(22 May 2021, 9:31 pm)atlantean560 wrote Stagecoach tried the N services twice, remember the first attempt as they picked up at central station and were using the brand new transbus E300 at the time . I think GNE are missing out on the Q3 evening services over the full route, given the popularity of the Ouseburn/quayside area

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(23 May 2021, 10:55 am)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if it is more to do with the over-reliance on the night time economy for those services not working.
These new evening/later run and night time services have the potential to not only work with the night time economy, but also for those getting to/from work.

(23 May 2021, 11:36 am)big mac wrote I think part of the reason for night services not working must be the fact that in many cases they're not great value for money.  You can't use day/week/month passes on them and they have a flat fare which is usually quite a bit more than the same fare would be on a regular day time service.

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(23 May 2021, 11:36 am)big mac wrote I think part of the reason for night services not working must be the fact that in many cases they're not great value for money.  You can't use day/week/month passes on them and they have a flat fare which is usually quite a bit more than the same fare would be on a regular day time service.

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(23 May 2021, 10:55 am)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if it is more to do with the over-reliance on the night time economy for those services not working.
These new evening/later run and night time services have the potential to not only work with the night time economy, but also for those getting to/from work.

(23 May 2021, 10:55 am)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if it is more to do with the over-reliance on the night time economy for those services not working.
These new evening/later run and night time services have the potential to not only work with the night time economy, but also for those getting to/from work.

(23 May 2021, 8:56 pm)Adrian wrote The City Centre routes are also important for these night buses. A taxi will turn up at your feet, so buses need to do the same. People are simply not going to walk 10 mins to a bus stop when they're full of drink.

With the N56 for example; serving Grey Street, Dean Street and the Quayside, before heading over the Swing Bridge to Gateshead would be better than the daytime route. Or failing that; do the normal route but and serve the station bus stops, instead of St Nicholas Cathedral and the high level.

(23 May 2021, 9:27 pm)Storx wrote Personally I think it might be more of the routes.

The N20, N21, N56 and N58 we're all lucky as both ends of the routes had bars and a night time economy in Durham, Sunderland, Whitley Bay and Newcastle with Low Fell and Chester Le Street on the N21, Concord on the N56 and Houghton on the N20

The Stagecoach routes only have Newcastle so you might be lucky and pick up 10 passengers in Newcastle on the outbound journey but you can pretty much guarantee that the inbound journey would be dead and your not getting any intermediate journeys either. I'm not sure how expensive they were but your looking at least 20+ passengers from Newcastle to make it viable when you start to cost keeping a depot open, staff costs, lack of inbound / intermediate passengers etc.

Sadly think the 4 and 60 are going to have similar problems as there's not exactly much between Concord and Houghton for the 4 (depends on Amazon really) and there's going to be very little traffic heading into Sunderland early in the morning from Seaham for the 60, reminds of the N58 which failed miserably, but hoping I'm wrong.

(23 May 2021, 10:55 pm)Andreos1 wrote I agree that the night time economy is important, but it's like putting your eggs in one basket. 
For all sending the 56 via the Quayside might pikc up a load one week, there's no guarantee it will pick up the next. 

(24 May 2021, 9:21 am)Micheal Aaron wrote Wonder what they will use on the Night buses. Possibly for the N21 they might use one of the X21 X Lines buses as one seems to do a 21 trip while an Angel seems to do an X21

(24 May 2021, 9:42 am)V514DFT wrote No,there is (or was) a dedicated decker they had for the N21

(24 May 2021, 9:42 am)V514DFT wrote No,there is (or was) a dedicated decker they had for the N21

(24 May 2021, 9:44 am)JP6004 wrote Sure it was one of the 633X streetdecks before it went blue xlines

(24 May 2021, 9:56 am)streetdeckfan wrote Twas 6333 iirc.
6332 was the blue Hop Tap Go branded to promote Contactless payments (which happened to be my favourite shade of blue)

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(24 May 2021, 10:02 am)JP6004 wrote Still think X21 should of been purple version as it runs through Durham. And X9/X10 should of been blue version - perhaps tad darker like a classic chocolate bar mmmmmm

(24 May 2021, 10:57 am)streetdeckfan wrote Purple is such an ugly colour though!

(26 May 2021, 8:23 am)big mac wrote I've noticed on the GNE website, the updated timetables have the night journeys on the 21 numbered as the N21, but the ones on the 56 are showing as just 56, with no N prefix.

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(26 May 2021, 10:54 am)Ds1197 wrote there's three extra journeys on the 50/50A from saturday

(26 May 2021, 12:18 pm)deanmachine wrote Is the 50A going past Nissan new too? It never used to when I used to get it home from work at the Galleries 4 years ago. Could have done with this 11pm journey home too.

(24 May 2021, 9:56 am)streetdeckfan wrote Twas 6333 iirc.
6332 was the blue Hop Tap Go branded to promote Contactless payments (which happened to be my favourite shade of blue)

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(24 May 2021, 11:16 am)JP6004 wrote Depends on the shade 

(26 May 2021, 10:42 am)deanmachine wrote Because it is the same as the daytime route, same with the 60.

(26 May 2021, 12:18 pm)deanmachine wrote Is the 50A going past Nissan new too? It never used to when I used to get it home from work at the Galleries 4 years ago. Could have done with this 11pm journey home too.

(27 May 2021, 7:48 am)big mac wrote I was thinking more from the point of view of the N prefix denoting that it is a "special" service, and that day passes etc won't be valid on them.  When a night bus ran previously on the 56, it was numbered N56 despite it having the same route as the day time service.

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(27 May 2021, 5:21 pm)deanmachine wrote It didn't have the same route as the daytime services. There's also been no announcement of fares, and judging by the Washington area routes, they look to be targeting factories. I think it might be regular fares, with the £1 single being valid 'till 3am.

(27 May 2021, 5:32 pm)big mac wrote What was different about its night time route?

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(27 May 2021, 5:38 pm)deanmachine wrote Coming from Sunderland it turned left down Ferryboat Lane, then along the A1231 direct to the Galleries, before heading through Albany and dropping back onto the 56 route at Concord.