(11 Dec 2013, 9:15 pm)aureolin wrote The problem being you can't go around demolishing listed buildings. That tends to upset people.

(11 Dec 2013, 9:21 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote That is true, but who actually goes into that Section of Eldon Square anyways, I don't as there isn't anything there bar from the Candy Shop if I want some Candy otherwise i'll into the Grainger Market. Surely offering an location to Relocate to would Sweeten things.

(11 Dec 2013, 9:25 pm)aureolin wrote Yes, but that's your preference. It's obviously a viable business generating profit, otherwise it wouldn't be able to afford Intu's retail rent. Regardless of preference or viability of retail businesses, you still can't demolish listed buildings - whether 100 people use it or 0 do. It's preserved.

(11 Dec 2013, 9:21 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote That is true, but who actually goes into that Section of Eldon Square anyways, I don't as there isn't anything there bar from the Candy Shop if I want some Candy otherwise i'll into the Grainger Market. Surely offering an location to Relocate to would Sweeten things.

(12 Dec 2013, 10:15 pm)nk55 wrote Eldon square bus station is a nightmare, if u r lucky to get through the 1st set of lights you'll never get through the next to turn into the bus station, only 2 buses will fit inbetween these lights, in the bus station itself if there is a bus on the drop off stand, the next stand up you cant get off until that stand is vacated or scrape the front of your bus, there isn't enough room considering 3 bus stations have been condensed into 1, worswick street, marlborough crescent and the old eldon square, typical nexus, not fit for purpose.

(13 Dec 2013, 10:33 am)andreos1 wrote What has the design got to do with Nexus?
They only manage a facility owned by the council and intu (previously Capital).
The likes of Marlbrough Crescent and Worswick St, were owned by the operators who made the commercial decision to run into Eldon Square (or have services run through the town like the 27, 53 etc do currently).

www.cda-group.co.uk/projects/transportation/eldon-square-bus-station/ are the people who designed it and Newcastle City Council are the ones who approved it (as well as the road/traffic system around it).

(13 Dec 2013, 11:13 am)aureolin wrote Same with the Galleries bus station. Crap design, but you can't blame GNE - they only manage it.

(14 Dec 2013, 10:00 pm)andreos1 wrote Exactly!

Stood waiting for an x1/4 home this morning, I was freezing as the wind blew down the stairs in front of the (hidden) travelshop.
Then when an x1 and 4 came in together, a w5 couldn't get out.
Someone trying to cross the road at the bus station, to get to the car parks had to take her life in her own hands and nearly had her head taken off by a passing bus, as she peeked to see if it was clear to cross.

Struggled to get off the x1 earlier in the morning due to the escalators being plonked by the stand and crowds of people.

Each and every one of those problems were down to the design of the place, not the manager.
Just like the issues at Haymarket, Eldon Square, Durham Bus Stations etc

(25 May 2015, 7:34 pm)Malarkey wrote A third "Tyne Tunnel" linking South Shields directly to Tynemouth, Reducing the need to make an 8 Mile 25 Minute Journey, would also open New and Improved Transport Links.

(25 May 2015, 7:34 pm)Malarkey wrote A third "Tyne Tunnel" linking South Shields directly to Tynemouth, Reducing the need to make an 8 Mile 25 Minute Journey, would also open New and Improved Transport Links.

(26 May 2015, 1:58 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I don't think a South Shields-North Shields/Tynemouth tunnel or bridge is necessarily needed however I do think further crossings are required to alleviate congestion. If it were up to me I'd build two: one between Bill Quay/Hebburn and Walker; and the second between Elswick/Paradise and Metrocentre.  

(26 May 2015, 1:58 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I don't think a South Shields-North Shields/Tynemouth tunnel or bridge is necessarily needed however I do think further crossings are required to alleviate congestion. If it were up to me I'd build two: one between Bill Quay/Hebburn and Walker; and the second between Elswick/Paradise and Metrocentre.

(26 May 2015, 2:08 pm)Andreos1 wrote Or, how about little ferries, which would accept cars?
Works well in the Netherlands and to an extent the same across the Clyde from Gourock to Dunoon.

Granted, the flow wouldn't be as significant as a bridge, but could work and be significantly cheaper.

The old passenger only ferries on the Tyne, all vanished (apart from the Shields one), but one that accepted cars hasn't been tried as far as I am aware.

(26 May 2015, 2:08 pm)Andreos1 wrote Or, how about little ferries, which would accept cars?
Works well in the Netherlands and to an extent the same across the Clyde from Gourock to Dunoon.

Granted, the flow wouldn't be as significant as a bridge, but could work and be significantly cheaper.

The old passenger only ferries on the Tyne, all vanished (apart from the Shields one), but one that accepted cars hasn't been tried as far as I am aware.

(26 May 2015, 2:19 pm)cbma06 wrote Im positive that the shields ferry used to have cars aswell, but im talking about 50 years ago or so. the mid tyne ferries went out due to the shipping industry went down the pan when joining the EU. at most of them time it was for the ship workers etc...

Its the same as the wear ferry which was used for the dock workers traveling from the north to the south and vice versa.

(26 May 2015, 2:19 pm)cbma06 wrote Im positive that the shields ferry used to have cars aswell, but im talking about 50 years ago or so. the mid tyne ferries went out due to the shipping industry went down the pan when joining the EU. at most of them time it was for the ship workers etc...

Its the same as the wear ferry which was used for the dock workers traveling from the north to the south and vice versa.

(26 May 2015, 2:24 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I believe that would work in place of the Shields ferry, and perhaps between Hebburn and Walker - the return of the old mid-Tyne ferry - but I can't see it working between Paradise and Metrocentre A bridge between the latter two points has been in the pipeline for quite some time with various organisations being interested in its development. However, much like the Leamside Line, nobody is willing to provide the initial funding to kickstart the project. Someday it may come to fruition but I won't hold my breath. 

It is briefly discussed here: 
http://www.bridgesonthetyne.co.uk/others.html

I beleive there are other documents available online which also discuss this the project. There may also be other documentation at either Gateshead or Newcastle library - I can't remember which.

(26 May 2015, 2:50 pm)Andreos1 wrote Never knew that about the Shields Ferry.
Suppose it would have made sense it being their prior to the tunnel being built.

Aye, once the industry went, then there was no point having ferries scuttling about between derelict sites.

There is sight of one ferry in Get Carter.


Did there used to be a ferry that far down way back prior to the Scotswood Bridge?

A Clipper style service, like the one in London could work at various points along the river, although with the location of the Metrocentre and its distance from river, I imagine that may problematic in attracting foot passengers.

(21 Feb 2016, 1:27 pm)Malarkey wrote Ticket Machines like what you see at T&W Metro Stations across the region, but at Bus Stops/Bus Stations.

So basically you could walk to your local stop knowing your Bus is a few minutes away, Purchase your Ticket from the Machine and show the Driver upon boarding the Bus, this would result in faster Vehicle Loading Times and in turn likely improve Reliability of all Bus Services across the Region.

With regards to Smart Cards, you would still have to scan them on the Machine on the Bus, Single Fares would also only be available from the Driver also.

(21 Feb 2016, 1:27 pm)Malarkey wrote Ticket Machines like what you see at T&W Metro Stations across the region, but at Bus Stops/Bus Stations.

So basically you could walk to your local stop knowing your Bus is a few minutes away, Purchase your Ticket from the Machine and show the Driver upon boarding the Bus, this would result in faster Vehicle Loading Times and in turn likely improve Reliability of all Bus Services across the Region.

With regards to Smart Cards, you would still have to scan them on the Machine on the Bus, Single Fares would also only be available from the Driver also.