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RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 02 Sep 2016
(01 Sep 2016, 12:12 pm)Andreos1 wrote £20m of public funds set aside to support the GTR network.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37245163
*shakes head and is left rendered speechless*
Edit: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/southern-rail-train-cancellations-privatisation-nationalisation-government-transport-secretary-a7220051.html The Independent have taken a slightly impartial view on the matter.
A day after it was revealed a £20m bailout from the Government.
This is announced - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37253789
http://www.go-ahead.com/en/investors/full-year-results-centre.html
Huge profits across the Go-ahead Group (which owns 65% of the Govia train division).
£57m declared profit in rail division.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - citaro5284 - 02 Sep 2016
(02 Sep 2016, 8:53 am)Andreos1 wrote A day after it was revealed a £20m bailout from the Government.
This is announced - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37253789
http://www.go-ahead.com/en/investors/full-year-results-centre.html
Huge profits across the Go-ahead Group (which owns 65% of the Govia train division).
£57m declared profit in rail division.
But only £57m on revenue of over £2billion, so not that much really, was it only 2.6%?
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 02 Sep 2016
(02 Sep 2016, 5:49 pm)citaro5284 wrote But only £57m on revenue of over £2billion, so not that much really, was it only 2.6%?
Obviously not enough to afford £20m of improvements on the Southern network.
800k towards new staff and they cant cover that out of £57m...
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 05 Oct 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37560173
After Twitter furore, another 'huge PR gaffe' by Southern.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 14 Oct 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37650531
Report published by Transport Select Committee, with ministers urged to "get a grip' on the monitoring of rail franchise agreements.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 13 Dec 2016
Has anyone seen Chris Grayling's latest suggestion?
Banning strikes on the railway.
Even is own MP colleagues are looking for him to be sacked from the role
http://www.gregfoxsmith.co.uk/?p=1158
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Adrian - 13 Dec 2016
(13 Dec 2016, 5:33 pm)Andreos1 wrote Has anyone seen Chris Grayling's latest suggestion?
Banning strikes on the railway.
Even is own MP colleagues are looking for him to be sacked from the role
http://www.gregfoxsmith.co.uk/?p=1158
On what grounds? You can't just outlaw strike action because it causes disruption. It's met the criteria for the worst anti-TU laws in Europe, yet still not good enough for the Government.
To be honest, I don't think it'd stop the Southern drivers anyway. It'd just mean more wildcat strikes. POA members walked out a few weeks ago, and they're banned from striking.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 13 Dec 2016
(13 Dec 2016, 6:12 pm)Adrian wrote On what grounds? You can't just outlaw strike action because it causes disruption. It's met the criteria for the worst anti-TU laws in Europe, yet still not good enough for the Government.I have no idea.
To be honest, I don't think it'd stop the Southern drivers anyway. It'd just mean more wildcat strikes. POA members walked out a few weeks ago, and they're banned from striking.
There's various quotes kicking around, none of which do him any favours.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/southern-train-strike-ban-law-chris-grayling-rail-cancellations-latest-a7471341.html
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/13/chris-grayling-southern-rail-strike-is-palpable-nonsense
Quite how he would manage to implement it amongst employees of privately owned companies, is anyone's guess. If they were employed by the state, then thats obviously a different kettle of fish. But we all know that wont happen under a tory watch.
The man is a buffoon, his previous record and his letter to Johnson about TfL sums up his attitude.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 11 Jan 2017
As strike continues, an interesting perspective on media and Government spin - http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2017/01/wont-misled-southernstrike/#.WHXpddz1QMo.twitter
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 28 Feb 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/27/fight-on-uk-train-after-people-kept-placing-bagels-on-travellers-heads?CMP=fb_gu
He's got a bagel on his head!
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 15 Mar 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/15/southern-reaches-new-agreement-with-train-drivers-union-aslef?CMP=share_btn_tw
End to dispute in sight?
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 13 Jul 2017
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/885415361243471873
Ouch!
Glad the bluster, accusations and patter has been seen through.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 23 Oct 2017
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41725255
Driver in Kings Cross buffer collision fatigued
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 10 Jan 2018
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42626615
Report states franchise is 'not value for money'.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 10 Jan 2018
(10 Jan 2018, 7:58 am)Andreos1 wrote http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42626615
Report states franchise is 'not value for money'.
https://twitter.com/ABCommuters/status/951021002288517121
Extract from NAO report.
Ouch.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 20 May 2018
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-44188947
Trains cancelled on first day operating new timetable
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 15 Jun 2018
CEO Charles Horton has resigned
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 01 Jul 2018
franchise to be stripped?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44671423
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 07 Sep 2018
https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/05/steve-coogan-stands-up-for-passengers-kicked-out-of-first-class-on-packed-train-7917594/
Alan Partridge stands up for passengers on crowded train.
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 04 Dec 2018
GTR have been ordered to spend £15m of improvements for passengers following chaos over the summer.
DfT reckons GTR now won't make a profit for 2018
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - citaro5284 - 04 Dec 2018
(04 Dec 2018, 11:34 am)Andreos1 wrote GTR have been ordered to spend £15m of improvements for passengers following chaos over the summer.
DfT reckons GTR now won't make a profit for 2018
Have they been ordered?
https://www.go-ahead.com/en/media/news/2018/GTR-DfT-agreement-2018.html
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Andreos1 - 04 Dec 2018
(04 Dec 2018, 4:46 pm)citaro5284 wrote Have they been ordered?
https://www.go-ahead.com/en/media/news/2018/GTR-DfT-agreement-2018.html
Depends which headline you read I suppose. I've just linked a generic 'DfT gtr' Google search at the bottom of the page.
Hopefully it provides a balanced context.
This quote taken from one of the links is pretty interesting, particularly if it's an agreement like your shareholder link purports.
"These measures do not make GTR immune from further sanctions in the event of any subsequent failure to perform."
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ms-android-huawei&ei=c9kGXOjuINbwgAbS772YCw&q=Gtr+dft&oq=Gtr+dft&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3..0i8i30l2.5252.6812..7420...0.0..0.115.638.1j5......0....1.........0j0i8i10i30j0i10i30j0i7i30j0i131i67j0i131j0i67.1GqN_39AYRU
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - citaro5284 - 25 Mar 2022
I see GAG have retained GTR until at least April 2025
https://www.go-ahead.com/investors/regulatory-news
RE: TSGN Franchise: Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern (incl. Gatwick Express) - Storx - 25 Mar 2022
(25 Mar 2022, 7:09 am)citaro5284 wrote I see GAG have retained GTR until at least April 2025
https://www.go-ahead.com/investors/regulatory-news
Poor imo, after what's going on at South Eastern. They should be stripped of everything but it's no surprise with the current lot in power.