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RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 17 Apr 2016
One of the King's Lynn E200MMC on Delivery
![[Image: 25845192933_5c8791ece3_c.jpg]](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1584/25845192933_5c8791ece3_c.jpg)
SN16ORC by MOD571P, on Flickr
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - L469 YVK - 17 Apr 2016
(17 Apr 2016, 8:28 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Stagecoach have a long standing partnership with Voith so I doubt any ZFs will be in the Integral orders.
ZFs work better with the Cummins ISBe compared to Voiths though.
Got to bear in mind that whilst Stagecoach have a good partnership with Voith, then unless Scania clean up their act and tailor the needs of the new N250UD to Stagecoach, then a ZF Gearbox coupled with a Cummins ISBe engine would be better suited to the interurban type of work that a Scania would traditionally be used for and therefore, Voith wouldn't lose out on any trade as the ADL E400s with the Scania chassis / engine already have ZF Ecomat (Ecolife MMC onwards) gearboxes fitted.
Voith gearboxes are more suited to being s**t of the mark around towns and cities whereas the ZF Gearbox is desgined to give a more smooth and continuous power delivery.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 18 Apr 2016
The last of the 'Coasthopper' E200MMCs at Falkirk
![[Image: 25906467673_3635fb7d05_c.jpg]](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1534/25906467673_3635fb7d05_c.jpg)
ald263 by Gordon Scott, on FlickrAs you can see, it looks like all new vehicles will be delivered with the high-back Lazzerini Pratico 3840 seating.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Ebs - 20 Apr 2016
(18 Apr 2016, 9:43 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The last of the 'Coasthopper' E200MMCs at Falkirk
As you can see, it looks like all new vehicles will be delivered with the high-back Lazzerini Pratico 3840 seating.
If this is indeed the last one, it hasn't left Falkirk yet, as one in this livery was still there this evening, albeit it did look like it was getting ready to depart.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Ebs - 20 Apr 2016
At Alexander Dennis, Falkirk this evening were a number of Stagecoach E400MMCs, one of which was:
SN16OMY
Given the reported registrations so far, i assume this is one of the last for Glasgow?
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Michael - 24 Apr 2016
As mentioned in the Stagecoach Latest thread - April 2016:
mrnuts comment: I'd have a guess that the decision to transfer it will be because of the new buses that are expected for Walkergate and would've been a bus that was transferred away if it had returned.
http://www.northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=1755&page=6
It seems Walkergate are expected to get new buses with this order.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Andreos1 - 24 Apr 2016
It appears Leamington Spa have some TfL deckers in the yard.
No idea if these are staying put and replacing step entrance deckers or are for something/somewhere else.
I am guessing they have been released from London due to arrivals down there.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Darryl1976 - 24 Apr 2016
(24 Apr 2016, 7:08 pm)Andreos1 wrote It appears Leamington Spa have some TfL deckers in the yard.
No idea if these are staying put and replacing step entrance deckers or are for something/somewhere else.
I am guessing they have been released from London due to arrivals down there.
Are they examples of the ones that Stagecoach have been purchasing via Ensign for spares? Other ones have appeared in Portsmouth and in Rugby.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Andreos1 - 24 Apr 2016
(24 Apr 2016, 7:14 pm)Darryl1976 wrote Are they examples of the ones that Stagecoach have been purchasing via Ensign for spares? Other ones have appeared in Portsmouth and in Rugby.
No idea.
Saw them from the train window and was unable to get reg details or fleet numbers unfortunately.
I noted 2 or 3.
Some were parked backing on to the tracks and there was at least one inside the depot buildings.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 25 Apr 2016
The 2016 Stagecoach Bus Fleetbook has been released to certain people, and this has been posted on 'RailUK Forum'
10511 - 10525 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Glasgow.
10526 - 10533 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Aberdeen.
10534 - 10551 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Gillmoss.
10552 - 10563 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Kendal.
10564 - 10577 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Gillmoss.
10578 - 10630 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Stockport.
10631 - 10654 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Walkergate.
10655 - 10663 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Barnsley.
10664 - 10666 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Worksop.
10667 - 10687 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
10688 - 10697 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Exeter.
10698 - 10700 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Winchester.
10701 - 10725 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Folkestone.
10726 - 10733 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Leamington.
10734 - 10748 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Hull.
10749 - 10760 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Chester?
10761 - 10778 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Aldershot.
10779 - 10788 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
All the above are 10.9m Euro 6 variants.
12364 - 12401 ADL Enviro 400H MMC for Plumstead.
26041 - 26049 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Winchester.
26050 - 26062 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Chester.
26063 - 26080 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Slatyford.
26081 - 26087 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Chesterfield.
26088 - 26111 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Porth.
All the above are 11.9m variants.
36609 - 36621 ADL Enviro 200 MMC 10.5m for Bromley.
37431 - 37439 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Norfolk Green.
37440 - 37444 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Rock Ferry.
All the above are 10.9m variants.
44001 - 44030 Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45 for ?
48031 - 48036 Optare Solo M990 SL for Norfolk Green.
54277 - 54283 Volvo B11R 15m for Rugby.
54284 Volvo B11R 13.8m for East Scotland.
54331 - 54333 Volvo B11R 15m for East Scotland.
54334 - 54441 Volvo B11R 15m for West Scotland.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 25 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:19 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The 2016 Stagecoach Bus Fleetbook has been released to certain people, and this has been posted on 'RailUK Forum'
10511 - 10525 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Glasgow.
10526 - 10533 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Aberdeen.
10534 - 10551 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Gillmoss.
10552 - 10563 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Kendal.
10564 - 10577 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Gillmoss.
10578 - 10630 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Stockport.
10631 - 10654 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Walkergate.
10655 - 10663 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Barnsley.
10664 - 10666 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Worksop.
10667 - 10687 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
10688 - 10697 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Exeter.
10698 - 10700 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Winchester.
10701 - 10725 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Folkestone.
10726 - 10733 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Leamington.
10734 - 10748 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Hull.
10749 - 10760 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Chester?
10761 - 10778 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Aldershot.
10779 - 10788 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
All the above are 10.9m Euro 6 variants.
12364 - 12401 ADL Enviro 400H MMC for Plumstead.
26041 - 26049 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Winchester.
26050 - 26062 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Chester.
26063 - 26080 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Slatyford.
26081 - 26087 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Chesterfield.
26088 - 26111 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Porth.
All the above are 11.9m variants.
36609 - 36621 ADL Enviro 200 MMC 10.5m for Bromley.
37431 - 37439 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Norfolk Green.
37440 - 37444 ADL Enviro 200 MMC for Rock Ferry.
All the above are 10.9m variants.
44001 - 44030 Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45 for ?
48031 - 48036 Optare Solo M990 SL for Norfolk Green.
54277 - 54283 Volvo B11R 15m for Rugby.
54284 Volvo B11R 13.8m for East Scotland.
54331 - 54333 Volvo B11R 15m for East Scotland.
54334 - 54441 Volvo B11R 15m for West Scotland.
I think that totals 34 new vehicles to be split between Slatyford and Walkergate, I can see the 03/53 MANs making a exit this year then.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tom - 25 Apr 2016
Good to see new buses for the Newcastle depots! Also I think the Lakes livery will look fantastic on the E400 MMCs if they are at Kendal for the 555, will be interesting to see how they cope though.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 25 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:26 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote I think that totals 34 new vehicles to be split between Slatyford and Walkergate, I can see the 03/53 MANs making a exit this year then.
24 for Walkergate, 18 for Slatyford. I think you'll find that totals 42. As for all the 03/53 MANs leaving, I think there could be some surprising fleet re allocations if current rumours are true.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 25 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:32 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 24 for Walkergate, 18 for Slatyford. I think you'll find that totals 42. As for all the 03/53 MANs leaving, I think there could be some surprising fleet re allocations if current rumours are true.
Sorry for my very poor maths
I'm looking forward to see what happens to the MANs.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - northern156 - 25 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:19 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 10552 - 10563 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Kendal.
I believe these are for the 555 Keswick to Lancaster; thus displacing several Scania E400s.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Mark Watson - 25 Apr 2016
Hi All
A few errors again from BBP
10631-64 split between WK and SY
10701-25 split between Folkstone and Hastings
10749-60 Gold for Cheltenham
12365-401 for London rte 53 Plumstead
26111 is for Banbury
HTH
Mark
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Mark Watson - 25 Apr 2016
Sorry guys
10631-54 not 64
Dumpy finger syndrome.
M
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Tamesider - 26 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 9:33 pm)Mark Watson wrote Hi All
A few errors again from BBP
10631-64 split between WK and SY
10701-25 split between Folkstone and Hastings
10749-60 Gold for Cheltenham
12365-401 for London rte 53 Plumstead
26111 is for Banbury
HTH
Mark
I very much doubt Stockport will receive 53 new 'deckers either. They don't have that many diesels to replace and virtually all single-deck investment has been concentrated there. Besides, recent trends have been to reduce (commercial) services in the Stockport area
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Michael - 26 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:32 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 24 for Walkergate, 18 for Slatyford. I think you'll find that totals 42. As for all the 03/53 MANs leaving, I think there could be some surprising fleet re allocations if current rumours are true.
Care to share these rumours?
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - markydh - 26 Apr 2016
If the MMCs are split between Walkergate and Slatyford, that suggests 62/63 to me...
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Ambassador - 26 Apr 2016
Any hope of anything newer....this century perhaps for Citty Sightseeing
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - conzog - 26 Apr 2016
(25 Apr 2016, 7:19 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 10749 - 10760 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Chester?
10761 - 10778 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Aldershot.
10779 - 10788 ADL Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
Am I right in thinking that these are the 40 'Gold' branded E400 MMCs?
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 26 Apr 2016
(26 Apr 2016, 10:35 pm)Ambassador wrote Any hope of anything newer....this century perhaps for Citty Sightseeing
Well, they aren't going to order brand new stock for it. As it is a franchise, we will see what happens (but as for your post elsewhere, I can't honestly see anyone taking it over if Stagecoach drop it).
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - South Tyne Lad - 28 Apr 2016
(18 Apr 2016, 9:43 pm)Kuyoyo wrote The last of the 'Coasthopper' E200MMCs at Falkirk
As you can see, it looks like all new vehicles will be delivered with the high-back Lazzerini Pratico 3840 seating.
(20 Apr 2016, 7:53 pm)Ebs wrote If this is indeed the last one, it hasn't left Falkirk yet, as one in this livery was still there this evening, albeit it did look like it was getting ready to depart.
Nope, It isnt the last one, The one above was 37437 while the one pictured below is 37439
https://www.flickr.com/photos/122507681@N02/26629009011/in/photostream/
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Alfie31511 - 30 Apr 2016
(26 Apr 2016, 10:41 pm)conzog wrote Am I right in thinking that these are the 40 'Gold' branded E400 MMCs?
All I know ATM is that Aldershot ones will be Gold, hope this helps ;-)
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - conzog - 30 Apr 2016
(30 Apr 2016, 12:19 pm)Alfie31511 wrote All I know ATM is that Aldershot ones will be Gold, hope this helps ;-)
From what I've seen elsewhere after posting my previous post it seems that 10749 - 10760 are for Cheltenham to possibly replace the current Gold fleet on route 94. I've also seen a few people saying that the 18 due for Aldershot are going to replace the current single deck Golds on route 1. I've not seen anything elsewhere for 10779 - 10788 for Oxford but it seems likely they are Gold as Oxford is expecting two separate batches with 10779 - 10788 being among the other Gold orders. Oxford's Gold fleet is relatively young so I suspect these will be to upgrade the current fleet on routes X30/31 but I don't know for definite.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - Kuyoyo - 02 May 2016
As the first batches are being delivered, time for the order list updates
Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC Euro6
10511-10525 (SN16 OLU/V/W/X, OMA/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/O): Glasgow.
10526-10533 (SN16 OMP/R/S/T/U/V/W/X): Aberdeen (Jet Livery)
10534-10551 (SN16 OMY/Z, ONA/B/C/D/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/O/P/R/S/T): Gillmoss
10552-10563: Kendal
10564-10577: Gillmoss
10578-10630: Stockport
10631-10654: Newcastle
10655-10663: Barnsley
10664-10666: Worksop
10667-10687: Oxford
10688-10697: Exeter
10698-10700: Winchester
10701-10725: Folkestone
10726-10733: Leamington
10734-10748: Hull
10749-10760: Cheltenham
10761-10778: Aldershot
10779-10788: Oxford.
Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M Euro6
26041-26049: Winchester.
26050-26062: Chester.
26063-26080: Slatyford.
26081-26087: Chesterfield.
26088-26111: Porth.
Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6
37431-37439 (SN16 OPV/W/X/Z, ORC/F/G/H/J): Kings Lynn
37440-37444: Rock Ferry.
Optare Solo SLR Euro6
48031-48036: Kings Lynn
Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54284: East Scotland.
Volvo B11R/Plaxton Elite I Euro6
54277-54283: Rugby.
Volvo B11RT/Plaxton Elite Euro6
54331-54333: East Scotland
54334-54341: West Scotland
Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC Euro6 London
36609-36621: Bromley
Alexander Dennis Enviro400H MMC Euro6 London
12364-12401: Plumstead
Mercedes Benz Sprinter City 45
44001-44030: TBC
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - coldo121 - 02 May 2016
I was under the impression that Glasgow were to receive 18 new Double Deckers? A press release on the Stagecoach website seems to confirm this - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/west-scotland/2016/february2016/cumbernauld-investment
You have 10511-10525 listed as being for Glasgow which is 15.
Have three gone missing or been re-allocated elsewhere?
Thanks.
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - conzog - 02 May 2016
(02 May 2016, 5:12 pm)coldo121 wrote I was under the impression that Glasgow were to receive 18 new Double Deckers? A press release on the Stagecoach website seems to confirm this - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/west-scotland/2016/february2016/cumbernauld-investment
You have 10511-10525 listed as being for Glasgow which is 15.
Have three gone missing or been re-allocated elsewhere?
Thanks.
It looks like they may have just reduced the number that they had ordered as Stagecoach West Scotland posted a new article on 26th April which mentions only 15 new buses compared to the 18 that they had previously stated.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/west-scotland/2016/april/stagecoach-open-refurbished-cumbernauld-depot
RE: Stagecoach 2016/2017 order - northern156 - 02 May 2016
(02 May 2016, 8:43 pm)coldo121 wrote Can an Admin please lock this topic before it gets out of hand?
Sorry unless I'm missing something there's absolutely no sort of aggrevation to suggest this topic could get out of hand??