(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx wrote If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.

(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx wrote If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.

(12 Feb 2020, 9:40 am)streetdeckfan wrote It doesn't have anything to do with competition, it's the lack of passengers on those routes.
If there was competition on those routes, there would be no need to subsidise them as the competitor would take over when one of them drops out.

Without knowing too much about the routes around that area, I will agree with what you said about the services not going anywhere useful. It seem to me like all these estate routes are just being tacked on to other similar routes rather than being integrated into ones that visit actual places.

(16 Feb 2020, 5:38 pm)Michael wrote With the chaages to services coming up in North Tyneside, i wonder if the first of the 10 reg Solo's will get withdrawn from Percy Main?, sure it was Dan who mentioned it somewhere, that they'll be the first Solo's to go.

(16 Feb 2020, 5:43 pm)Tom wrote Some of them sound awful.
Even without knowing the whole details of the changes, at least 2 can be withdrawn with the W1/W1A passing into GCT.

(16 Feb 2020, 5:56 pm)Michael wrote With the changes to the routes, maybe 1 or 2 more could get withdrawn.



698 - 704 - 10 reg, however have all been branded as "Little Coaster"


705 is the other 10 reg with 709, 2009 model.

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How long are the Solo's normally kept, is it 12 years?

What about the other buses, how long are they kept for, before they're normally replaced?

(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom wrote GCT have registered the 335 going to North Shields from the 22nd March - provides some good links for Hadrian Park, and also from North Shields to key business areas like Quorum.

However this pretty much confirms the 42 and 42A will be scrapped from North Shields - i’d say that’s a PVR reduction of 3 or 4 without looking. 
Looks like the 19 will also be scraped from Ashington to Northumberland Park, PVR reduction of 2.


GCT have also registered the 41 and 42/42A which i guess is evening and Sunday’s.

I believe the 11 PVR will increase by 1 as from what i’ve heard it’ll be serving Holy Cross.

What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?

(20 Feb 2020, 11:56 am)JP6004 wrote Typical, services being spliced, therefore raising fares for customers!! Same happened in washington few years ago. Totally pointless and problematic

(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom wrote It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.

(20 Feb 2020, 12:01 pm)Tom wrote It’s quite poor, but I think Go North East tickets are going to be accepted on GCT operated 11,19,40,41 and 42/42A.

(20 Feb 2020, 12:13 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I assume that will only include return tickets issued on the earlier journeys GNE operate and not the likes of day/week/month tickets?

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(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom wrote What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?

(21 Feb 2020, 1:45 pm)V514DFT wrote So the 11 is going to be its former 17 route to Wallsend as for the 40/41, i'd guess the 40 is going to do Wallsend-Hadrian Park via Battle Hill and the 41 Wallsend- Hadrian Park via Howdon and High Howdon like it used to as for the 42/42A Wallsend-North Shields i dont see a replacement at all

(21 Feb 2020, 7:21 pm)Storx wrote There isn't a registration for the 40? It's only the 41 and 42/42A? The 42/42A from Cobalt to North Shields is being replaced by the 335 (subsidised). There's no replacement Wallsend to Cobalt by the looks of it but with the 22 every 10 minutes it's not really worth it.

(21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm)Tom wrote If (which is unlikely), the drivers have got it wrong.

What would make sense to me is have the 41 operating

Hadrian Park - Battle Hill - High Farm - Wallsend - Holy Cross then a circular up Churchill Street, via Coniston Road, Ridley Avenue, Tynemouth Road and back to Churchill street (then reverse).

That would maintain the bus service on Coniston Road - which would be lost if the 41 and 42 are no longer going to serve it.

Then the 11 would remain the same.

(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT wrote I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

(22 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm)Michael wrote Nexus contract changes by the looks of it.

(22 Feb 2020, 2:29 pm)V514DFT wrote I always thought these routes were quite successful,wonder why theyve waited til now to bin the services off

(22 Feb 2020, 7:19 pm)Storx wrote Stagecoach's 22 extension basically. It's more frequent, less expensive and also goes more places. There's no reason to use the 40/41 if you lived close enough to get the 22. Now that they've lost the night time and evenings it's looking very bleak for them and will be the final nail in the coffin imo hence the 11 going into Holy Cross. It wouldn't surprise me if the 41 is gone altogther or only Wallsend to Hadrian Park in the next couple years.

(22 Feb 2020, 7:45 pm)Tom wrote Doesn’t look like the 11 is going to Holy Cross
https://bustimes.org/services/11-whitley-bay-wallsend

(24 Feb 2020, 8:06 pm)pbjd wrote https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/item/changes-bus-services-11-19-4041-4242a-and-335

Changes in North Tyneside confirmed on Nexus website.