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RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 31 May 2016

(29 May 2016, 6:19 pm)peter wrote Any news on these??

(30 May 2016, 8:45 pm)dannygee wrote Any news dan on the contracts?

Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan wrote Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael wrote GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - biglugs@yahoo.com - 31 May 2016

Will the 333 be going up for tender


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:54 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Will the 333 be going up for tender

Yes - I think Pheonix have been awarded with it again.

Go North East has lost the Sunday 32/A services and I think Phoenix may have picked these up too. Arriva has also lost the 554 to Go North East.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan wrote Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Cheers for sharing Smile
Do you know about the 17 yet?


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:24 pm)Dan wrote Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!

That's good.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dannygee - 31 May 2016

Which depots will be operating these?


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 5:00 pm)dannygee wrote Which depots will be operating these?

At a guess:


Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Riverside 
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Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Riverside

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Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Deptford 

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Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Percy Main


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael wrote GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

The long 38 (in theory), would have worked well with the 168. Both terminate about a mile from each other the way the roads work (basically opposite sides of the dual carriageway as the crow flies).


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - biglugs@yahoo.com - 31 May 2016

If the compass 8x is up for tender id hate to see a operator alike kingsleys or go north east as the volkswagen struggles in some streets upon south hylton.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 7:42 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote If the compass 8x is up for tender id hate to see a operator alike kingsleys or go north east as the volkswagen struggles in some streets upon south hylton.

Same for Stagecoach, however i would like to see them run it due to them running the 8 during the day.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 7:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote The long 38 (in theory), would have worked well with the 168. Both terminate about a mile from each other the way the roads work (basically opposite sides of the dual carriageway as the crow flies).

Ye, i was thinking of another service too but now i can't think haha


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - biglugs@yahoo.com - 31 May 2016

(31 May 2016, 7:46 pm)Michael wrote Same for Stagecoach, however i would like to see them run it due to them running the 8 during the day.

Theyd have to get solos from Cumbria to run that service


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Ambassador - 31 May 2016

Was the 33/33A up for tender separately last time? Continually surprised this is renewed , it carries thin air 99% of the time.

Guessing it's politics of the well heeled variety keeping this one going


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 02 Jun 2016

(31 May 2016, 9:56 pm)Ambassador wrote Was the 33/33A up for tender separately last time? Continually surprised this is renewed , it carries thin air 99% of the time.

Guessing it's politics of the well heeled variety keeping this one going

Its like most NEXUS buses, the 135/136 is the same in Sunderland.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 7:22 am)Michael wrote Its like most NEXUS buses, the 135/136 is the same in Sunderland.

Gerra way man, they have been a roaring success story.

Look at how many of the services which were supported by Nexus, that are now commercially viable services.

The list just keeps on growing Wink


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 7:49 am)Andreos1 wrote Gerra way man, they have been a roaring success story.

Look at how many of the services which were supported by Nexus, that are now commercially viable services.

The list just keeps on growing Wink

Tongue, true but a lot of those services they fund still carry fresh air.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - NK53 TKT - 02 Jun 2016

(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan wrote Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches
Very, very good, the 13 is certainly a challenging route due to the tiny roads it goes down, I assume the three buses freed up by the loss of Whitley Bay will go for the 13 and 168, while two Versa size buses will be needed for the 33


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - biglugs@yahoo.com - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 9:31 am)NK53 TKT wrote Very, very good, the 13 is certainly a challenging route due to the tiny roads it goes down, I assume the three buses freed up by the loss of Whitley Bay will go for the 13 and 168, while two Versa size buses will be needed for the 33

Riverside should send 557 as it fits the 168 contract and keep a solo for the asda


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - NK53 TKT - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 9:55 am)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Riverside should send 557 as it fits the 168 contract and keep a solo for the asda

I will reveal my masterplan in the 'Service Suggestions' thread after all the streetlites are in service


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 02 Jun 2016

The contract for the Sunderland Connect 700/701 services is up for renewal this year.

Sunderland City Council will provide 3 low-carbon hybrid vehicles in a dedicated livery to operate this contract. The use of these vehicles will be subject to a separate agreement between the successful contractor and Sunderland City Council.
 
The details of vehicles to be provided are as follows:-
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK61 EFY (Capacity 49)
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK61 EGY (Capacity 49)
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK62 DWY (Capacity 48)
 
It should be noted that it is extremely likely that these vehicles will need to be re-painted during the term of this contract. 

The contract will require the successful bidder to operate a term-time timetable (17th September 2016 until 7th July 2017) and a separate summer timetable (8th July 2017 to 2nd September 2017).


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Adrian - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 5:44 pm)Dan wrote The contract for the Sunderland Connect 700/701 services is up for renewal this year.

I take it the current contract expires at the end of this Summer's season then?


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 5:50 pm)Adrian wrote I take it the current contract expires at the end of this Summer's season then?

Yes - the new contract commences from 17th September 2016, and lasts until 2nd September 2017.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 5:44 pm)Dan wrote The contract for the Sunderland Connect 700/701 services is up for renewal this year.

Sunderland City Council will provide 3 low-carbon hybrid vehicles in a dedicated livery to operate this contract. The use of these vehicles will be subject to a separate agreement between the successful contractor and Sunderland City Council.
 
The details of vehicles to be provided are as follows:-
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK61 EFY (Capacity 49)
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK61 EGY (Capacity 49)
  • Optare Solo SR Hybrid – NK62 DWY (Capacity 48)
 
It should be noted that it is extremely likely that these vehicles will need to be re-painted during the term of this contract. 

The contract will require the successful bidder to operate a term-time timetable (17th September 2016 until 7th July 2017) and a separate summer timetable (8th July 2017 to 2nd September 2017).


Oo interesting, i thought GNE got it for 5 years, looks like i was wrong.

GNE got it from the 4th September 2016 according to VOSA.....so it looks like it will last for 13 days before a new operator takes over, if GNE don't get it.


PB0002400/450 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA

Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange given service number 700/701 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 02 Jun 2016

Further tenders released by Nexus today:


Service 40 (Wallsend - High Farm - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park - Howdon - Holy Cross - Wallsend)
Service 41 (Wallsend - Holy Cross - Howdon - Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend)
Contract Period: 04/09/2016 to 02/09/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily evening & Sunday daytime
3x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.


Service 11 (Wallsend - North Shields - North Tyneside General Hospital - Whitley Bay)
Service 42 (Cramlington/Benton ASDA - Wallsend)
Contract Period: 04/09/2016 to 02/09/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily evening & Sunday daytime
6x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.


Both of these contracts supplement the main daytime Go North East operation of services 17A, 40/41 and 80 - the new numbers and routes coinciding with planned service changes.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 6:01 pm)Michael wrote Oo interesting, i thought GNE got it for 5 years, looks like i was wrong.

GNE got it from the 4th September 2016 according to VOSA.....so it looks like it will last for 13 days before a new operator takes over, if GNE don't get it.

PB0002400/450 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA

Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange given service number 700/701 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

Yes - from 4th September to 16th September 2016.

That amendment is for the service to return to its term time route (Clanny House - St Peters).


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 6:03 pm)Dan wrote Yes - from 4th September to 16th September 2016.

That amendment is for the service to return to its term time route (Clanny House - St Peters).

I wish they would extend the summer service down to Seaburn.


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 02 Jun 2016

(02 Jun 2016, 6:02 pm)Dan wrote Further tenders released by Nexus today:


Service 40 (Wallsend - High Farm - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park - Howdon - Holy Cross - Wallsend)
Service 41 (Wallsend - Holy Cross - Howdon - Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend)
Contract Period: 04/09/2016 to 02/09/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily evening & Sunday daytime
3x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.


Service 11 (Wallsend - North Shields - North Tyneside General Hospital - Whitley Bay)
Service 42 (Cramlington/Benton ASDA - Wallsend)
Contract Period: 04/09/2016 to 02/09/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily evening & Sunday daytime
6x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.


Both of these contracts supplement the main daytime Go North East operation of services 17A, 40/41 and 80 - the new numbers and routes coinciding with planned service changes.

Thanks for the info Dan, =)


RE: Tender Discussion Thread - MurdnunoC - 02 Jun 2016

Out of interest, which operator has gained the contract for services 84/84A between West Denton, Newcastle, Benwell and Metrocentre?