(26 May 2020, 1:46 pm)Michael wrote PVR changes due to services from 1st June: (missed out the ones which will go back to full service later, such as the 56/60)


1A/1B: 13 PVR
4: 10 PVR
X6/X7: 3 PVR
9: 5 PVR
13: 1 PVR
X20: 6 PVR
20: Same as pre-covid PVR
21: Same as pre-covid PVR
X21: 4 PVR
25: 6 PVR
26/27: 14 PVR
33: 2 PVR
34: 3 PVR
38/38A: 2 PVR
39/39A: 8 PVR
49/49A: 6 PVR
55: 6 PVR
61: 5 PVR
X66- 3 PVR
71: 2 PVR
201: 1 PVR
209/210: 1 PVR

Think those are right?

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Also looks like the Scania's won't see service again at Deptford... i can't even remember the PVR's before COVID-19 so can't compare some of them, but i would think the drop in the PVR would allow these and a few more of the Omnicities to get withdrawn.


Will the X6/X7/X20 interwork still, as 3 more Solo's would need to be repainted.

(26 May 2020, 2:00 pm)JP6004 wrote May see X20 upgraded to singles with the extension.....

Hopefully L94 wont be back out. Sad to see them go,but long overdue

(26 May 2020, 2:03 pm)Michael wrote Ye, i just edited my post, to include the X20 likely to be upgraded to Streetlites haha - i wonder if this is where the Red Kite streetlites (refurbished?) are supposed to go?, the X-Lines livery would look good on a Streetlite mind.


Sad to see the Scania's go... glad i got one last ride before lockdown etc.

(26 May 2020, 2:03 pm)Michael wrote Ye, i just edited my post, to include the X20 likely to be upgraded to Streetlites haha - i wonder if this is where the Red Kite streetlites (refurbished?) are supposed to go?, the X-Lines livery would look good on a Streetlite mind.


Sad to see the Scania's go... glad i got one last ride before lockdown etc.

(26 May 2020, 2:20 pm)Adtrainsam wrote Weren’t the Red Kites meant for the 35 when the Streetdecks (finally) arrive at Consett? 

Are there are refurbished spare single deck buses that could be for the X20?

(26 May 2020, 2:20 pm)Adtrainsam wrote Weren’t the Red Kites meant for the 35 when the Streetdecks (finally) arrive at Consett? 

Are there are refurbished spare single deck buses that could be for the X20?

(26 May 2020, 2:27 pm)cbma06 wrote Dan already mentioned  a few months ago that the red kite streetlites are not going on the 35, I was thinking at the time that those streetlites would go on the 55


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(26 May 2020, 2:39 pm)JP6004 wrote Well they a few to spread around  no doubt all will become clear soon as Streetdecks nigh on complete.

(26 May 2020, 3:15 pm)Michael wrote Ye, rumours was:


Deptford to gain the 8 Streetlites from the Red Kite (confirmed) - personally now, i think these will go on the new X20 service now after a small refurbishment.

6149 - 6154 to Riverside for the Loop

Red Arrow B9's will move to a Newcastle service due to the upgraded Euro 6 engine.


Most/all the Omnidekka's will move to replace the Plaxton President's and the East Lancs Myllennium Vyking's.

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GNE did a post about the changes and not one person has read them....... and asking questions which they'll find in the article

(26 May 2020, 1:46 pm)Michael wrote PVR changes due to services from 1st June: (missed out the ones which will go back to full service later, such as the 56/60)


1A/1B: 13 PVR
4: 10 PVR
X6/X7: 3 PVR
9: 5 PVR
13: 1 PVR
X20: 6 PVR
20: Same as pre-covid PVR
21: Same as pre-covid PVR
X21: 4 PVR
25: 6 PVR
26/27: 14 PVR
33: 2 PVR
34: 3 PVR
38/38A: 2 PVR
39/39A: 8 PVR
49/49A: 6 PVR
55: 6 PVR
61: 5 PVR
X66- 3 PVR
71: 2 PVR
201: 1 PVR
209/210: 1 PVR

Think those are right?

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Also looks like the Scania's won't see service again at Deptford... i can't even remember the PVR's before COVID-19 so can't compare some of them, but i would think the drop in the PVR would allow these and a few more of the Omnicities to get withdrawn.


Will the X6/X7/X20 interwork still?, thinking more of the X20 getting delayed at Durham etc, also 3 more Solo's need to be repainted, unless they're split and X20 gets Streetlites in X-Lines livery?

(26 May 2020, 1:12 pm)LeeCalder wrote 21 going via Arnison.

Don't get that one. Adding more journey time onto an already lengthy journey time.

A cheaper and quicker service in the X12, and running at the same frequency as well...

(26 May 2020, 4:04 pm)Storx wrote The PVR of the X21 is 8 not 4.

Surely a better home for the ex Red Kite streetlites is the 61 and brand it Drifter with the 60 batch.

The 21 to Arnison is blatently an attempt to take on the 64, with a 10 minute service between there and Durham with the 50 and X20.

Does the X20 need anything bigger than Solo? There should be a few spare from the Peterlee network which could easily be refurbished. There's not really anywhere for them to go and I can't see the Little Coaster or anywhere else getting them.

(26 May 2020, 1:12 pm)LeeCalder wrote 21 going via Arnison.

Don't get that one. Adding more journey time onto an already lengthy journey time.

A cheaper and quicker service in the X12, and running at the same frequency as well...

(26 May 2020, 4:13 pm)Michael wrote So it is... not sure what happened, 9 weeks off work and I've gone to pot with numbers!

The X20 might need bigger buses but that depends on how well the extension is used... i'm not sure what the numbers are like on the 14.

(26 May 2020, 1:34 pm)cbma06 wrote I’m surprised that the hourly 55 that terminates at Peterlee didn’t get extended to station Town replacing service 202, while the other 55 is replacing the 206,  I was surprised that GNE pulling out of Hartlepool altogether.


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(26 May 2020, 4:25 pm)Storx wrote It's been a long 9 weeks I know that ha.

Not too sure on the 14 can't imagine them being too high though, Sacriston has the Diamond and Witton Gilbert has the X5 which are both quicker to Durham so it can only really be used by many people unless they want to go to Arnison. Langley Park also has the 13 which is quicker aswell.

It appears that the 60 and 61 are interworking in evenings aswell, so Streetlites for 61 from somewhere?

Surprised no-one has mentioned the fact that the 1 (now 25) from Gateshead to Wrekenton no longer has an evening service at all or the fact that the 26 has been cut at Jarrow and dropped to every 30 minutes can't see both of those being popular changes

(26 May 2020, 5:03 pm)Acky81 wrote Hold on a minute if there’s no 55 or 33 on Saturday Sunday or bank holidays from Silksworth how do you get to Sainsbury’s

(26 May 2020, 5:20 pm)Michael wrote Does the 35A operate on an evening ?
Stagecoach??

The 55 isn't running through Silksworth from the 1st June, at all.

(26 May 2020, 5:20 pm)Michael wrote Stagecoach??

The 55 isn't running through Silksworth from the 1st June, at all.

stagecoach don’t operate 12 evenings Sundays and bank holidays and at present there’s no 12 at all

(26 May 2020, 6:35 pm)Acky81 wrote No service Saturday past Sainsbury’s if there’s no 33 or 55. Stagecoach 12 isn’t currently running

(26 May 2020, 6:40 pm)ThomasBooth123 wrote Stagecoach 13 Goes last Sainsbury so It will still have a Saturday service

(26 May 2020, 6:35 pm)Acky81 wrote No service Saturday past Sainsbury’s if there’s no 33 or 55. Stagecoach 12 isn’t currently running

(26 May 2020, 7:21 pm)missedbus wrote Think Scania L94 won't come back, also a few older Solos might be withdrawn as well.
Also, Hexham appears to have used Citaros today on X84/X85, so the recommissioning of the mothballed fleet seems to be underway.

(26 May 2020, 4:54 pm)Ambassador wrote The Arnison one for the 21 is odd. Traffic around the Arnison can be a bit troublesome (a la the Team Valley and MetroCentre services) .Why increase commuting time on your flagship commuter route? I don't see it lasting.
 
Re - the 25 - yet another bus routed through golden corridor Low Fell. Birtley isn't entirely cut off from the QE (just the North End of Portobello etc) which requires a 23 to Wrekenton or a walk down to Durham Road to catch the 28. Birtley does maintain its link to Bensham Hospital (surprisingly).

Not surprised on the 26 - I can fly to Paris quicker than it meanders it way through to Newcastle.

(26 May 2020, 8:39 pm)Acky81 wrote Nope the 13 doesn’t serve blind lane. So as it stands there’s no go north east or stagecoach service on Saturdays towards Sainsbury’s and the Barnes