(07 Aug 2021, 9:05 am)ASX_Terranova wrote If you download GNE's open data, it shows all the routes and numbers from Sep in full. I even found the 30, so it looks like thats not going.

(07 Aug 2021, 9:42 am)DH9 wrote OS Maps wanted a subscription off me.   I'll take your word for it. 

(07 Aug 2021, 9:05 am)ASX_Terranova wrote If you download GNE's open data, it shows all the routes and numbers from Sep in full. I even found the 30, so it looks like thats not going.

(07 Aug 2021, 9:47 am)Wybus wrote The 30 isn’t going anyway, it’s just proposed to only run as far as Quaking Houses

(06 Aug 2021, 4:20 pm)Adrian wrote Headlines like 'Getting buses fit for the future', in a booklet of service cuts, and force-feeding readers with 11 pages of 'look how good we are', feels like the work of an excessively-paid consultant or spin-doctor. I somehow think that those losing their bus services in parts of West Durham and East Durham, will feel very little positivity from hearing about the 'luxury Xlines network' or how there's been a £17 million investment in modern, green buses. Can we just have spin-free in the future, please! 

(07 Aug 2021, 9:55 am)ASX_Terranova wrote What about Burnhope & Maiden Law, will that be a DCC contract?

(06 Aug 2021, 11:10 am)peter wrote Had a go at trying to work out the new PVR's:
16 - PVR 8 (-1) - Ex-Coaster B5's
21 - PVR 16 (+1) - Angel B5's
28 - PVR 4 (-1) - Optare Versa
78 - PVR 8 (+1) - Country Range Streetlites
204 - PVR 1 - Corporate Solo?
65 - PVR 4 - Versa's?
5/9 - PVR 8 (+3) - Corporate Streetlites
38 - PVR 1 (-2) - S&D Graphite Solo?
56 - PVR 10 (-1) - Citylink B9's 
X6/38A - PVR 2 - Peterlee Purple Solo's
27 - PVR 11 (-3) - Crusader B9's
26/50 - PVR 11 - Corporate Omnicity
82 - PVR 2 (-5) - Little Pink Solo's
84/85 - PVR 6 (+3) - Little Pink Solo's
X1 - PVR 13 (+1) - X-Lines Streetdecks (Red)
1 - PVR 9 (-4) - Coaster Streetlites
6 - PVR 5 (+1) - Corporate Livery
12/12A - PVR 5 - Corporate Livery
96/97 - PVR 10 - Green Arrow E200's
57 - PVR 7 (+2) - Corporate Livery
58 - PVR 6 (-1) - EG Rider B9's
51/52 - PVR 11 (-1) - EG Orbit Streetlites
30/31 - PVR 1 (-2) - Venture Solo?
47/47A - PVR 6 - X-Lines?
V1/2/3 - PVR 2 (-2) - Venture Solo
X30/31/70/71/72 - PVR 11 - X-Lines ADL E400
X45/X46 - PVR 9 - Green X-Lines Streetdecks
55 - PVR 4 (-1) - S&D Violet Citaro's
206 - PVR 1 - Peterlee Purple Solo
62/62A - PVR 4 - Peterlee Purple Solo

Can't guarantee they're all right so if anyone has any corrections lmk

(07 Aug 2021, 8:14 am)Storx wrote Does anyone know where the rest of the B5TL's are going yet? There doesn't seem to be anywhere logical where they can actually go bar downgrading the X5/X15 to get the deckers off there so they can be used on the Newcastle routes.

The Angel doesn't have enough buses either if I'm right.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:03 am)RobinHood wrote But, but, but, what about the 'Game Changing Electric Buses'... surely we haven't heard that enough times yet?

You definitely described Ray Stenning perfectly well though, excessively-paid consultant.

(07 Aug 2021, 9:31 am)L469 YVK wrote There's 15x Volvo B5LH so more than enough for the 16/16A and 47/47A.

StreetDecks in fact should see a small surplus so no need to remove from the X5/X15.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:09 am)Dan wrote What has Ray Stenning got to do with this?

The booklet was designed by Go North East’s in-house Graphic Designer. Perhaps she ought to be asking for a payrise if her work is being compared to that of an agency!


More than interested to learn of what the forthcoming electric buses will be for, the pantograph recharge system used in Harrogate would have advantages.. And by the way, the liveries look mint in sun 


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(06 Aug 2021, 8:41 pm)Ambassador wrote So the 28 has gone from commercially not viable please give us money Durham CC to…oh I suppose our multi billion pound parent group can afford to support the odd run after all?

(07 Aug 2021, 10:12 am)cbma06 wrote The B5LH can’t go on the 47/47A unless there not going into Newcastle anymore as there not Euro6


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(07 Aug 2021, 10:09 am)Dan wrote What has Ray Stenning got to do with this?

The booklet was designed by Go North East’s in-house Graphic Designer. Perhaps she ought to be asking for a payrise if her work is being compared to that of an agency!


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(07 Aug 2021, 10:45 am)RobinHood wrote He was described perfectly, irrespective of whether he produced that booklet or not.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:23 am)L469 YVK wrote Weren't GNE in the process of converting them to Euro 6? GNE will probably have other plans but  I doubt StreetDecks will be used though.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:58 am)cbma06 wrote Only 1 was done as a trial, don’t know if any more will be done yet.


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(07 Aug 2021, 9:31 am)L469 YVK wrote There's 15x Volvo B5LH so more than enough for the 16/16A and 47/47A.

StreetDecks in fact should see a small surplus so no need to remove from the X5/X15.

(07 Aug 2021, 10:04 am)peter wrote "We are in discussions with Durham County Council regarding the service to Burnhope and Lanchester, and they intend to maintain this service, at least in part, but Go North East may not necessarily be the operator running it."

However as Dan mentioned elsewhere, it seems GNE are taking on some of the services they initially announced were being withdrawn and replaced by DCC contracts, such as the 28, so remains to be seen what will happen to the full route 30 and the 71

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I got that the Angel PVR will only be 16 meaning they would have enough buses atm but no spares.

(07 Aug 2021, 11:07 am)Michael wrote Not sure how long the trial was for, but I wonder if it'll be speed up so they can be all converted to Euro 6 earlier than expected?

(07 Aug 2021, 8:48 am)DeltaMan wrote Its a fair point about synchronization times to meet trains - that is an issue across the industry. I think it could be done with the 71 at Seaham based on present arrivals and departure, certainly to and from the Houghton side.  However you are then at the mercy of Network Rail and the mandarins at DaFT as if they change the train times, even by a couple of minutes it can throw your neat bus schedule out the window!

I think there has to be an acceptance that at some point you have to stop throwing good money after bad. When you've posted a loss of £4mil and other operators have just about made a minor profit in similar operating circumstances, I imagine things are rightly reexamined

(07 Aug 2021, 6:34 am)GNE6312 wrote The PVR of the 47/47A is 6 which is perfect for the Ex lothian B9s
They can be refurbished to have NSAs & USBs fitted with the seats being retrimmed, and of course, they will be converted to euro 6. They will also be repainted into the X47s new livery, for this I choose to reincarnate an old brand used on the 47 many years ago, they will be repainted into a new livery branded as derwent rangers (an old brand from when the 47 was solars but has a nice ring to it) which will be a dark & lime green combo (basically reverse green arrows) or green & yellow

(07 Aug 2021, 11:46 am)idiot wrote Is there any plans for other cities or town in the North East to implement a CAZ?!

(07 Aug 2021, 2:22 pm)L469 YVK wrote Is the Tyne Valley Ten PVR now just 15x vehicles? Noticed that the long layover has been removed from Hexham originally introduced in 2014

(07 Aug 2021, 2:22 pm)L469 YVK wrote Is the Tyne Valley Ten PVR now just 15x vehicles? Noticed that the long layover has been removed from Hexham originally introduced in 2014

(07 Aug 2021, 12:11 pm)Michael wrote Na, they just want to move the problem around.............

(07 Aug 2021, 2:31 pm)Stanleyone wrote Blackhall Mill end is just 4 mins from 16 mins. Also shuffle around at Eldon Square with new timetables. X30/X31/X70/X71/X72 will now use E X1 will use D 6/10s will use C 47/47a/X45/X46 will use B and 12/12a will join X84/X85 on A