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RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 19 Jan 2017
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael wrote Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.
Any idea when we will find out who's won them?
Think they will though I have a feeling the 516 might change. (GCT?)
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 20 Jan 2017
(18 Jan 2017, 8:15 pm)dannygee wrote Heard few drivers from different companies talking and they said that from march the following is happening
W1,W1A,W2, W3 and 333 all getting operated by go north east instead of phoenix.
Dan is this true? If so what about the 59/359. I know some stuff was up for tender but i was surprised when i heard this from phoenix drivers.
Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.
Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Ds1197 - 20 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan wrote Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.
Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
What will the allocations be?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 20 Jan 2017
(19 Jan 2017, 3:05 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote Nexus are seeking tenders for South Tyneside and Sunderland services.
8, 39, 56A, 135 & 136 Evening and Sunday routes.
237, 238, 516, 592 & 593.
As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.
Service 8
The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 39
The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).
Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 56A
The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)
The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).
Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Services 237/238
There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).
Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 516
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 592
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 593
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Dan - 20 Jan 2017
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael wrote Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.
I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?
Any idea when we will find out who's won them?
re 238: See post above.
Invitation to tender commenced 17/01/2017
Deadline for responses is 27/02/2017
Award is announced mid-March 2017, with activity commencing 21/05/2017.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 20 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan wrote Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.
Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
Any idea on the others?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - NK53 TKT - 20 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)DanWho remembers this one? wrote http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468I was only a month old when that bus started on the 333!
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 20 Jan 2017
(19 Jan 2017, 9:18 pm)Michael wrote Hopefully the contracts remain the same as now.
I thought the 238 was fully paid by "Go North East"?
Any idea when we will find out who's won them?
That was my understanding too.
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/bus-route-changes-sunderland-coalfield-region Press release from the time. Don't have any official documentation to hand to confirm either way.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 20 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm)Dan wrote As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.
Service 8
The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 39
The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).
Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 56A
The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)
The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).
Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Services 237/238
There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).
Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 516
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 592
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Service 593
No changes to route. Revised specification as below:
Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018
Thanks Dan.
I'm hoping...
8 - Stagecoach
39 - Go North East
56A - Go North East
135/136 - Go North East
237/238 - Go North East
516/592/593 - Not bothered as i don't use the services.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - tyresmoke - 20 Jan 2017
Can't really see past GCT getting most of it
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 20 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 9:21 pm)tyresmoke wrote Can't really see past GCT getting most of it
Hope not, it could mean people won't be able to use their passes on the services (expect if they have network one pass) unless it'll be in the contract they can.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dannygee - 21 Jan 2017
Heard that gateshead central have got the W3
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 21 Jan 2017
(21 Jan 2017, 12:12 am)dannygee wrote Heard that gateshead central have got the W3
Wouldn't surprise me if they got the 59/359 and W2 as well.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dannygee - 22 Jan 2017
Who got the contract for metro replacements next sunday between shiremoor and north shields
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 24 Jan 2017
(20 Jan 2017, 11:08 am)Dan wrote Go North East has been awarded services W1/W1A and 333, yes.
Nice to see the 333 being awarded to Go North East again. Who remembers this one?
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=468
If GNE ever decided to pay for the routes themselves, what routes could they be merged in too?
Not from the area so not sure myself.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 24 Jan 2017
(24 Jan 2017, 9:52 pm)Michael wrote If GNE ever decided to pay for the routes themselves, what routes could they be merged in too?
Not from the area so not sure myself.
333 couldn't really be merged into anything to be honest, and can't see GNE ever taking it on commercially as it is a free service for Ferry passengers.
Same with the W1/W1A, other than an extension to Cramlington which would be good. Always thought GNE should have had a direct bus (other than the 17 which took over 2 hours) from Whitley Bay to Cramlington.
Wonder if GNE have got the 335 and M71 too, or that is GCT as well.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Michael - 24 Jan 2017
(24 Jan 2017, 9:55 pm)Tom wrote 333 couldn't really be merged into anything to be honest, and can't see GNE ever taking it on commercially as it is a free service for Ferry passengers.
Same with the W1/W1A, other than an extension to Cramlington which would be good. Always thought GNE should have had a direct bus (other than the 17 which took over 2 hours) from Whitley Bay to Cramlington.
Wonder if GNE have got the 335 and M71 too, or that is GCT as well.
Ah right, shame that.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Andreos1 - 24 Jan 2017
(24 Jan 2017, 9:55 pm)Tom wrote 333 couldn't really be merged into anything to be honest, and can't see GNE ever taking it on commercially as it is a free service for Ferry passengers.
Same with the W1/W1A, other than an extension to Cramlington which would be good. Always thought GNE should have had a direct bus (other than the 17 which took over 2 hours) from Whitley Bay to Cramlington.
Wonder if GNE have got the 335 and M71 too, or that is GCT as well.
I wonder if it could be extended up the coast at all? Granted the PVR would be increased, but rather than looping it round the roundabout on the front, it maybe continued to Whitley Bay or beyond. There could be scope to terminate the 1 at Tynemouth and/or merge the 333 with the Whitley Bay services.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 24 Jan 2017
(24 Jan 2017, 10:09 pm)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if it could be extended up the coast at all? Granted the PVR would be increased, but rather than looping it round the roundabout on the front, it maybe continued to Whitley Bay or beyond. There could be scope to terminate the 1 at Tynemouth and/or merge the 333 with the Whitley Bay services.
To be fair the few times I have seen the 333 at Tynemouth no one has been on it. It is a nice idea though, something I would like to see as well.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 26 Jan 2017
Any idea who's got the 335/M71 yet?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - South Tyne Lad - 26 Jan 2017
(26 Jan 2017, 5:36 pm)Tom wrote Any idea who's got the 335/M71 yet?
Wouldn't be surprised to either Pheonix or GCT, As they make very small bids to run the contracts, Sometimes I think how can drivers be paid aswell as trying to make a profit from anything.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 26 Jan 2017
(26 Jan 2017, 8:39 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Wouldn't be surprised to either Pheonix or GCT, As they make very small bids to run the contracts, Sometimes I think how can drivers be paid aswell as trying to make a profit from anything.
Phoenix have definitely lost them as they have cancelled them on Vosa, so maybe GCT. I agree with you there though they must make low bids for it, especially GCT.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Ambassador - 26 Jan 2017
Taxpayer hat on, enthusiast hat off.
Whichever company makes the most reasonable, realistic cost effective bid has to win.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dannygee - 27 Jan 2017
(26 Jan 2017, 9:02 pm)Tom wrote Phoenix have definitely lost them as they have cancelled them on Vosa, so maybe GCT. I agree with you there though they must make low bids for it, especially GCT.
Maybe arriva for the 335
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dave30366 - 27 Jan 2017
Who got the m71
Central got 335
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - dannygee - 27 Jan 2017
Any idea on who are operating the upcoming metro replacements?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - GuyParkRoyal - 27 Jan 2017
(27 Jan 2017, 11:05 am)dannygee wrote Any idea on who are operating the upcoming metro replacements?
Arriva will be operating the 900 on 29th January.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - park5354 - 27 Jan 2017
(27 Jan 2017, 11:05 am)dannygee wrote Any idea on who are operating the upcoming metro replacements?
Sunday 5th Feb, Heworth - Regent Centre will be operated by GO North East, with buses from various depots.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - Tom - 27 Jan 2017
(27 Jan 2017, 10:43 am)dave30366 wrote Who got the m71
Central got 335
Cheers, quite a way for GCT to be sending buses and drivers though!
RE: Tender Discussion Thread - GuyParkRoyal - 18 Feb 2017
The invitation to tender for Nexus miscellaneous and school service contracts has gone out for the period commencing 3/09/2017.
The contracts are for a one year period requiring low floor easy access vehicles to PSVAR standard with Euro 4 compliance.
Capacity based on a minimum of 44, 60 & 84 depending on route.
No variations will be accepted.