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RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Unber43 - 28 Jul 2022

I have seen the 82/82A several times today and from what I have seen it has been quite busy


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 5:41 pm)MurdnunoC wrote How are JH Coaches competing with GNE via Nexus?

They are being paid to provide a service which Nexus have deemed socially necessary through a tendered bidding process. JH Coaches may have registered the lowest price for that contract, but I suspect they were bidding against a range of operators, not just GNE. As we've seen with other operators in the region recently, the lowest bid isn't always the most sustainable bid, which is why the contract sometimes put back out to tender. Now I'm not suggesting that this is the case with JH Coaches, but I guess we'll soon find out whether their bid was too low if the service is re-tendered and they don't win it.

Competing in the sense it exists alongside GNE alternatives. To go from Gateshead to QE Hospital, Wrekenton and Washington, GNE services exist or passengers can instead use the, apparently cheaper, 82. Options are competition, even if they cost more, someone might prefer them. GNE are probably a better option than JH Coaches, but a return is apparently cheaper and the Nexus day ticket might be valid for travel, I'm not sure, therefore it's competing in a sense.


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - MurdnunoC - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 6:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Competing in the sense it exists alongside GNE alternatives. To go from Gateshead to QE Hospital, Wrekenton and Washington, GNE services exist or passengers can instead use the, apparently cheaper, 82. Options are competition, even if they cost more, someone might prefer them. GNE are probably a better option than JH Coaches, but a return is apparently cheaper and the Nexus day ticket might be valid for travel, I'm not sure, therefore it's competing in a sense.

So, let's say the service comes up for tender again, and GNE win the contract. Are GNE competing with GNE, via Nexus? The fares structure for that contract is stipulated by Nexus, I believe, so will GNE be a better option than GNE in that scenario?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Aaron21 - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 6:31 pm)MurdnunoC wrote So, let's say the service comes up for tender again, and GNE win the contract. Are GNE competing with GNE, via Nexus? The fares structure for that contract is stipulated by Nexus, I believe, so will GNE be a better option than GNE in that scenario?
That's gne on half there own network. Withdrawn a service cause that other service is doing well. Ie 55 & X1


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 28 Jul 2022

(25 Jul 2022, 6:46 pm)Jimmi wrote The offerings on the 82 today were E200's:
LK58CPY: https://flic.kr/p/2nAkNEc
LK09EOD: https://flic.kr/p/2nAgPT4

LK09EOD however was later replaced by StreetLite MX61BBU: https://flic.kr/p/2nAogKY

82A had E200 LX13CZG: https://flic.kr/p/2nAkNRj

Meanwhile the 30/31 was allocated StreetLite MX60BXD: https://flic.kr/p/2nAkNG1

Would it be okay for me to include your photos in my future videos? No problem if not, just sharing can improve on what's possible a lot easier than doing everything ourselves! Keeping up with regular uploads and constantly making new content is hard work!


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Andreos1 - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 5:43 pm)Dan wrote They’re exploiting gaps in the market in Washington. Just like Stagecoach with the 939.


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Plugging gaps surely?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Rob44 - 31 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 6:31 pm)MurdnunoC wrote So, let's say the service comes up for tender again, and GNE win the contract. Are GNE competing with GNE, via Nexus? The fares structure for that contract is stipulated by Nexus, I believe, so will GNE be a better option than GNE in that scenario?

Is this the case though? I read on intenet the 2.50 is the max fare on a secured service but its still 3.40 to town on the 29?  Or id this cause DCC are subbing it?


JH Coaches of Birtley - Dan - 31 Jul 2022

(31 Jul 2022, 6:53 am)Rob44 wrote Is this the case though? I read on intenet the 2.50 is the max fare on a secured service but its still 3.40 to town on the 29?  Or id this cause DCC are subbing it?


Yes, the 28/29 are Durham County Council contracts and they adopted GNE’s fares.

Nexus minimum cost contracts have fares set by them.


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JH Coaches of Birtley - Dan - 31 Jul 2022

(31 Jul 2022, 6:53 am)Rob44 wrote Is this the case though? I read on intenet the 2.50 is the max fare on a secured service but its still 3.40 to town on the 29?  Or id this cause DCC are subbing it?


Yes, the 28/29 are Durham County Council contracts and they adopted GNE’s fares.

Nexus minimum cost contracts have fares set by them.


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RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Rob44 - 31 Jul 2022

(31 Jul 2022, 7:01 am)Dan wrote Yes, the 28/29 are Durham County Council contracts and they adopted GNE’s fares.

Nexus minimum cost contracts have fares set by them.


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Cheers x2!


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 01 Aug 2022

Does anyone have any pictures/clips of the 82/82A and 30/31 they would be happy for me to use?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - LeeCalder - 04 Aug 2022

LK09 ENX has joined the JH fleet, in red


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 07 Aug 2022

Are JH doing the Metro replacements on 14th and 21st August?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Aaron21 - 07 Aug 2022

(07 Aug 2022, 10:07 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Are JH doing the Metro replacements on 14th and 21st August?
14th is GNE however dk if they have both the 900/901

21st is JH


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - TEN 6083 - 08 Aug 2022

(04 Aug 2022, 8:07 am)LeeCalder wrote LK09 ENX has joined the JH fleet, in red

[Image: 52270977517_0932441671_z.jpg]JH Coaches LK09 ENX by kieron mathews, on Flickr


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 09 Aug 2022

(08 Aug 2022, 4:56 pm)TEN 6083 wrote [Image: 52270977517_0932441671_z.jpg]JH Coaches LK09 ENX by kieron mathews, on Flickr

You have a lot of amazing pictures! This is another fine example. Wonderful background and perfect angle of the bus.

How do you know where buses and coaches will be in order to photograph them?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Retro Nero - 09 Aug 2022

I think the old style destination blinds look really good.


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Malarkey - 23 Aug 2022

MX07 BUW - Former Tyrers & First Manchester Volvo B9TL Wright Gemini is now with JH's - https://flickr.com/photos/rpbsp/52301824164/in/dateposted/


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 29 Aug 2022

Does anyone have any idea what buses are going to be on the Metro replacements this week?


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - busmanT - 29 Aug 2022

(29 Aug 2022, 12:48 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Does anyone have any idea what buses are going to be on the Metro replacements this week?
I suspect it will be the red Volvo B7TL


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - OrangeArrow49 - 29 Aug 2022

(29 Aug 2022, 6:59 pm)busmanT wrote I suspect it will be the red Volvo B7TL

All red ones?


JH Coaches of Birtley - TEN 6083 - 01 Sep 2022

JH Coaches are now tracking on bustimes


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RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Adrian - 01 Sep 2022

(01 Sep 2022, 5:44 pm)TEN 6083 wrote JH Coaches are now tracking on bustimes

Good, and about time!


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Unber43 - 01 Sep 2022

The final day to use GNE passes on JH 82/82A/30/31 is tomorrow right?


JH Coaches of Birtley - cbma06 - 01 Sep 2022

(01 Sep 2022, 5:53 pm)Unber43 wrote The final day to use GNE passes on JH 82/82A/30/31 is tomorrow right?


GCT has the 82A from September 4th


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RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - busmanT - 02 Sep 2022

(01 Sep 2022, 5:44 pm)TEN 6083 wrote JH Coaches are now tracking on bustimes


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The ticket machines still need programming with the correct registrations - JH02 COM was correct this afternoon though.


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - N391OTY - 02 Sep 2022

(02 Sep 2022, 7:24 pm)busmanT wrote The ticket machines still need programming with the correct registrations - JH02 COM was correct this afternoon though.

Saw JH07 COM, a Wright Gemini still in full Tyrers livery, at Regent Centre last night (Friday) on Metro replacements.

Their fleet of Enviro 200s is increasing as well. LK09 ENX/EOB/EOC/EOD are all shown on Bustimes (but not tracking yet) and I have also seen ENY at the garage.


RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - busmanT - 03 Sep 2022

(02 Sep 2022, 11:36 pm)N391OTY wrote Saw JH07 COM, a Wright Gemini still in full Tyrers livery, at Regent Centre last night (Friday) on Metro replacements.

Their fleet of Enviro 200s is increasing as well. LK09 ENX/EOB/EOC/EOD are all shown on Bustimes (but not tracking yet) and I have also seen ENY at the garage.
The two Volvo B9TL/Gemini are JH02 COM & JH07 COM - from the same batch (MX07 …) as the ones that GNE are getting from Manchester.


JH Coaches of Birtley - tyresmoke - 03 Sep 2022

(03 Sep 2022, 7:17 am)busmanT wrote The two Volvo B9TL/Gemini are JH02 COM & JH07 COM - from the same batch (MX07 …) as the ones that GNE are getting from Manchester.


JH02COM = MX07BUW
JH07COM = MX07BVF

Also arrived that I’ve not seen mentioned is two former Nottingham Omnidekka’s YT59OZV/OZW from Atlantic Travel - one of those now has the JH09COM plate on it. I would bet the other has JH59COM.


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RE: JH Coaches of Birtley - Unber43 - 03 Sep 2022

JH seems to be aquiring a lot of buses granted most are probably for replacements for their Presidents & their Scania L94, which still runs well. 


But it doesn't seem like they've got a lot of contract work to do, they've only got the 82/30/31/701 for single deckers. They still have a few schools