attack, after one wedgie too many.
One driver who did not want to be named, had to have his Calvin Kleins surgically removed at Sunderland Royal Hospital before Christmas.
He had to get a taxi, with there not being a bus there from the village.
Drivers are reported to be fed up of the wedgies and having to sneak to/from work under the cover of darkness (and a taxi ride home/to work).

The local mothers group have organised a fund raising day, which involves a street performance in the village on shrove tuesday.
Teaming up with a prominant modern art legend, they are currently practicing the performance under the working title of 'useless tossers'.

Not to be outdone, local residents are also performing a monthly act in line with the lunar cycle.
Passing buses will be treated to homeowners standing in their front rooms - baring their bottoms.

We have sympathisers across the region, including TB from the Harlow Green/Allerdene area, who will continue to plague the GNE fb page like a bad cough.

Our Peterlee representative will continue to dominate and disrupt the GNE twitter feed, complaining as much as he can about the x9, x10, x35 and any other bus he fancies.

Comrades from Chopwell will also complain on a regular basis about the 47.

In the meantime, our Russian operative who goes under the nickname 'meerkat man' will continue with their covert work, liking anything and everything on the GNE fb page, in order to gain access to GNE Towers.

Local operatives will continue to pose as regular passengers, causing as much disruption as possible, such as:

* Passengers posing as OAP's will feign ignorance with the new ticket machines.

* Passengers will regularly press the bell, when having no intention of getting off.

* Metro newspapers will be littered around the bus

* Passengers wanting a relaxing ride and a nap, will be stopped from doing so, by the omni-present empty Fanta bottle, which we will leave to rattle around the bus floor.

As the FPF spokesperson, I often appear on radio and TV, although my voice is dubbed over and voiced by an actor, due to political restrictions.
I appeared on BBC Radio Bournmoor just this morning on the Angie and Jimmy show.


RE: Go North East - Latest - Michael - 08 Jan 2014

Anyone got a pic of the new Cobalt Clipper brand on the B9's, just heard the first few have being done.

Anymore B9's out?


Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - MrFozz - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 5:21 pm)andreos1 wrote It must be noted the FPP are the political arm of the FPF (Fencehouses Popular Front), with the FPF being more militant.

A truce has been organised, giving bus company employees living in the village, immunity from attack, after one wedgie too many.
One driver who did not want to be named, had to have his Calvin Kleins surgically removed at Sunderland Royal Hospital before Christmas.
He had to get a taxi, with there not being a bus there from the village.
Drivers are reported to be fed up of the wedgies and having to sneak to/from work under the cover of darkness (and a taxi ride home/to work).

The local mothers group have organised a fund raising day, which involves a street performance in the village on shrove tuesday.
Teaming up with a prominant modern art legend, they are currently practicing the performance under the working title of 'useless tossers'.

Not to be outdone, local residents are also performing a monthly act in line with the lunar cycle.
Passing buses will be treated to homeowners standing in their front rooms - baring their bottoms.

We have sympathisers across the region, including TB from the Harlow Green/Allerdene area, who will continue to plague the GNE fb page like a bad cough.

Our Peterlee representative will continue to dominate and disrupt the GNE twitter feed, complaining as much as he can about the x9, x10, x35 and any other bus he fancies.

Comrades from Chopwell will also complain on a regular basis about the 47.

In the meantime, our Russian operative who goes under the nickname 'meerkat man' will continue with their covert work, liking anything and everything on the GNE fb page, in order to gain access to GNE Towers.

Local operatives will continue to pose as regular passengers, causing as much disruption as possible, such as:

* Passengers posing as OAP's will feign ignorance with the new ticket machines.

* Passengers will regularly press the bell, when having no intention of getting off.

* Metro newspapers will be littered around the bus

* Passengers wanting a relaxing ride and a nap, will be stopped from doing so, by the omni-present empty Fanta bottle, which we will leave to rattle around the bus floor.

As the FPF spokesperson, I often appear on radio and TV, although my voice is dubbed over and voiced by an actor, due to political restrictions.
I appeared on BBC Radio Bournmoor just this morning on the Angie and Jimmy show.

The Y(Yoof)FPP is going strong I see...

You make me laugh A1, I will have to act as an intermediary between the FPP and PFLCE to bring about A1-MF Non-Agression Pact, we could do with some paramilitary training in how to do the wedgies, atomic wedgies if at all possible...

You make me laugh sometimes A1...

Lets back on topic lmao


RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 08 Jan 2014

Dear Daniel Graham,

A few months ago we wrote to you, inviting you to take part in Go North East’s first Passenger Panel Survey. We were delighted by the level of interest and would like to thank everyone who took the time to tell us about tickets purchased and reasons for doing so. The survey flagged a number of areas for development, which Go North East is currently considering.

We’d now like to invite you to take part in the second survey, which is about the ‘on-board experience’. We’d like to know what on-board features are important to you and to understand what areas you think Go North East should be investing in. By taking part, you will influence decisions about the bus fleet.

The survey is short – it will only take 5 minutes to complete – and, to thank you for your time, you will be entered into a prize draw to win Amazon vouchers worth £50 on completion of the survey.

To take part in the survey, please click here

Participation is, of course, voluntary and it is also possible to opt out of the Passenger Panel at any time, using the link at the bottom of this email.

All information you provide when completing Passenger Panel Surveys will be confidential and Go North East will not know that you are a Panel member. This is because we work to the Market Research Society Code of Conduct, an industry framework which ensures that your responses are kept confidential and that your anonymity is protected.

Best wishes,

Bluegrass Research on behalf of Go North East

Bluegrass Research Limited


Some interesting questions in this one in regards to the effectiveness of branding and new features such as Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements etc.

Will be interesting to see what action, if anything, will be taken as a result of the ticketing/pricing survey.


RE: Go North East - Latest - gtom - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 5:59 pm)Dan wrote Some interesting questions in this one in regards to the effectiveness of branding and new features such as Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements etc.

Will be interesting to see what action, if anything, will be taken as a result of the ticketing/pricing survey.

We all got that at work too.

I felt less than special


RE: Go North East - Latest - Michael - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 5:59 pm)Dan wrote Some interesting questions in this one in regards to the effectiveness of branding and new features such as Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements etc.

Will be interesting to see what action, if anything, will be taken as a result of the ticketing/pricing survey.

I didn't get on‌e =(


RE: Go North East - Latest - BJ10VUS - 08 Jan 2014

(08 Jan 2014, 1:14 am)Kuyoyo wrote All the 27X does is give parts of Hebburn back their direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle that they lost when the 27 went to every 10 minutes and the 27A was dropped. The only way it is an express is the fact it omits Gateshead interchange to save time (notice that the 27X gets 6 minutes to do Newcastle-Gateshead High Street where those service operating via the Interchange get 10 minutes).

It also doesn't serve any stops on Sunderland Road, as well as running limited stop between Heworth and Hebburn College calling at Pelaw shops only.