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RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 21 Nov 2021
More stuff on the transport hub
As part of our ambitious plans to improve North Shields and transform the town into a residential location of choice and an attractive, family-friendly destination we are developing designs for a new transport hub and adjoining town square.
It forms part of our aims to create a smaller but more vibrant, high-quality town centre; to create more flexible retail opportunities and expand the evening and weekend economy; to improve public transport and the quality of walking and cycling connections across the town (including better links to Fish Quay); and to raise and improve the quality of the built environment and the quality of public space in North Shields with more of it suitable for hosting events and festivals.
The proposed transport hub will provide a modern, high-quality facility in the heart of the town centre.
The facility will bring public transport, including buses, Metro, taxis and links to cycling infrastructure, together in one place – making it easier for people to choose cleaner, greener forms of travel.
It is hoped that the transport hub will become the first net zero carbon building in North Tyneside and design work to achieve this is ongoing and has been designed with sustainability at the forefront through the use of materials, solar energyn as well as the way surface water quality is managed.
Safety and security also features predominantly in the designs with a high-quality, open and expansive waiting area.
There will be provision for artwork to be displayed and modern facilities including Changing Places toilets, which provide extra equipment and space for people with a disability to allow them to use the toilets safely and comfortably, and real-time information displays for all local bus, Metro and ferry services.
The transport hub will connect to the existing Metro station and town centre shopping area and will include opportunities for an additional retail offer to be accommodated inside. It will also include modern, high-quality cycle storage and the facility will connect to the expanding network of cycle routes in the borough.
The outside area will feature high-quality improvements to public spaces.
https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/1574/north-shields-transport-hub-and-town-square
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RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 11 Feb 2022
Bus Station work in North Shields is starting soon on the 28th February
Go North East has some temporary stops in place
From Monday 28 February, some bus stops in North Shields will change to allow for the next phase of the Interchange construction.
Service 11 towards Wallsend will serve Bedford Street Stand B.
Service 19 towards Ferry on an evening and Sunday will serve Bedford Street Stand B.
Service 19 towards Northumberland Park/Ashington will serve a new temporary stop on Railway Terrace between Borough Road and Rudyerd Street.
Service 310 towards Newcastle will serve a new temporary stop on Railway Terrace between Borough Road and Rudyerd Street.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 28 Feb 2022
From today till 26th March. Rudyard Street bus stops are not in use anymore.
310/19/11(Stagecoach)/11(Go North East) will use temporary stops (post mentioned above)
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Rapidsnap - 28 Feb 2022
Don't know why they need a bus station in N Shields, rate they are going withdrawing bus services they won't need one. It end up as a White Elephant.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - V514DFT - 28 Feb 2022
Wallsend would of made more sense as a bus station as that is literally right next to the Metro,but again,i agree with Rapids comment,bus station for services soon to be withdrawn seems a waste of money now
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Adrian - 28 Feb 2022
(28 Feb 2022, 12:24 pm)Rapidsnap wrote Don't know why they need a bus station in N Shields, rate they are going withdrawing bus services they won't need one. It end up as a White Elephant.
Regeneration has to start somewhere, and hopefully an increased footfall results in an increase of services. If every element of town regeneration was met with a 'why bother?', then you'd never get past step one.
Hopefully it proves to be successful in North Tyneside and breathes a new lease of life into the town centre there, as like many other places in the North East, it desperately needs it.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 28 Feb 2022
(28 Feb 2022, 12:24 pm)Rapidsnap wrote Don't know why they need a bus station in N Shields, rate they are going withdrawing bus services they won't need one. It end up as a White Elephant.
It doesn't help either that it's in the complete wrong place so no doubt the most popular service serving North Shields (306) will avoid it unless they change the road into it from the North from one way and possibly the 1 aswell.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 28 Feb 2022
(28 Feb 2022, 1:28 pm)Storx wrote It doesn't help either that it's in the complete wrong place so no doubt the most popular service serving North Shields (306) will avoid it unless they change the road into it from the North from one way and possibly the 1 aswell.I have a feeling Arriva might change the route of the 306 to serve it
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 28 Feb 2022
(28 Feb 2022, 1:31 pm)Train8261 wrote I have a feeling Arriva might change the route of the 306 to serve it
Heading West it's quite difficult to do so unless you take a 5 minute diversion (and that's being generous) driving back on yourself. It's the same with the 1 and I can't see them doing it for a few passengers when there's a bus stop 5 minutes walk away.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 28 Feb 2022
Work on the bus station update
MILESTONE REACHED IN NORTH SHIELDS REGENERATION
The creation of a modern and convenient transport hub in North Shields has taken a major step forward today (28 February).
Set to bring public transport together into one central place and attract more people to the town centre, North Tyneside Council’s proposed transport hub will be located on the site of the former Co-op building on Bedford Street.
Work will get underway to strip the inside of the building before demolition begins in three weeks’ time.
The work is expected to take nine weeks to complete.
Full story: https://bit.ly/3hnw7ro
Also 9 weeks. Is that for it to built and finished or 9 weeks to Demolition then however many weeks to build
Edit some keys points down below
Three weeks stripping the inside of the building, followed by the demolition of the building due to take place from the end of March until the end of April
Parking bays on the west side of Rudyerd Street between Railway Terrace and William Street will be suspended for the duration of the works. Rudyerd Street will also temporarily become one-way with no northbound access
Two sets of investigation trenches will be dug in the footpaths at the back of Railway Terrace and near to the Metro station ramp in order to assess the depth of utilities and services. These areas are adjacent to vacant premises. The footpaths will be fenced off, but the road will remain open
A number of bus services operating from temporary bus stops from 27 February 2022
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Andreos1 - 22 Mar 2022
https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/news/29805/nexus-invest-3m-replacing-ageing-north-tyneside-metro-bridge
So many possible threads to put this in!
Plumped for this one.
Bridge to be replaced and height from road, to be increased by 1.5m
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 23 Mar 2022
It's interesting that it says the clearance for Double Decker Buses. Yet no services go under that bridge. The 333 was gonna go under that bridge yet never did
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Andreos1 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 8:44 am)Train8261 wrote It's interesting that it says the clearance for Double Decker Buses. Yet no services go under that bridge. The 333 was gonna go under that bridge yet never didYet...
If Nexus are spending that much money, you would hope that at the very least, they will re-route something down there.
Or, an operator with an ounce of commercial sense would explore opportunities and direct something via Tanners Bank to make full use of the ferry, fish quay, Tynemouth and the coast.
As for the 333, I genuinely never understood why it took the route it did, missing out the centre of Tynemouth.
The seemingly never ending loops back and forth around the fish quay and North Shields did my head in and surely didn't make the most of the opportunities the road network offered.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 11:46 am)Andreos1 wrote Yet...
If Nexus are spending that much money, you would hope that at the very least, they will re-route something down there.
Or, an operator with an ounce of commercial sense would explore opportunities and direct something via Tanners Bank to make full use of the ferry, fish quay, Tynemouth and the coast.
As for the 333, I genuinely never understood why it took the route it did, missing out the centre of Tynemouth.
The seemingly never ending loops back and forth around the fish quay and North Shields did my head in and surely didn't make the most of the opportunities the road network offered.
I have a feeling it might be an opposite idea of attempting to shut the fish quay down at the bottom for everything but buses during the summer months without causing lorries having to travel through the centre of Shields when they're heading down to the fish quay etc.
It would massively benefit the area, having the extra space like they did during Covid.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Train8261 - 23 Mar 2022
(23 Mar 2022, 11:46 am)Andreos1 wrote Yet...The route would have missed out the route the 306 does when Leaving North Shields. It still showed it serving the Fish Quay(the turn around point near Tanners Bank) and North Shields yet the part people complain about was the part where it leaves the ferry and heads straight along to the fish Quay. For some reason that was the problem why the 333 was rerouted
If Nexus are spending that much money, you would hope that at the very least, they will re-route something down there.
Or, an operator with an ounce of commercial sense would explore opportunities and direct something via Tanners Bank to make full use of the ferry, fish quay, Tynemouth and the coast.
As for the 333, I genuinely never understood why it took the route it did, missing out the centre of Tynemouth.
The seemingly never ending loops back and forth around the fish quay and North Shields did my head in and surely didn't make the most of the opportunities the road network offered.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Busu284 - 28 Jul 2023
Bit of an update to this
North Shields Interchange has made some major progress over the last few weeks especially
The road layout is starting to take place. The sign North Shields Transport Hub is now up on the Bedford Street side of the Interchange and the planned opening date if anything by the changes for September shows it'll be open early September before the 3rd or late August
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - V514DFT - 29 Jul 2023
(28 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm)Busu284 wrote Bit of an update to thisYes and this week they started putting the sign up on the Rudyerd Street side, and started planting Trees,i have been informed that once the hub is open, they are going to be redoing the paving on Bedford Street (atleast),this work will be done at night to avoid disruption
North Shields Interchange has made some major progress over the last few weeks especially
The road layout is starting to take place. The sign North Shields Transport Hub is now up on the Bedford Street side of the Interchange and the planned opening date if anything by the changes for September shows it'll be open early September before the 3rd or late August
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 29 Jul 2023
Still think this is a complete waste of money. I don't understand the need for a bus station there. No-one goes to North Shields as there's nothing there and a bus station won't change that and the interchange is in the complete wrong place where exactly can you interchange from without travelling 10/15 minutes in the complete wrong direction.
It's got white elephant like Four Lane Ends written all over it.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Rob44 - 29 Jul 2023
surely a transport hub/bus station might attracted people to shop in the area? That what i would assume the thinking was/
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 29 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 12:12 pm)Rob44 wrote surely a transport hub/bus station might attracted people to shop in the area? That what i would assume the thinking was/
Does it though? If there's nothing there, not sure what difference it would make. Personally I'd rather have a bus stopping at multiple points so I could get on at one end of the street do my business and get on at the other end of the street. Unless the bus is very late, I'm not planning to be in the interchange / bus stop more than 5 minutes.
Darlington is arguably one of the strongest places buses in the North East and the lack of a bus station doesn't seem a problem there.
I know in Blyth there was lots of complaining when they swapped the X7 and X9 around in South Beach as the pensioners couldn't get on the bus on the main street anymore to go to Amersham Drive so suggests I'm not in the minority.
The only place I'd care about a waiting area is on an interchange where I can't control the timings so may have to wait 15 minutes or whatever.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Rob44 - 29 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 12:29 pm)Storx wrote Does it though? If there's nothing there, not sure what difference it would make. Personally I'd rather have a bus stopping at multiple points so I could get on at one end of the street do my business and get on at the other end of the street. Unless the bus is very late, I'm not planning to be in the interchange / bus stop more than 5 minutes.
Darlington is arguably one of the strongest places buses in the North East and the lack of a bus station doesn't seem a problem there.
I know in Blyth there was lots of complaining when they swapped the X7 and X9 around in South Beach as the pensioners couldn't get on the bus on the main street anymore to go to Amersham Drive so suggests I'm not in the minority.
The only place I'd care about a waiting area is on an interchange where I can't control the timings so may have to wait 15 minutes or whatever.
north shields i canny compact though? I know darlo well from my gambling days and you are right there;s no bus station but i didnt think buses stopped at multiple point? i though each bus stop was for a certain service to if yhou wanted the 1 to boro you would still have to walk to that bus stop, no difference to a bus station?
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 29 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 12:36 pm)Rob44 wrote north shields i canny compact though? I know darlo well from my gambling days and you are right there;s no bus station but i didnt think buses stopped at multiple point? i though each bus stop was for a certain service to if yhou wanted the 1 to boro you would still have to walk to that bus stop, no difference to a bus station?
They all do a loop nowadays don't they, not sure if every bus does but I believe they do.
Stop at Northgate to the North of the Town then travel through and stop at Tubwell Row at the bottom of the town don't they which is pretty much both ends? Easily get off at one and travel down to the other.
See I think North Shields would be a good to have a loop around and just loop everything around it which they did until reletively recently where you used to get off outside the Metro and then get on at either the Library or the end of Bedford Street until they pissed around blocking roads off around Stephenson Square. It's stupid where the 306 stop is now since they done that.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - busmanT - 29 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 10:00 am)Storx wrote Still think this is a complete waste of money. I don't understand the need for a bus station there. No-one goes to North Shields as there's nothing there and a bus station won't change that and the interchange is in the complete wrong place where exactly can you interchange from without travelling 10/15 minutes in the complete wrong direction.Interchange with Metro?
It's got white elephant like Four Lane Ends written all over it.
Or Interchange with buses to/from the Ferry
Or Interchange with buses to/from the Hospital
The elected representatives on North Tyneside Council obviously think that there is a need.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - MetrolineGA1511 - 29 Jul 2023
(28 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm)Busu284 wrote Bit of an update to this
North Shields Interchange has made some major progress over the last few weeks especially
The road layout is starting to take place. The sign North Shields Transport Hub is now up on the Bedford Street side of the Interchange and the planned opening date if anything by the changes for September shows it'll be open early September before the 3rd or late August
Nice timing before my visit to the area later in September.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Storx - 29 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 5:28 pm)busmanT wrote Interchange with Metro?
Or Interchange with buses to/from the Ferry
Or Interchange with buses to/from the Hospital
The elected representatives on North Tyneside Council obviously think that there is a need.
Don't see why you'd interchange there though for the Metro it's just the wrong direction and heading South to head West or East and the buses are infrequent bar the services which run parallel to the Metro pretty much anyway. Similar with the hospital there's direct buses from most places to it and if not you'd likely swap at Whitley anyway where there's 9 BPH vs 2 BPH at North Shields.
Aren't the buses from the Ferry pretty much dead due to the bad timings now with most people choosing to walk instead.
Just seems like a checkbox exercise that they're 'doing' something to me. Not to mention the most popular bus route in North Shields (306) is very unlikely to serve the thing anyway and unless there's changes the 1 will only serve it in one direction aswell.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Adrian - 30 Jul 2023
(29 Jul 2023, 10:00 am)Storx wrote Still think this is a complete waste of money. I don't understand the need for a bus station there. No-one goes to North Shields as there's nothing there and a bus station won't change that and the interchange is in the complete wrong place where exactly can you interchange from without travelling 10/15 minutes in the complete wrong direction.It's part of wider regeneration through a masterplan for North Shields.
It's got white elephant like Four Lane Ends written all over it.
It's good to see infrastructure being one of the first developments, rather than the usual afterthought it becomes in most places.
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RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Busu284 - 24 Aug 2023
Yesterday Bedford Street closed and all buses are stopping on Railway Terrace till the new Interchange opens
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - busmanT - 01 Sep 2023
(24 Aug 2023, 12:35 pm)Busu284 wrote Yesterday Bedford Street closed and all buses are stopping on Railway Terrace till the new Interchange opens
Official opening of the North Shields transport hub tomorrow - https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/news/32509/new-transport-hub-and-town-square-open-north-shields
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Ambassador - 01 Sep 2023
(30 Jul 2023, 9:30 pm)Adrian wrote It's part of wider regeneration through a masterplan for North Shields.
It's good to see infrastructure being one of the first developments, rather than the usual afterthought it becomes in most places.
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Is it really an infrastructure development of note though?
You’ve (well not you directly of course) built an interchange station nobody wanted. Buses served the centre, the metro station is what it is and the ferry is so badly integrated you’d be better off swimming.
The compelling reason to visit has to be the retail or bespoke offering which doesn’t exist. Fish Quay is car and taxi heavy and North Shields town centre is an utter dive.
The sensible investment would have been to lower rates, encourage investment in the town, open up bespoke retail, leisure etc then think about a shiny new interchange.
RE: North Shields Regeneration Plan - Busu284 - 01 Sep 2023
(01 Sep 2023, 9:18 pm)Ambassador wrote Is it really an infrastructure development of note though?
You’ve (well not you directly of course) built an interchange station nobody wanted. Buses served the centre, the metro station is what it is and the ferry is so badly integrated you’d be better off swimming.
The compelling reason to visit has to be the retail or bespoke offering which doesn’t exist. Fish Quay is car and taxi heavy and North Shields town centre is an utter dive.
The sensible investment would have been to lower rates, encourage investment in the town, open up bespoke retail, leisure etc then think about a shiny new interchange.
Buses server the centre. What are you on about. They stopped at the bottom of Bedford Street. I'd say the Interchange is a welcome. The amount of criticism to the Interchange is purely cause it doesn't have enough buses to serve it. Alright have you seen before it was open where they stopped
1/317/53 Bedford Street
10/11/307 Rudyerd Street
317/Metro Replacement Railway Terrace
Having them all in one building makes it easier then having to do to 3 difficult places to get a bus service. Plus once it was demolished. Everything went onto Bedford Street and look how packed that became. The cars weren't helping either. The Interchange will do well