(28 Jul 2024, 3:59 pm)davao123 wrote I'd also stick the Optare Tempos in that list as well, Awful things, worst things Yorkshire has ever bought new anyway. Didn't know why they didn't buy Pulsars instead. You lot up in the north east must have hated the tempos so much we got lumbered back with them,about a year later!

(28 Jul 2024, 4:02 pm)Ryland wrote In fairness the tempos only went to Durham so no other depot saw use of them

(28 Jul 2024, 4:02 pm)Ryland wrote In fairness the tempos only went to Durham so no other depot saw use of them

(28 Jul 2024, 1:29 pm)Storx wrote The Temsa's are up there with the Prestiges and Ikarus (these are the worst) in terms of good vehicles imo.

(28 Jul 2024, 5:10 pm)morritt89 wrote Still having nightmares from those Tempos. Hateful machines to drive (when they actually worked). 

As for the Citaro's, I've only ever driven the GNE examples and they were equally hateful (better steering lock though) - the Pulsar is far superior (and probably more reliable too and for the accountants, probably better on fuel). Don't Citaros and Tempos use the same engine?

With regards to the 57 plate DB250's, haven't other Arriva divisions had more use out of theirs than the North East?

(28 Jul 2024, 6:00 pm)Jimmi wrote Some of the southern divisions got longer out of theirs, Arriva Kent & Surrey just withdrew the last one standing within the group a few weeks back (6238 / YJ57BKE) and had some examples from around 2002 in use around Luton until fairly recently. Yorkshire didn't seem to do much better than us with their 06 plate examples, bowing out shortly after ours did, although got a while out of a 52 plate example.

Think it may be the same engine as a Citaro in the Tempos, or at very least they're Merc engines. The bottom part of Bishop Auckland Bus Station was likely another awkward one with the tight steering lock.

(28 Jul 2024, 4:45 pm)PH - BQA wrote NE wise, the 57-plate DB250s have to go down as one of the worst purchases. 

Money pits from the start, reportedly they all had new gearboxes within the first few years. All were withdrawn from service after, at most, 13 years with 7453 only lasting 11 and a bit - and they were replaced by ex-London B7TLs which were around 6 years older. The E400s purchased at the same time are still going, 3 years after 7455 finally gave up.

Of course they were great on their day, but had huge reliability issues and cost a bomb to keep going.

(31 Jul 2024, 10:53 am)Ryland wrote 1572 tracking on the 62

(01 Aug 2024, 2:32 pm)davao123 wrote 4712 broke down at Middlesborough on Monday Morning it got towed by Alpha

(01 Aug 2024, 2:43 pm)davao123 wrote What was the deal with Arriva buying these in the first place? Just struggle to understand why didn't order Pulsars like most of Arriva did at the time.

(03 Aug 2024, 8:54 am)Mark66t wrote Whitby working

No 8.34 x4

No 9.36 x93 Scarborough

Not the best start for whitby

(03 Aug 2024, 2:30 pm)Bus Lad Roy wrote Just saw on North Yorkshire weather updates page that an Arriva solo has left the road between Egton and Grosmont.   Driver and passengers are safe.

(03 Aug 2024, 2:30 pm)Bus Lad Roy wrote Just saw on North Yorkshire weather updates page that an Arriva solo has left the road between Egton and Grosmont.   Driver and passengers are safe.

(03 Aug 2024, 3:34 pm)Storx wrote https://www.facebook.com/NorthYorkshireWeatherUpdates/posts/pfbid02Eba4DtY6FyJDYCAKQceCKxymNKTMHGX6o2YivYQmzN5fZA9GpSWAq94GPxPb5Wjil

Quite a bad one that mind, that hasn't gone through there at 10 mph. Lucky no-one was hurt.

(03 Aug 2024, 4:37 pm)Jimmi wrote 2870 was the bus involved.

1427 was swapped off the X4 for 4707 at Redcar, with 1427 sent light to Whitby, so 2866 could be swapped off the 95 to operate the 1715 96 to Lealholmside (2870 incident occurred on the 1310 trip to Whitby).

Worse still, a Coastliner bus broke down in Sleights

(04 Aug 2024, 10:02 am)Ryland wrote Random question

But why does redcar have 1556. The past 2 weekends it's not been used on the m4.  Near enough most of the fleet is on the road.
Part from
1420 which hasn't tracked since 28/7
1426 18/7
1445 2/8 which appears to of broken down in the x94

And now with 2870 off the road

(04 Aug 2024, 5:38 pm)Mike_98 wrote 2870 I can't see returning. Not after seeing the state it's in. I imagine another Solo will get transferred to Whitby. I imagine the Redcar one 2857 will go to Whitby and Darlo's last one 2841 will head to Redcar. That's the only logical replacements unless Northumbria can spare one.

(04 Aug 2024, 6:54 pm)Storx wrote The Solo's need replacing ideally, I'm sure there has to be something in the pipeline. I know someone in the past has mentioned in the past that there's newer buses in the plan for the 57/57A at Ashington so I assume these are similar.

Obviously, this is wild speculation, but there's currently 3 WF Streetlite's doing absolutely nothing in Hemel Hempstead where the depot has recently closed, these should be ideal to sort out the Whitby Solo's if they could get their hands on them some how.

Similar to SLS26-30 in London being ideal for the 57/57A at Ashington which would kill off all the Solo's bar the 3 short examples for the 434.

Not that Streetlite's are any good mind but the Solo's really are that bad.

(04 Aug 2024, 7:29 pm)Ryland wrote However a dart (1759) has previously been used on the now 96 route. So it probably doesn't need to be a front wheel drive bus on it. 

Agreed that the solos do need replacing. Granted not many routes in the north east need minibuses but say if Redcar not like 6. Then the possibility of creating a new town in redcar or whitby would be ideal. Connecting the villages that only get one bus an hour

(04 Aug 2024, 8:05 pm)Storx wrote Aye possibly like, problem is, can't see it being a route which would get brand new buses. It's just a low used subsidised service. There's not many minibuses in the Arriva fleet (nationwide) now really, bar the stuff I mentioned there. It's always getting displaced stuff but obviously the displaced buses have ran out in the North East since Blyth, Jesmond and Durham have become minibus free.

Don't really expect them to come though, probably just send 2857 to Whitby and then push one of the Pulsars in reserve to Redcar. Don't believe they actually need 2857 for anything.

Speaking of Solo's seen 2853 has broken down again today at Ashington. They urgently need to go the 59 Plates, absolutely shot to bits, they're embarrassing at this stage.

(04 Aug 2024, 8:09 pm)Ryland wrote 2863 is somewhere st the moment. Not sure whether it's in whitby depot parked up or waiting to be fixed at Redcar. 

2857 a flying machine
2866 abit sluggish 

I think they may just use a random full size bus on the 95 till things are sorted. Could just use a temsa as purely for the 95 and keep the solo for the 96