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RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 26 Oct 2014

Happy days...


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Michael - 26 Oct 2014

(26 Oct 2014, 11:16 am)Dan wrote Happy days...

Very! 

It seems to be getting worse every day, 2 breakdowns already this morning.... i bet we have one more in the next 5 hours.... Tongue


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - PH - BQA - 26 Oct 2014

Dont know much about the Metro at all, but to sort some of these issues out, as a lot seem to be trains breaking down, could they take them all out of service for a day and carry out maintenance. Bus replacement services I'm sure could be ran if they did it on a Sunday or even Sunday and a Bank Holiday Monday?


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 26 Oct 2014

They did something similar last summer/autumn - took out the extra peak time trains which operate so that the Metros could be properly repaired...


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Adrian - 26 Oct 2014

A comprehensive list of incidents and delays for the past two years could be quite embarrassing if it were released. 

Anyone fancy sticking an FOI into Nexus? Smile


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 26 Oct 2014

Have the male announcements on the East Coast trains been stopped?


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - DanPicken - 27 Oct 2014

(26 Oct 2014, 3:46 pm)Tom wrote Have the male announcements on the East Coast trains been stopped?

Yes as it would only work with 4064 but it got refurbished but it still stays doors closing by the male announcer. 


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 27 Oct 2014

A post on T&WM's Facebook page stating that disruption was cleared just before 01:00am this morning... Nicely coincides with the last train finishing for the night at 00:36am - no disruption as soon as that one finished for the night!


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 5:55 am)danpick wrote Yes as it would only work with 4064 but it got refurbished but it still stays doors closing by the male announcer. 

I thought 4084 had them?


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 27 Oct 2014

Have a guess why the service is disrupted tonight...


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - DanPicken - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 5:51 pm)Tom wrote Have a guess why the service is disrupted tonight...

3 trains taken out of service. And of course leaves on the track.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - PH - BQA - 27 Oct 2014

Need to use the Metro this Friday, wondering if anyone can help:
I've tried to use the website but it wont let me find the prices for students or 16-18 year old's ,only adults, can anyone tell me please how much it will cost to get from Monkseaton to Haymarket? Thanks 


Re: RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:07 pm)mb134 wrote Need to use the Metro this Friday, wondering if anyone can help:
I've tried to use the website but it wont let me find the prices for students or 16-18 year old's ,only adults, can anyone tell me please how much it will cost to get from Monkseaton to Haymarket? Thanks 
Believe you've got to have a POP card to be entitled to a discounted fare, so you'd be paying adult fare.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - PH - BQA - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:08 pm)Dan wrote Believe you've got to have a POP card to be entitled to a discounted fare, so you'd be paying adult fare.
Ah right ok, just got a bit confused as the website stated those fares. Thank you Smile


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:07 pm)mb134 wrote Need to use the Metro this Friday, wondering if anyone can help:
I've tried to use the website but it wont let me find the prices for students or 16-18 year old's ,only adults, can anyone tell me please how much it will cost to get from Monkseaton to Haymarket? Thanks 

DON'T use the metro if you can help it. You'll be delayed no matter what.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Andreos1 - 27 Oct 2014

Just wanted to try and bring some balance to this.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-bosses-bring-new-24hr-7910120

This is on top of the £100k spent chopping down and reducing foliage earlier this year.

It isn't the only railway to struggle with leaves on the line, but it is one that doesn't benefit from the money or infrastructure that Network Rail can throw at their parts of the system.
Even then, trains are delayed, cancelled or timetables are extended to take into account slower acceleration times from stations.
As far as I am aware, the metro trains aren't fitted with the sandboxes that their mainline cousins often have.

In this weather and at this time of the year, low rail adhesion is going to happen - no matter how much money is thrown into combating it.
It is an age old problem and isn't going to be solved overnight.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - PH - BQA - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:15 pm)Tom wrote DON'T use the metro if you can help it. You'll be delayed no matter what.

Didn't really want to, having read what I have on here over the past few days, however Google reckons its the quickest way to Haymarket from Monkseaton, and it didn't offer me another suggestion.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:22 pm)mb134 wrote Didn't really want to, having read what I have on here over the past few days, however Google reckons its the quickest way to Haymarket from Monkseaton, and it didn't offer me another suggestion.

You could get the bus into Whitley Bay, then the 308?


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - PH - BQA - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:23 pm)Tom wrote You could get the bus into Whitley Bay, then the 308?

It's 22 minutes quicker to get the Metro, so if I miss one the next one will still get me there before the 308 would, plus I don't know my way around there well at all so I figured getting the one train at one station that is likely to be signposted would be my best option.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:17 pm)Andreos1 wrote Just wanted to try and bring some balance to this.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/metro-bosses-bring-new-24hr-7910120

This is on top of the £100k spent chopping down and reducing foliage earlier this year.

It isn't the only railway to struggle with leaves on the line, but it is one that doesn't benefit from the money or infrastructure that Network Rail can throw at their parts of the system.
Even then, trains are delayed, cancelled or timetables are extended to take into account slower acceleration times from stations.
As far as I am aware, the metro trains aren't fitted with the sandboxes that their mainline cousins often have.

In this weather and at this time of the year, low rail adhesion is going to happen - no matter how much money is thrown into combating it.
It is an age old problem and isn't going to be solved overnight.

This is exactly what should be happening, but isn't. This was suggested on Tyne & Wear Metro's Facebook page too... A revised timetable, to compensate for the slower acceleration times to pull away from stations, should be made. At least then, the timetable could be relied on.

At the moment, we don't have this. My views are unbalanced due to the fact I regularly use the Metro and I am therefore regularly inconvenienced; however, I do thankfully have alternative means of travel, should there be delays. It's suggest that many people do not have alternative means of travel (most likely due to the fact that the ticket they've paid for does not cover other forms of public transport), and this is why customers have taken to the Metro's Social Media pages in their fury at trains being massively delayed or being cancelled/withdrawn altogether. For the past few mornings, I have seen customers complaining that they have been stood at Metro stations for periods of half an hour on mornings with no Metros coming at all... It's just not acceptable.

The solution to the problem is creating a 'low rail adhesion timetable' which can be relied on - meaning that people can plan in advance and know that they'll stand a chance of getting to their destination on time.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Andreos1 - 27 Oct 2014

(27 Oct 2014, 6:32 pm)Dan wrote This is exactly what should be happening, but isn't. This was suggested on Tyne & Wear Metro's Facebook page too... A revised timetable, to compensate for the slower acceleration times to pull away from stations, should be made. At least then, the timetable could be relied on.

At the moment, we don't have this. My views are unbalanced due to the fact I regularly use the Metro and I am therefore regularly inconvenienced; however, I do thankfully have alternative means of travel, should there be delays. It's suggest that many people do not have alternative means of travel (most likely due to the fact that the ticket they've paid for does not cover other forms of public transport), and this is why customers have taken to the Metro's Social Media pages in their fury at trains being massively delayed or being cancelled/withdrawn altogether.

The solution to the problem is creating a 'low rail adhesion timetable' which can be relied on - meaning that people can plan in advance and know that they'll stand a chance of getting to their destination on time.

Low rail adhesion timetables don't solve issues such as leaves blocking signalling circuits though.
You can have the best driver in the world slowing down approaching a station a lot earlier and taking longer to pull away from a station - but if the leaves are blocking the signalling circuits...

There isn't one solution - the fact Network Rail spend millions of pounds of money on several solutions and still can't crack it, tells me that Nexus/DB and their smaller budgets, don't stand much of chance either.

Just to clarify for those who are unsure.
Nexus look after the railway, signalling etc.
DB look after timetables etc.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Michael - 28 Oct 2014

Tyne and Wear Metro
8 mins ·
We are running a frequent service with trains running to all destinations but not to the usual timetable. This is due to low rail adhesion.


Re: RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Dan - 28 Oct 2014

(28 Oct 2014, 2:31 pm)Michael wrote Tyne and Wear Metro
8 mins ·
We are running a frequent service with trains running to all destinations but not to the usual timetable. This is due to low rail adhesion.
'but not to usual timetable' - why can't this revised timetable be published?


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Michael - 28 Oct 2014

(28 Oct 2014, 3:18 pm)Dan wrote 'but not to usual timetable' - why can't this revised timetable be published?

Turns up when it wants - new metro moto


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 28 Oct 2014

We are running a frequent service. Trains are running to all destinations with delays system wide. This is due to low rail adhesion and signalling fault at Jarrow. Please leave extra time for your journey


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Andy - 28 Oct 2014

Was on a busy rush hour metro when we all got chucked off at Jarrow because of late runnings this was metro number 4048+4077


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Michael - 29 Oct 2014

Due to a problem with the power supply at Bede we are unable to use Platform One, until further notice. During this time all trains will depart from Platform Two only.


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 01 Nov 2014

Oh dear -

There are sever delays systemwide due to a technical problems. Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Updated at 22:40, Saturday, 1 November 2014


RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Tom - 01 Nov 2014

Also, earlier There were no trains running between Sunderland and South Hylton in both directions, due to a Network Rail points fault at Sunderland.

AND: There were delays of up to 30 mins between Airport and South Hylton , up to 15 mins between St James and South Shields, this is due to a train being withdrawn from service.


Re: RE: Tyne and Wear Metro - Adrian - 01 Nov 2014

(01 Nov 2014, 11:01 pm)Tom wrote Also, earlier There were no trains running between Sunderland and South Hylton in both directions, due to a Network Rail points fault at Sunderland.

AND: There were delays of up to 30 mins between Airport and South Hylton , up to 15 mins between St James and South Shields, this is due to a train being withdrawn from service.
There have been issues with points at Sunderland since the start of the Season. Wink